Hey Lionel, wishlist for Volume 1 in 2018

I'm a big fan of Lionmaster (can't use anything over O36) so I'd be glad to see a Big Boy or a PRR T1 or a Cab Forward in 2018.  (A cab forward in a fantasy "Daylight" paint scheme would probably look pretty good, at least to me.  Regarding the Big Boy I'd personally rather see 4014 with a coal tender rather than an oil tender.)  And if they want to try something new...Lionmaster GG1?  Lionmaster Erie Triplex?  (With smoke unit in the tender, of course!  I can't believe MTH left that out of their Imperial version.)

I love whistle steam and I'm glad to see it's becoming more and more common on Legacy engines: maybe they could do a Lionmaster with a steam chest smoke unit for the first time.

And I don't think it will seriously happen but so long as we're talking wish lists, I'd like to see some European engines/rolling stock from Lionel.

I have more than enough big steam, I'm on a small steam kick.  Re issue the ten wheeler in Rutland, consolidations, mikados.  Rutland caboose, more milk cars, anything New England.

LionMaster Legacy T1 with Whistle smoke. I'd buy it. 

I'd go for the following items.

Steam locomotives:

• Scale LEGACY N&W A Class 1218 and other road numbers
• Scale UP Challenger Black Oil Fired 3985
• USRA Light Pacifics: L&N 152, R&N 425, A&WP 290, S&A 750, B&O, etc.
• LionChief Plus O-27 Scale K4

 

Auxiliary tenders:

• 2 or 3 N&W in Black
• N&W Red Stripe for J Class (VMTX #250001)
• Milwaukee Road 250002
• Chessie Safety Express
• American Railroads for NKP 759 Gold Spike livery
• Norfolk Southern Tuscan Red
• Black Unlettered
• Union Pacific Joe Jordan 814

 

For the diesel line:

• Norfolk Southern SD70ACe in O-scale
• Amtrak P42DC as new tooling

I suspect you should ask for this in the 2018 Volume 2 / 2019 Volume 1. I would wager 2018 Volume 1 is almost in the books. 

MartyE posted:

I suspect you should ask for this in the 2018 Volume 2 / 2019 Volume 1. I would wager 2018 Volume 1 is almost in the books. 

You are probably right but why ruin it for us

How about some vision line milk cars?

And.......The J3a from the 50th anniversary set with swinging bell and a choice of  standard or PT tender.

This one easily surpasses the 700e in detail and accuracy,  and with legacy sounds and features IMO could be Lionels greatest hudson ever.

-The former Weaver scale ALCo RS3 tooling upgraded with lots of added-on, road-specific details, kinematic (or maybe even fixed!) pilots, and of course Legacy/RailSounds.  Bring on all of the road names, Big L!!

-Legacy scale version of the ALCo C-420 in the Lehigh Valley as-delivered "Yellow Jacket" paint scheme.  Was previously offered with TMCC, but not yet with Legacy.

-Legacy scale GP7's/9's in Jersey Central "toothpaste" and/or blue & yellow (B&O) scheme, Lehigh Valley, DL&W.

-Legacy NW2 switcher in CNJ and Lehigh Valley.

-Legacy Heavy Mike in the CNJ's "Miss Liberty" late-steam paint scheme, with road-specific details.

How about some 18" Milwaukee Road Passenger Cars (Hiawatha Paint) to go along with the fantasy painted Hiawatha S-3 or the E-6 Diesels.

Hopefully, I would like to see a LC+ Pennsylvania GG-1 in a variety of paint schemes.

 

NYC Pacific with a six axle tender 

My recurring vote is for:

1. Lionmaster Legacy Hudson (It's been 14 years!)
2. Lionmaster Legacy Cab-forward
3. More Legacy 4-6-0 models
4. Whistle steam feature in as much as possible.

Also (and this is a true longshot):  maybe Lionel's equity owners group can use some of "their expertise" to improve cost and the related high customer price structures along with production schedules within their supply chain without further impacting quality control.

It would be nice to see an updated Lionmaster steamer every 3 to 5 years.

1) Legacy Niagara 

2) Vision Line Milk Cars

3) 1930 20th Century Limited Set similar to the PRR K4 Set in this most recent catalog with extra cars available

4)Full Scale PRR T1 

I still second with @RickO about the J3A Hudson with/out the PT tender or with/out the smoke deflectors, and John about the Niagara. Otherwise, here we go (not big since everything I need is done, but still):

Steam:

• NYC L3/4 class Mohawk
• Black River & Western 2-8-0 Consolidation No.60

Diesel/Electric:

• B36-7's
• AEM-7's
• NJ Transit GE Arrow III Commuter Cars

I'll play along...

