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Originally Posted by C W Burfle:

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PayPal's Terms of Use are changing soon and they basically are making users agree to telemarketing phone calls


 

I make it a policy to NEVER do business with any outfit that initiates a call to me. Same with any sort of door to door sales.

 

Exactly right - I couldn't agree more.

 

To those who are concerned about PayPal and telemarketing, I have one word: Nomorobo.  Google it.  (Thanks to Gunrunner John for posting it previously).  This system effectively blocks robocalls, but allows medical office and emergency ones through.  It's free, works great, and is easy to sign up for.  If I can do it, anybody can.  For the calls from a real person, I just don't answer if I don't recognize the caller I.D.  If it's important, they'll leave a message.

My question generated more interest than I expected.

For Sale posts on Craigslist expire after 7 days I think in the major metro areas of US. However, your post is still in your account and you can renew.

Maybe a similar system could work here and less time would be spent "gaming" the system to get to the top of the list.

If something doesn't sell then the seller will usually lower the price and as was explained, this can be done within the original post.  However, who will know that the price was lowered if your ad now is on the 4th page, 88 items from the top of the list?

It seems to me that a genuine and significant change in the price ought to warrant being re-posted without being criticized for "purposefully trying to game the system and go to the top of the list."

Originally Posted by C W Burfle:

quote:
PayPal's Terms of Use are changing soon and they basically are making users agree to telemarketing phone calls


 

I make it a policy to NEVER do business with any outfit that initiates a call to me. Same with any sort of door to door sales.

 

How could I have forgotten this....another one of my rules. Never do it via phone. Don't ask me to call you. It won't happen. I do everything via email unless I personally know you. With email, I have a paper trail, etc to follow in case needed. If you want the item bad enough, you'll email or follow whatever my ad says, unlike the guy that sent me an email berating me for not conducting the sale "his way". I told him to take a hike and sold the item to someone else. 

After reviewing the service terms for Pay pal, I can't see anything that bothers me about the policy on phone calls.  I get plenty of calls I don't want with no one telling me to expect them.  Completing surveys for companies I do business with doesn't bother me when I have the time, and any company that you owe money to I think is within their rights to try to call you.  Nothing at all here that I see as any kind of deal breaker.  The one that a lot more folks should be paying attention to her is section 4.6 in the original terms, and now 4.5 in the new version:  

 

"4.6 No Surcharges. You agree that you will not impose a surcharge or any other fee for accepting PayPal as a payment method. You may charge a handling fee in connection with the sale of goods or services as long as the handling fee does not operate as a surcharge and is not higher than the handling fee you charge for non-PayPal transactions."

 

The text is the same in the new version.  Basically, as expected, asking buyers to pay a higher charge for using pay pal is NOT an acceptable business practice, and those that do this should, instead, choose not to accept pay pal at all.  

 

As a buyer, I am willing to pay a slightly higher price for the protection offered by the service, when it comes to buying and selling with folks I will not be meeting face to face, and will not be getting hands on with the offered product.  Sort of why it was invented in the first place.  

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