I found out I have 2 of the same locomotives.Two railking C&O berkshires that have the same number.One has proto sounds and the other does not.Have any of you guys have 2 of the same locomotives?

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I have a few duplicates that have been renumbered. Fairly easy on MTH engines as the numbers can be removed without damaging the paint. Same with Lionel. Other brands may take a bit more effort as the base paint can be affected by whatever you use to try and remove the lettering.

Pete

I do.  None in O gauge.  I have two American Flyer 322 Hudsons, both smoke in tender units.  One is minty, the other needs more work than I do, so I'm keeping it for parts.

I have a few. I try not get any locos with the same number if I can help it. Some locos only come with one or two numbers, like my K-Line Alco's, so getting different road numbers isn't possible. I don't mind so much on my semi-scale locos and I don't bother to renumber them. I renumber my N-scale locos if I get one with a number I already have. I have one scale size O-gauge loco that will get renumbered when I have time for it.

I have two 6250 Seaboard NW-2 switchers. One is the original from the 1950s. The other I just got and is a postwar classic from the 1990s. I plan to renumber the newer one. 

I have two LionChief Plus Boston and Maine RS-3’s and two Norfolk and Western rectifiers. Each pair has the same number but it’s fine by me.

Cheers, Pete

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A few.  NYC PA-1 (decided I wanted ABA a few years later, so bought a second A), SP MU (price too good to buy just one, so I bought two, they look much better IMO not as singles), GE Dash-9 Demo unit (bought one originally, been picking up a few others (3 extras at the moment) in later years for potential repaints).  Those are all exact same duplicates (same Lionel catalog number). 

-Dave

Clarence Siman posted:

If you're talking of MTH engines, no. In Postwar Lionel, 27 of the 2026, and 15 of the 2037, then I'm not sure how many of the rest.

C&O both 2744.I got off ebay.I never thought it would have the same numbers.

Most of my collection are duplicates with the exception of different colors and different numbering/road name.

5 postwar Lionel switchers (4 postwar and 1 prewar), 10 Lionel Prairies (3 prewar and rest postwar), 2 Lionel turbines, 4 berkshires (3 postwar and 1 modern), 4 postwar GG1s, 4 postwar FM Trainmasters, 2 Percy's, 3 Thomas', 2 prewar 249's, and 2 postwar Dreyfuss'.

I have 2 lionel Burlington Northern 8585 diesel engines and 2 8586 engines and I have 2 lionel 4024 bigboys that are the same,

I have 3 PostWar Seaboard Switchers all different numbers and several other switchers 2 PostWar and several MTH. Then there the 3 “J”’s 1 Lionel PostWar the very first J that MTH produced back in the early 90’s and the first MTH Imperial J produced. Both MTH units are numbered 611.  I also have 5 sets of Warbonnet F3’s PostWar 2333, 2343 currently targeted for restoration 2353 (my original set) the reissue Lionel set from 1990 and the first MTH set the produced from 2005 I think.  Then 2 MTH GGI’s two different numbers. Then there are 4 FM Trainmasters 2 Lionel PostWar 2321 Maroon Top, 2331 Virginian, the Lionel Southern and MTH PRR and I think with the dummy unit not sure if MTH made a dummy unit I have as I always tried to buy the matching dummy unit. I think that may all of my duplicates. 

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gftiv posted:

If you can read the numbers, You are not running them fast enough.

That is the best reply that I have read in years..

Norton posted:

I have a few duplicates that have been renumbered. Fairly easy on MTH engines as the numbers can be removed without damaging the paint. Same with Lionel. Other brands may take a bit more effort as the base paint can be affected by whatever you use to try and remove the lettering.

Pete

I found your comment about MTH engines being easy to remove the paint to renumber. I'd like to hear the process, as I have an MTH engine I wouldn't mind do that to it if I can find the numbers and the process. Thanks,

Many years ago, when I was pre-ordering, I would sometimes buy two locomotives - even with the same road number - one to display and the other to run. Includes duplicate MTH LIRR and PRR G5s steam engines, New York Central P2b electric motors. I have numerous types of my favorite engines in duplicate, but with different road numbers, and Sunset/3rd Rail New Haven FL9s in triplicate. I doubt they will be produced again. Can you spell "obsession?"