How about a new C&O Streamlined Hudson.  It's been 1995 since we've seen this one.

RickO posted:

How about some vision line milk cars?

And.......The J3a from the 50th anniversary set with swinging bell and a choice of  standard or PT tender.

This one easily surpasses the 700e in detail and accuracy,  and with legacy sounds and features IMO could be Lionels greatest hudson ever.

That would make a killer VisionLine set offering too (i.e., loco with sound cars).

David

One last hurrah for the Postwar and Prewar Celebration Series?

A Legacy-LionChief/LionChief + converter so Legacy/TMCC users can use their Cab-1/Cab-2 remotes to control the new product lines?

A 6464 Series of boxcars budget priced to compete with Menard's offerings? Perhaps sold in sets of 3 or 4 as they were done many years ago.  Or even sub-contracted to Menard's with Lionel branding?

Landsteiner posted:

One last hurrah for the Postwar and Prewar Celebration Series?

 

+1 on this. The Postwar FA Alco set (green passenger cars) was a highlight of Volume 1 for me and was hoping that it signaled a return to issuing trains in the CC or PWC line. Maybe we’ll see something in 2018V1? C’mon Lionel!

I applaud Lionel's scale line of trains. The catalog is again filled with many highly detailed, sophisticated items for big-radius layouts. I have many of these Legacy trains myself. But this market does not represent everyone.

There are many of us with tighter curves who also love traditional and postwar inspired products. It's not a dying market. I'm 46, not a dinosaur. Let's bring back Pullmor open frame AC motors. Bring back Magne-Traction. Bring back the smell of ozone and grinding motors.

I realize I'm being overly optimistic. Current Lionel management hasn't shown much interest in cataloging these types of products. In fact, with the dissolution of the archives, they probably don't know what a Pullmore looks like anymore...

GregR posted:

 

There are many of us with tighter curves who also love traditional and postwar inspired products. It's not a dying market. I'm 46, not a dinosaur. Let's bring back Pullmor open frame AC motors. Bring back Magne-Traction. Bring back the smell of ozone and grinding motors.

I realize I'm being overly optimistic. Current Lionel management hasn't shown much interest in cataloging these types of products. In fact, with the dissolution of the archives, they probably don't know what a Pullmore looks like anymore...

Isn't that what LionChief + is all about?  The upcoming Berkshire is right out of the PW tooling.  Sure it doesn't have the PM motor but still a nice looking engine with some bonus features.

superwarp1 posted:

I have more than enough big steam, I'm on a small steam kick.  Re issue the ten wheeler in Rutland, consolidations, mikados.  Rutland caboose, more milk cars, anything New England.

I asked Lionel last fall for a Rutland caboose of the proper era for the 2-6-0, and they told me that they didn't have that tooling, so I should go ask MTH. I was a little surprised, since I know they made that style caboose in the 80's and in gold around 2000. There was even one sitting two tables away from them...

CarGuyZM10 posted:

I asked Lionel last fall for a Rutland caboose of the proper era for the 2-6-0, and they told me that they didn't have that tooling, so I should go ask MTH. I was a little surprised, since I know they made that style caboose in the 80's and in gold around 2000. There was even one sitting two tables away from them...

A few items I asked for was met with "We don't know if the tooling exists still".  I specifically asked about the Hobo series of accessories.  I'm not sure what happened to all the tooling but apparently it seems some of it has vanished.  Hopefully they'll re-invest for some new tooling for some of these items.

I'd like to see the following:

-Rutland Caboose (Route of the Whippet)

-2-8-0 Camelback (LNE, LV, RDG, CNJ, DLW, etc)

-Reading coaches (prefer clerestory, but would take round roof) in the CORRECT two-tone green

-Strasburg 90

-An SW switcher (I would love to see it in Allentown and Auburn, but many railroads had these)

-More small steam

MartyE posted:

GregR posted:

 

There are many of us with tighter curves who also love traditional and postwar inspired products. It's not a dying market. I'm 46, not a dinosaur. Let's bring back Pullmor open frame AC motors. Bring back Magne-Traction. Bring back the smell of ozone and grinding motors.

I realize I'm being overly optimistic. Current Lionel management hasn't shown much interest in cataloging these types of products. In fact, with the dissolution of the archives, they probably don't know what a Pullmore looks like anymore...

Isn't that what LionChief + is all about?  The upcoming Berkshire is right out of the PW tooling.  Sure it doesn't have the PM motor but still a nice looking engine with some bonus features.

Thanks Marty. I agree it's a nice loco.

