I still have a question. The K-line freedom train is TMCC and my U30c 1776 is legacy with odyssey. I can switch the odyssey off and on. I dont see a switch for legacy. I did set up a lashup and it moves the whole train but i dont want to hurt either engine.  There is a lot of weight with 18 cars.  I did try the 1/2 ft trial to see if they will move together and the U30c moves first before the freedom engine. Any suggestions besides shortening the train. I would probably only run the full train on special occasions anyways.

The U30c part number is 6-38417. The k-line number for the Freedom is k-1122. If that helps. 

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Well this is a Toy. Not a real railroad. Also Lionel the manufacturer of this Toy uses this terminology. Like anything else in life everyone has their own opinions. I am not here to start a argument over terminology. I am here to ask a question and get advice about a Toy. 

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Wayne,  I'm just kidding.    There are a couple of full sized RRer folks on board here who can get wrangled with that term.

I also am fully persuaded that we all have some degree of arrested development playing with our toy trains.  

Anyone operating "steam" engines with electricity having decorative side rods flopping in the wind making artificial sounds rolling on three over wide, oversized hollow rails with curves that could turn an entire train around in a scale football field (like I do on a regular basis) is playing with a toy. 

What makes me smile is when my friends wearing unique costumes following little white balls around a big lawn look down their noses at me.  

It's all good.    Welcome to our play pen!

 

It is my understanding that if you build a lash up using a Legacy engine and a TMCC engine, the TMCC engine should be the lead engine.  I have an Atlas TMCC with no cruise that I put in front of Legacy engine and I leave the Odyssey switch ON and they seem to function OK.  I suspect that in your set up, the diesel will do most of the work but it should be able to handle it.

Happy railroading,

Don

@Tom Tee posted:

Wayne,  I'm just kidding.    There are a couple of full sized RRer folks on board here who can get wrangled with that term.

Yep, and I am one of them.

If your "lashup" isn't working right, you probably need more rope to tie the units together tighter. 

@Tom Tee posted:

Wayne,  I'm just kidding.   

Anyone operating "steam" engines with electricity having decorative side rods flopping in the wind making artificial sounds rolling on three over wide, oversized hollow rails with curves that could turn an entire train around in a scale football field (like I do on a regular basis) is playing with a toy. 

 

 

I knew you were kidding. I just wanted to make sure people understand I am not here for advice about the real trains and their terminology. I grew up with family that worked for the railroad.  Thats why i posted the manual that states Lionel’s terminology. If they dont like that terminology then they should reach out to lionel and ask them to correct it. 

I have often wondered why model train importers (hate that word) frequently use the "TOY" word on their boxes???  Always on electrical supplies.  Might just be a preemptive legal reason.

@DGJONES posted:

It is my understanding that if you build a lash up using a Legacy engine and a TMCC engine, the TMCC engine should be the lead engine.  I have an Atlas TMCC with no cruise that I put in front of Legacy engine and I leave the Odyssey switch ON and they seem to function OK.  I suspect that in your set up, the diesel will do most of the work but it should be able to handle it.

Happy railroading,

Don

Thank you Don.  I appreciate the advice. I just didnt know whether to turn on or off the odyssey switch.  

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