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Elliot, if you’re up to it, update us on how you’re doing.

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@Jim R. posted:

Elliot, if you’re up to it, update us on how you’re doing.

For forum members, please remember that you can visit a member’s profile page, as Mark Boyce did above, to get a sense of how active he or she has been recently.

Also, by using them “at” sign followed by the member user name, you can send them a notification about a thread such as this one. That’s better than asking other members to guess what’s up.


Jim has a firm grasp of how the forum works, and how to get a person's attention.

As for the subject of this topic, I have not set foot in the train room in well over a year. All train related activities have stopped. The main reason for this is my health. The neuropathy in my hands is so severe, I have trouble with a knife and fork, let alone modeling tools. My other problem is my knees. I injured the left one about three years ago, when I tripped over an electrical cord, and landed on the bare concrete. The following year, I did the right one, when I did a toe plant into the floor while putting away groceries.

As if all of that wasn't enough, fourteen weeks ago, I fell again. This time was the worst. I ended up with a compound fracture of both the right tibia and fibula. That's when the bone sticks out through the skin. For football fans, think Dak Prescott, or if you're old school, Joe Theismann.

There was a silver lining to having neuropathy in my legs, I heard the bones snap, but never felt any pain. The ambulance crew, sheriff's deputies, and ER staff, couldn't believe it. The first day in the hospital, I took a couple rounds of Tylenol, but that was it.

After a couple nights in the hospital, they shipped me off to rehab for two and a half weeks. I was lucky to have dodged Covid while I was there. They started getting cases just after I went home.

We had to rent a ramp, so I could get in the house in my wheel chair. One day, about five weeks  ago, it snowed. That was the day I relearned how to get up the steps in the garage.  I'm getting around pretty well now, but I still have to wear a boot 24/7. I'm  pretty sure the bones are healed. The problem is the skin, that's still a mess. Of course I can't drive, because it's my right leg.

I haven't been through a metal detector since I did this, but I'm curious if all this metal would set it off, cause there is a bunch of it, rods and plates and pins and screws.

Well, there you have it, straight from the horse's mouth. No more guessing required.

Without anything train related to talk about, I don't plan to hang out here anymore. It has been a difficult decision to give it up, but I just can't do it anymore. Sorry guys, it was fun while it lasted.


Elliott if you are reading this,  know I truly help your health improves.  I have not had the misfortune of a compound fracture,  but I have previously royally damaged my lower right leg and ankle.

I didn't feel much either, because I was young and stupid,  but mostly because I was drunk of my rear end.  It was 20 years ago but I still have some interesting scars myself.   

Also, my fibula still has a plate and about 10 screws in it.  To answer your question on metal detectors,  the answer is "it depends."  I had the same question when I was healing.  At the time I regularly attended meetings at the county courthouse where I lived.  It turns out that metal detectors have adjustable intensity and this place had a reputation for operating theirs at maximum settings.   The walk through didn't set it off and neither have multiple airport detectors since.  But when they ran the hand held machine right over the scars it did go off.  In my case the scars are pretty self explanatory.   

I hope you feel well mentally.   I know neuropathy is no joke.  My father started losing function in has hands and arms towards the end of his life, however he was such a private person he waited too long to seek help.  It turns out he had a condition that may have been treatable.   Based on what you've posted before I don't believe this is happening with you,  it's just a little cathartic for me to type it out.   

If you change your mind, your wit and experience will always be welcome here.  Take care my friend.   I wish all the best to you and your family.

John Z

Add me to the list of well wishers Elliot.

I joined the forum about 4 years ago and quickly found your thread and was hooked. Reading your monthly updates was inspiring and educational as well. The first time I saw the giant helix you built, my jaw hit the floor. Your run up to the TCA (?), NMRA (?), convention was a herculean task that most of us would not have taken on. I think we all have gained a tremendous amount of knowledge from watching your work and thanks again for so generously sharing it with all of us.

So sorry to hear about your recent and continued health problems and may you recover as best as possible and enjoy time with your family and friends. Please feel free to stop by just to say Hi anytime.


PS- as a long time Giants fan, I can still see that tackle LT put on Theisman and the resulting injury that followed. OUCH!

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Elliot, I am sorry to hear things are not going like we all with they were. As I posted on the other thread IMOP you are one of the Modern day Masters in this hobby! I have learned so much fallowing your build and got some wonderful help from you along the ride, along with a wonderful train puzzle that has a special place in my train room!

If there is anything we can do please let us know.

Just a thought have you given any consideration to a mobility chair to go up and down the stairs? We just got my Father-in-law andit works great. I know it doesn't help your hands, but you might be able to go down and just run trains!

I greatly miss your post and your friendship here! Please take care and drop us a line now and then to let us know how you are doing!

@RSJB18 posted:

Add me to the list of well wishers Elliot. @big boy4014

For you and the person that posted after you ( @towdog ) Elliot's handle is big_boy_4005 - not 4014 so he will not be alerted to your posts as you've done them.

I had the pleasure of meeting Elliot and Miss Tammy in Duluth when 4014 came to town.  They were the most welcoming and a wonderful couple.  What I remember most is his deep, booming "radio voice" which proved even better when he joined in on the singing of "City of New Orleans."  I worked not too far from where he lives and he'd extended an invitation for me to stop by and view it.  I'm sorry that the opportunity to do so didn't present its self and meanwhile my work situation has changed.  I wish Elliot the best for his health circumstances and hope that he is comfortable.  Like most of us I hope he finds a way to continue with his layout but understand if he can't.

@big boy 4005 So sorry to hear of your health. I followed you faithfully and learned so much. I have always kept you in my prayers and there you will stay. As others have posted I am sorry to hear of the decision to possibly leave trains. I can tell it was a true love affair. I hope you at least can stay on here to advise all of us with all your knowledge. Someone like you doesn't come along too often. I know you lived and breathed trains and it was easy to see by your post and your layout. As was mentioned earlier I hope maybe whoever was helping maybe can continue and maybe you can get a chair lift installed so you can at least run trains. It seems all the long time great ones are slowly fading away either for health or other reasons including the great train ride to heaven. I am  very happy that you are not on that train as I still hold out hope as it is great to be able to at least hear from you. It is like a long lost brother returning home and I want to just sit and listen. My prayers are still with you.


I am so sorry to hear this.  I always enjoyed how large and beautiful this layout is. With so much love put into every detail starting with the benchwork. The helixes amazed me.  Still do to this day. I hope you can find a way to at least  get back down there and enjoy running trains. As everyone always says a layout is never finished and it doesnt have to be if it is up and running for the most part. I wish you all the best.  

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