I'm hopelessly conflicted in my tastes which are all over the place. I have walls full of postwar equipment & remakes, and enjoy the experience of running them, accepting them for what they are - nice collectible toys. On the other hand, I also have walls full of modern equipment including Legacy steam locos. I also enjoy running them for a very different experience where I expect all the features and realism.

Lionchief+ steam power is in a "no man's land" for me. It lacks the characteristics to give it a "postwar" experience, and lacks the realism of the "Legacy" experience.

I'll just hang onto my 726 conventional classic. It has a nice Pullmor motor, and great sounding whistle / bell from the RSL card, without the fake half-chuff rate of the Lionchief+. And just for kicks, I fit a neodymium magnet into the thing so it could practically drive upside down on tubular track.

 

The scale lover side of me wants to see a Lionel F7 or F3 set in early VIA Rail Canada livery (blue, yellow, black). Why hasn't anyone tackled this one yet? (except for Vistadome Scott, who painted up a beautiful example)

 

Unfortunately I don't see Pulmors or the PWC coming back in any form other than LC or LC+.  I have the Century Club 1 Berk and love it so I do know where you are coming from.

Maybe Lionel can update the code for 4 chuffs per rev for LC+.  Seems like that should be an easy fix.

Still waiting for a Mi-jack crane!!  With all the new doublestacks we need a way to load or unload the containers..  Thanx  LOCOMOTION

"Why hasn't anyone tackled this one yet?"

While your question is likely rhetorical, I'm wondering if it's the size of the Canadian market vs. the USA market (<10% the size in population).  This population difference may be reduced to an even smaller  market size due to tax and exchange rate issues that worsen the market size disadvantage which occurs with some or most Canadian road names.  Same reason they haven't followed MTH into the European market, I'd venture a guess too.  Lionel hasn't been interested in runs of a hundred or two products.

Landsteiner posted:

"Why hasn't anyone tackled this one yet?"

While your question is likely rhetorical, I'm wondering if it's the size of the Canadian market vs. the USA market (<10% the size in population).  This population difference may be reduced to an even smaller  market size due to tax and exchange rate issues that worsen the market size disadvantage which occurs with some or most Canadian road names.  Same reason they haven't followed MTH into the European market, I'd venture a guess too.  Lionel hasn't been interested in runs of a hundred or two products.

I don't know whether it's market size. Millions of people have seen and travelled on these VIA trains over thousands of miles of track. MTH has always tackled a wide variety of road names including many different VIA Rail paint schemes over the years. Seeing Lionel's latest catalog with roads like "RJ Corman", or "Ohio Central", might suggest that Lionel is also finally willing to expand into more obscure road names. So, it may not that unrealistic in the future. When the importers hit the bottom of the road name barrel, it will be a good thing for those of us who like variety and aren't your everyday PRR, NYC or UP fan. How about this one, the Polar Bear Express?

My wish for Lionel 2018 is simple....trains that are reasonably priced and won't fall apart out of the box...return to basics....

das boot posted:

Hopefully, I would like to see a LC+ Pennsylvania GG-1 in a variety of paint schemes.

 

YES. 

My list in addition to the above:

1. LC+ NW Class J 611 
2. LC+ Conrail anything besides just the SD60M - GP7, GP20, GP38(-2), GP40(-2), SD40, SD45, SD70MAC, NW-2
3. LC+ Norfolk Southern besides just the SD60M - GP7, GP20, GP38(-2), GP40(-2), SD40, SD45, SD70MAC, NW-2
4. More Conrail freight cars
5. LC+ Amtrak ACS-64
6. LionScale Amfleet

 

That'd hold me over a few years.

Tim said he liked the cab forward.  That's my favorite big engine. My layout won't handle one but man are they nice.  If you ever get to Sacramento, go to the rail museum.  You can get into the cab of one of 'em.  To see it really is impressive just how big those were.

A couple or so movie locomotives: particularly, AWVR #1206 and #777

Since Lionel is making what appears to be an awesome American Freedom Train, how

about an Ode to the Ringling Bros. Circus Train.  A Blue or Red Unit train would be great.

How about it Lionel?  

2 Rail High Rail or S scale.

Take your pick. Most people I know in the hobby don't like 3R. Especially the younger ones.

Continue making the ZW transformers.

Maybe design a new smaller ZW around 200 watts.

SP F7A and B power only units.

SP and ATSF steam/diesel in non fantasy colors.

My Milwaukee Road beer Line NEEDS a Milwaukee Road transfer caboose.

I have lots of suggestions, of which I know will not be made. So I will make one suggestion: Trains that work perfectly and dont fall apart right out of the box. 