MELGAR

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Jeff B. Haertlein posted:
Norton posted:

I have a few duplicates that have been renumbered. Fairly easy on MTH engines as the numbers can be removed without damaging the paint. Same with Lionel. Other brands may take a bit more effort as the base paint can be affected by whatever you use to try and remove the lettering.

Pete

I found your comment about MTH engines being easy to remove the paint to renumber. I'd like to hear the process, as I have an MTH engine I wouldn't mind do that to it if I can find the numbers and the process. Thanks,

I should have qualified my comment to say black diecast items. Not advised for plastic as they use different paint. Also recently found out this won't work on non black diecast as the color paint comes off as easily as the lettering.

Anyway, on black diecast I just use lacquer thinner and a paper towel or Q tip. Takes the lettering off in a minute and no damage to the paint.

On plastic I use Testors Easy Lift Off. Not as neat and requires more clean up but it is effective.

Pete

I have done about half dozen engines this way and posted the results on the forum. Search the numerous threads on removing lettering and you should find them.

As with any suggestion found here you should first test it in an inconspicuous place to make sure its safe on your particular item.

Pete

I have three duplicate post-war Lionel sets.  All of the original sets belonged to my father and my grandfather.  I bought the duplicates so I could preserve the originals for my children and grandchildren.  I operate the duplicates just to get a feel for running my Dad's and Grand-dad's trains.   The originals all still run and are in their original boxes and set boxes.  

The sets were all very inexpensive and that's how I was able to buy them.  They are as follows:

1.  Lionel Freight set #1423W headed up by a little die-cast 1655 Columbia style 2-4-2 locomotive.  Manufactured in 1948.

2.  Lionel Freight set #1590 headed up by a plastic 249 Columbia style 2-4-2 locomotive.  Manufactured in 1958.

3.  A Marx freight set headed up by a die-cast 666 Columbia style 2-4-2 locomotive.  I do not know the number of this set because if it was on the box it has completely faded.  The set was manufactured in 1959 to the best of my knowledge.

 

gftiv posted:

If you can read the numbers, You are not running them fast enough.

...and it's time to add scenery.

If we're reading engine/car numbers for entertainment from the hobby, we're standing at the precipice.

If we're troubled or embarrassed by more than one engine/car with the same number, it's time for a few more beers.

...or switching to HO.  You'll have LOTS of friends there.  (Voice of HOmiliation)

I'm surprised that no one has posted a picture of their doubles. Here are two of mine.

MELGAR

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Rose's. Had a couple of William's FM Chessie,  1 to run that needed parts and a non functioning one for parts, however someone wanted the working one before I could upgrade it.

Now I avoid that delemia and only own 1 of each and I  went from over100 engine's to less than 10.

I have several engines that are the same by plan.  When I started my 027, 28 switch, operating layout in 1976, I got four mostly plastic Lionel 2-4-2s, Marx 999, and 666s as I needed four to run on the layout at a time.  I moved up to 2026 2-6-4s as they pulled better and got four or more.  Later I moved up to 2035s as they pulled better and I had many heavy operating cars so I have probably six of them.  Being postwar, all cost $35 or less and all cost less than one of the new $600 plus engines.

Of course, the number on the cabs is not important to me, at least not enough to re-number them.

Charlie

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I have 2 2020 turbines, one from 1946 and the other from 1947. I try to avoid getting 2 of the same locomotive, but the second one was more of an accidental purchase.

Nathan B posted:

Most of my collection are duplicates with the exception of different colors and different numbering/road name.

5 postwar Lionel switchers (4 postwar and 1 prewar), 10 Lionel Prairies (3 prewar and rest postwar), 2 Lionel turbines, 4 berkshires (3 postwar and 1 modern), 4 postwar GG1s, 4 postwar FM Trainmasters, 2 Percy's, 3 Thomas', 2 prewar 249's, and 2 postwar Dreyfuss'.

That is a lot of trains my friend.As for my self I have 3 northerns 1 mike 4 mohawks or mountain type 1 hudson 6 berkshires 2 dash 8 and a gp40-2 and a sd70 ace.

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