Maxrailroad posted:

I have lots of suggestions, of which I know will not be made. So I will make one suggestion: Trains that work perfectly and dont fall apart right out of the box. 

My Class A came back for the 7th time and the tender trucks were detached 

Legacy NYC  Niagara 

Legacy NYC Dreyfus Hudson

They have the tooling for these 

Alex 

 

 

Alex M posted:

Legacy NYC  Niagara 

Legacy NYC Dreyfus Hudson

They have the tooling for these 

Alex 

 

 

I completely agree with Alex.

I would also like to see some smaller steam(they have been broadening the horizon). I think if they could get the toolings done for American 4-4-0's scale, and in semi-scale(of some sort) it would be a good market. With the introduction of the spark arrestor in the Heisler, it really peaked my interest in hoping that some of the late 1900's engines with them would soon come out of the woodwork. How cool would it be to have wood/coal/oil options on those?

A lot of great ideas coming from everyone, I can wait for my 4-4-0, so put that on the back burner Lionel and see what else is a great choice to start with and get back to me on the 4-4-0.

Agree, VL or at least Legacy J3a would be nice!

And since I am wishing......

Legacy Tank Engines

I assume Lionel has the old K-line tooling?

 

How about an LIRR scale alco RS3, MP54 electric or S2 switch engine in the 1960's colors--they did the alco C420 a few years ago--

SDIV Tim posted:

Go ahead and add what you want for your wishlist, hopefully we can get some interesting things in Volume 1 in 2018.

No new Lionmaster stuff in 2017 after 2 years with the challenger and Class A. Most likely we might see another steamer or 2 maybe they devote a lot of the Catalog to making a 4014 with an Oil Tender to look like the finished prototype in the near future. We haven't seen a Big Boy or a T-1 in 7+ years. But we haven't seen the NYC Hudson again after it was produced a long time ago and the SD90s. I'm right now looking forward to a Lionmaster Cab Forward in the future.

For other stuff, Its hard to find certain Legacy Steamers now even on the 2nd hand market. Down the road I would like to get Santa Fe 3751 again. 

I just got two things on my list:

A Lionmaster Cab Foward

A Santa Fe 3751

Now I have a prediction for the next VL product. The next VL loco will be a NW Class A. Just because you haven't seen a Scale Class A done by Lionel since 1999-2003 time frame. But that may not be the only next VL loco, the reissue of the Challengers UP and Clinchfield)

Also can we have them run the loco on a test track before releasing it so it can save us the stress of packing it back up and sending it off? A lot of engines have been sent back to them and if they test these when they get to the states maybe they can trouble shoot the problems.

Just some thoughts, what would you guys like to see in the next Catalog?

 

I think the issue with Lionmaster, is that Lionel made it really clear on its last run of them (in the Notch 6 podcast) that they would see how sales were and decide on Lionmaster's fate. Well all the guys who always say they want Lionmaster did not buy them.  I bought 2 (UP and Rio Grande) and they are excellent runners, fantastic smokers and look awesome.  But sales on that run seemed poor (based on talking to my hobby shop's pre-orders and store sales).  Everyone who kept saying they want them never seemed to open their wallets.  So not sure we will see them anytime soon.  

 

wmcwood posted:

And since I am wishing......

Legacy Tank Engines

I assume Lionel has the old K-line tooling?

A reissue of the old K-Line tooled 4-6-6 suburban tank or it's Hudson predecessor with Legacy would be sweet especially since it was designed to run 0-31 min curves.  However, the access to the tooling for both of these superb K-Line models has been a tight lipped affair.  Several years ago when Lionel announced they obtained use of the K/L Berks, Mikado, A5 and 2-truck Shay tooling for Legacy offerings, I pestered Mike R at several York meets about the 4-6-6, but each time Mike said L did not have or plans to use what remains the last of the scale steam K-Line tooling. 

Possibly Bachmann/Williams's parent Co., Kader, still has the tooling for both the Sub-tank and Hudson and are either demanding a high price for its use or are holding on to it for possible future use if Bachmann/Williams slowly continue to expand their O gauge product line.  The K-L 4-6-6 or Hudson would certainly be a great premier model to offer by anyone.

SandJam posted:

I think the issue with Lionmaster, is that Lionel made it really clear on its last run of them (in the Notch 6 podcast) that they would see how sales were and decide on Lionmaster's fate. Well all the guys who always say they want Lionmaster did not buy them.  I bought 2 (UP and Rio Grande) and they are excellent runners, fantastic smokers and look awesome.  But sales on that run seemed poor (based on talking to my hobby shop's pre-orders and store sales).  Everyone who kept saying they want them never seemed to open their wallets.  So not sure we will see them anytime soon.  

 

That is a very valid and important point.  Many times we see here if they make "XYZ" I'd buy it no matter what.  Well did you?  I always make it a point of buying what I've asked for if it gets made.  I've asked for a scale GG-1 with Legacy and Lionel produced a VL so I put my money where my mouth was and pulled the trigger.  Years ago in the PWC series I asked for a Southern F3 ABA, they made it, I bought it.  I have bugged MTH for more Lionel Celebration cars and caboose for the tinplate line and have those on order.

Now I have asked for another Scale Polar Express run.  The new catalog has it...I'm getting it. 

I think it's a very important point that no matter who the manufacturer / importer is when we all clamor for an item and then it gets made we need to put our $$ where our mouth is.

 I would like to see more Weaver and Lionel wood chip hoppers, the Weaver TOFC cars brought back along with the Weaver tank cars. I would like to see a scale open auto carrier brought out.....................Paul

I'll second superwarp's vote for anything New England.  I would personally spring for a Boston and Maine Ten Wheeler, and/or a Maine Central F3 or E7.

GregR posted:

I applaud Lionel's scale line of trains. The catalog is again filled with many highly detailed, sophisticated items for big-radius layouts. I have many of these Legacy trains myself. But this market does not represent everyone.

There are many of us with tighter curves who also love traditional and postwar inspired products. It's not a dying market. I'm 46, not a dinosaur. Let's bring back Pullmor open frame AC motors. Bring back Magne-Traction. Bring back the smell of ozone and grinding motors.

I realize I'm being overly optimistic. Current Lionel management hasn't shown much interest in cataloging these types of products. In fact, with the dissolution of the archives, they probably don't know what a Pullmore looks like anymore...

Along those lines, now that Lionel has taken a good step in the Vol. 2 catalogue towards smaller Legacy steam and diesel that will run on tighter radius tracks (down to O-31) for those with smaller layouts, how about some smaller passenger cars/sets, maybe even with sound, to go with the new engines ?  

SandJam posted:

SDIV Tim posted:

Go ahead and add what you want for your wishlist, hopefully we can get some interesting things in Volume 1 in 2018.

No new Lionmaster stuff in 2017 after 2 years with the challenger and Class A. Most likely we might see another steamer or 2 maybe they devote a lot of the Catalog to making a 4014 with an Oil Tender to look like the finished prototype in the near future. We haven't seen a Big Boy or a T-1 in 7+ years. But we haven't seen the NYC Hudson again after it was produced a long time ago and the SD90s. I'm right now looking forward to a Lionmaster Cab Forward in the future.

For other stuff, Its hard to find certain Legacy Steamers now even on the 2nd hand market. Down the road I would like to get Santa Fe 3751 again. 

I just got two things on my list:

A Lionmaster Cab Foward

A Santa Fe 3751

Now I have a prediction for the next VL product. The next VL loco will be a NW Class A. Just because you haven't seen a Scale Class A done by Lionel since 1999-2003 time frame. But that may not be the only next VL loco, the reissue of the Challengers UP and Clinchfield)

Also can we have them run the loco on a test track before releasing it so it can save us the stress of packing it back up and sending it off? A lot of engines have been sent back to them and if they test these when they get to the states maybe they can trouble shoot the problems.

Just some thoughts, what would you guys like to see in the next Catalog?

 

I think the issue with Lionmaster, is that Lionel made it really clear on its last run of them (in the Notch 6 podcast) that they would see how sales were and decide on Lionmaster's fate. Well all the guys who always say they want Lionmaster did not buy them.  I bought 2 (UP and Rio Grande) and they are excellent runners, fantastic smokers and look awesome.  But sales on that run seemed poor (based on talking to my hobby shop's pre-orders and store sales).  Everyone who kept saying they want them never seemed to open their wallets.  So not sure we will see them anytime soon.  

 

The reason why I bought my Challenger was because of the video with your DRG Challenger. I bought the Class A because of the Challenger.

Lionel needs to eliminate the BTO probably be a few years before Lionmaster will return or maybe we have seen the end of it

PRR M1b, maybe #6755 like the one in Strasburg.  My favorite engine.

Santa Fe ES44AC's...............

Regards, 

Swafford

 

 

This one is waaaaay out there, but it is super cool. The prototype just hit the rails last year.

MOW is so under represented.

J3a New York Central Hudson with standard tender - Scale and Lionmaster

Lionmaster Big Boy

Lionmaster FEF

Frisco 1522 and sisters

 

Z8 Challenger Northern Pacific; Great Northern (fantasy); and Spokane, Portland and Seattle

 

B&O SD70ACe..............

https://xzarno.deviantart.com/

 

 

 

 

You reissued the SD60M. How about you reissue the 8-40B/C regular cab?

as usual 

MK5000C

SDP40F

SD70ACET4

and a Pleiadian Beam ship accessory 

 its just something awesome that the proto-guys will dislike and i don't care 

worst comes to worst i'll make one myself

Larry Mullen posted:

PRR M1b, maybe #6755 like the one in Strasburg.  My favorite engine.

They did #6755 as an M1a a few years back, but it would be very interesting to see them do an M1b. I doubt they will, but it is definitely something that they should consider. I think we had had a discussion last year talking about K4's that many want to see the K5's(Pacific). I do believe someone had said one of the manufactures(maybe 3rdRail) had done some time back. It would be great if they(any of them) made any of these great ideas.

SDIV Tim posted:

Go ahead and add what you want for your wishlist, hopefully we can get some interesting things in Volume 1 in 2018.

No new Lionmaster stuff in 2017 after 2 years with the challenger and Class A. Most likely we might see another steamer or 2 maybe they devote a lot of the Catalog to making a 4014 with an Oil Tender to look like the finished prototype in the near future. We haven't seen a Big Boy or a T-1 in 7+ years. But we haven't seen the NYC Hudson again after it was produced a long time ago and the SD90s. I'm right now looking forward to a Lionmaster Cab Forward in the future.

For other stuff, Its hard to find certain Legacy Steamers now even on the 2nd hand market. Down the road I would like to get Santa Fe 3751 again. 

I just got two things on my list:

A Lionmaster Cab Foward

A Santa Fe 3751

Now I have a prediction for the next VL product. The next VL loco will be a NW Class A. Just because you haven't seen a Scale Class A done by Lionel since 1999-2003 time frame. But that may not be the only next VL loco, the reissue of the Challengers UP and Clinchfield)

Also can we have them run the loco on a test track before releasing it so it can save us the stress of packing it back up and sending it off? A lot of engines have been sent back to them and if they test these when they get to the states maybe they can trouble shoot the problems.

Just some thoughts, what would you guys like to see in the next Catalog?

 

You know I would bet that the 2018 catalog is already set to go. I would bet that a actual catalog for any given period is in final stages any where from 6 months to 9 months in advance. Once you do make your so cal final prep it still needs to be approved which take time to research all is able to be produced ( if they get enough orders ( which to me is another joke ) If you want to do input for a catalog I would bet you need to be looking at least a year if not 2 years in advance. 

You want a realistic idea how far in advance you need to think, Ask Mark from Menards how far in advance do they start the process to develop a new item, to the time they actually have it ready for market. Right now I bet still at least 3 months but there just reusing old they have already used but with a different paint scheme.  To go from scratch to finish product I bet it's well over 6 months and then you need to produce a catalog from that.

RickO posted:

How about some vision line milk cars?

And.......The J3a from the 50th anniversary set with swinging bell and a choice of  standard or PT tender.

This one easily surpasses the 700e in detail and accuracy,  and with legacy sounds and features IMO could be Lionels greatest hudson ever.

I have been saving for this locomotive in Vision Line or at least Legacy!  I have the 50th Anniversary Set with #5433 and the separate  sale J3a Hudson #5444. They are the nicest looking Hudsons Lionel ever made. Now we need a Legacy version.

 

I'd like to see an Acela that's reliable, i.e., no infra-red couplers/tethers (https://www.lionelsupport.com/...ents/73-1714-251.pdf).

I'd buy one of the originals ... and the extra cars ... but I have a few "ess curves" on my layout.  These seem to be deal-breakers.  Even though they're O72 ess curves, I've been spooked by much of what I've read concerning the Acela...

Steven J. Serenska

 

2018 Vol. 1 is already set, better change your wishes for Vol.2. 

 

I hope there is more Alien / Area 51 stuff next year and why does it always have to be weird green dudes 

how about throwing in some Nordic Aliens or Asket's beam ship of the DAL Universe from the stories of Billy Meier that lights up and makes sounds 

now THAT would be cool

MartyE posted:

SandJam posted:

I think the issue with Lionmaster, is that Lionel made it really clear on its last run of them (in the Notch 6 podcast) that they would see how sales were and decide on Lionmaster's fate. Well all the guys who always say they want Lionmaster did not buy them.  I bought 2 (UP and Rio Grande) and they are excellent runners, fantastic smokers and look awesome.  But sales on that run seemed poor (based on talking to my hobby shop's pre-orders and store sales).  Everyone who kept saying they want them never seemed to open their wallets.  So not sure we will see them anytime soon.  

 

That is a very valid and important point.  Many times we see here if they make "XYZ" I'd buy it no matter what.  Well did you?  I always make it a point of buying what I've asked for if it gets made.  I've asked for a scale GG-1 with Legacy and Lionel produced a VL so I put my money where my mouth was and pulled the trigger.  Years ago in the PWC series I asked for a Southern F3 ABA, they made it, I bought it.  I have bugged MTH for more Lionel Celebration cars and caboose for the tinplate line and have those on order.

Now I have asked for another Scale Polar Express run.  The new catalog has it...I'm getting it. 

I think it's a very important point that no matter who the manufacturer / importer is when we all clamor for an item and then it gets made we need to put our $$ where our mouth is.

I ordered a scale Polar Express set myself, missed out on the first one. Wife told me she would help me pay for it.

PRR I1 2-10-0 or a PRR L1 2-8-2

Lionel can still have the people in China make the Pullman-Standard PS-2 2-bay covered hoppers with the wide support channels on each end, according to the Volume 2 catalog. The Elgin, Joliet & Eastern and the Delaware & Hudson had that specific PS-2 2-Bay covered hopper. They need to finally have the employees in China produce the EJ&E and D&H PS-2 2-Bay covered hoppers. 

 

 

 

Andrew

 

 

 

Bachmann has all of the old K-Line tooling. 

falconservice posted:

Bachmann has all of the old K-Line tooling. 

Then how did Lionel produce a B&A Berkshire a few years back?

The 86' Hi-Cube boxcars have to come back in new schemes in 2018.

I am looking forward to Detroit, Toledo & Ironton and Detroit & Toledo Shoreline.

 

Andrew

 

If Lionel got any K-Line tooling, then they must be very selective in the use of it. 

The excellent K-Line by Lionel O scale SD70MAC/SD75M/SD75I tooling that Lionel paid to have produced or finished has not been used by anyone since the one run. 

Andrew

I thing it might be wise for Lionel NOT to have anything new for next year, fix various problems, and get product from other years on the water.  Then come back with a super 2019 cat.

GregR posted:

The scale lover side of me wants to see a Lionel F7 or F3 set in early VIA Rail Canada livery (blue, yellow, black). Why hasn't anyone tackled this one yet? (except for Vistadome Scott, who painted up a beautiful example)

 

There was a Canadian version of the FA which ended up on VIA as second hand power.  I am surprised Lionel has not made a VIA set in O-27 using the FA and FB diesels, and the older 2400 passenger car molds in blue and yellow.

falconservice posted:

The 86' Hi-Cube boxcars have to come back in new schemes in 2018.

I am looking forward to Detroit, Toledo & Ironton and Detroit & Toledo Shoreline.

 

Andrew

 

Lionel , does not have these . The tooling they have is P-S , but of course a spray job over what ever they got will satisfy many .

A legacy alco c-420 re-issue with Long Island RR high hoods. Blue wave and red wave and a matching caboose! 

Keystone posted:

wmcwood posted:

And since I am wishing......

Legacy Tank Engines

I assume Lionel has the old K-line tooling?

A reissue of the old K-Line tooled 4-6-6 suburban tank or it's Hudson predecessor with Legacy would be sweet especially since it was designed to run 0-31 min curves.  However, the access to the tooling for both of these superb K-Line models has been a tight lipped affair.  Several years ago when Lionel announced they obtained use of the K/L Berks, Mikado, A5 and 2-truck Shay tooling for Legacy offerings, I pestered Mike R at several York meets about the 4-6-6, but each time Mike said L did not have or plans to use what remains the last of the scale steam K-Line tooling. 

Possibly Bachmann/Williams's parent Co., Kader, still has the tooling for both the Sub-tank and Hudson and are either demanding a high price for its use or are holding on to it for possible future use if Bachmann/Williams slowly continue to expand their O gauge product line.  The K-L 4-6-6 or Hudson would certainly be a great premier model to offer by anyone.

Did K-Line make a 4-6-4T? Or only the 4-6-6T?

superwarp1 posted:

falconservice posted:

Bachmann has all of the old K-Line tooling. 

Then how did Lionel produce a B&A Berkshire a few years back?

Not to mention the other k line tooled legacy locos Lionel has offered:

Light Mike

K4

Shay

Prr b6

Conventional 0-4-0

(I may have missed one)

And...... if you look closely at the driver detail on the VL Hudson. You'll notice they used the k line j1e tooling for the drivers. And possibly the cab and/or backhead and even some of the piping detail.

Maybe the "hallowed" k line Hudson will reappear with legacy one day.

Fastrack Turntable please

 

Would love Lionel to do the 4-6-6T. If they could fit whistle steam in it that would be a huge plus. I would want an undecorated version so I could decal it for Brooklyn Eastern District Terminal. BEDT

Lionel got the K-line Steam, so did Bachmann get every K-line diesel, I am talking about the diesels.

Why not give LEGACY Milwaukee Road Hiawathas a go?

Along with a 21" 1935 Hiawatha Passenger consist to go with them.  I know they had airhorns, but my question is: Did they use steam whistles, too?

i really wanna see the ready to run catalog i really don't care about the signature stuff except the lionchief stuff  i will probably never afford the high end stuff anyway

i would love to see another Area 51 set with a GP38 this time

all the sets i'm listing i want them to have a GP38 or u-boat

NERF elite freight set with a woodchip hopper carrying NERF darts and a NERF cannon car

SHARKNADO freight set with figures of the main characters you can attach to the roof of the GP38

 

I would love to see more PRR steam. H10's, L1s, G5's... I shouldn't complain though. Weaver and 3rd Rail already made excellent models of these. However I wish Lionel would stop putting their markings "Built by Lionel" on some of their higher end rolling stock. Lionel made a great decision in putting this lettering under their rolling stock and cabeese in sets such as the M1a/b coal train set. I'm not sure if they have continued in doing this but I have scale milk cars with the "Built by Lionel" markings on it. Of course a few dabs of paint and these can be taken off. 

As a collector who operates from both sides of the spectrum, (postwar, prewar, MPC and modern) I like to keep the era's separate. At least when it comes to scale items.

Viewliners.      Sleepers, Diner, Baggage

GregR posted:

There are many of us with tighter curves who also love traditional and postwar inspired products. It's not a dying market. I'm 46, not a dinosaur. Let's bring back Pullmor open frame AC motors. Bring back Magne-Traction. Bring back the smell of ozone and grinding motors.

Gotta +1 from me, and I'm much younger than you! Just make sure not to convert standard measurements to metric...

Heck, I'd be game if they would just make the parts and you build your own...

Maybe even a newly tooled 21" Business car with 4-wheel & 6-wheel trucks specific to the roadname.

Roadnames:

• Norfolk Southern
• Union Pacific
• Milwaukee Road
• Conrail
• Pennsylvania
• CSX

Nick12DMC posted:

Fastrack Turntable please

 

Nick, Our turntables already work with Fastrack and we ship to Europe

Peter Araujo posted:

Why not give LEGACY Milwaukee Road Hiawathas a go?

Along with a 21" 1935 Hiawatha Passenger consist to go with them.  I know they had airhorns, but my question is: Did they use steam whistles, too?

I'm not certain, but I suspect Lionel doesn't have the tooling for the 2007 model anymore. I believe it was one of the models done by Sanda Kan before Kader (Bachmann's parent company) took over and booted a lot of manufacturing partners (Lionel and Atlas included) out the door. Some of the design rights and tooling were retained by Sanda Kan if they weren't designed by a manufacturing partner. @Dave Olson might know for certain.

I hope to see (and will order immediately) another Lionmaster Cab Forward offered. I missed the ones in the past and hope to have by my 70th birthday (in 2 1/2 years).

turntable.  manual operation, less than $99

How about some Golden Spike PRR B60 baggage cars?

The 1980's "Safety Yellow" and white Chicago & North Western auto rack on an 89' Trailer Train flat car in pale yellow. . 

Andrew

Falcon Service

O scale  Grand Trunk Western bi-level auto rack painted all blue on the panels. Trailer Train graphics on the TTGX  89' flat car. 

 

Andrew

L&N auto rack on TTGX TRAILER TRAIN 89' flat car. 

SCL auto rack on TTGX TRAILER TRAIN 89' flat car. 

 

Andrew

I heard that there will be only one catalog coming out this coming year. Anyone else heard that?

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

I heard that there will be only one catalog coming out this coming year. Anyone else heard that?

No, but it might be interesting to know why?

SDIV Tim posted:

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

I heard that there will be only one catalog coming out this coming year. Anyone else heard that?

No, but it might be interesting to know why?

so it will all be one giant book next year with like 500 pages?

paigetrain posted:

SDIV Tim posted:

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:

I heard that there will be only one catalog coming out this coming year. Anyone else heard that?

No, but it might be interesting to know why?

so it will all be one giant book next year with like 500 pages?

I don't know for sure, but that was what the daughter of my local dealer said(and she knows her stuff just like her dad). I guess we'll just have to wait and see if there is some announcement about it.