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Originally Posted by Norton:

I see one of these in my future. I know its says it will only etch some metals. I would be interested to hear about attempts to cut metal. Maybe repeated passes would cut through .010" brass?

 

Pete

No , Pete.

to cut metal the frequency have to be lot higher and will cost a looooot more.

aluminum is dented a little so you can engrave. brass after several pass remain the same. Trust me I did it.

AG.

I too see possibilities with 3D. Short term I see steam engine drivers and siderods, plus little fixtures like air pumps, and piping. Diesel truck sideframes. Maybe even track turnouts? 

Longer term, as others have suggested, would be complete bodies of steam or diesel power. How about passenger cars with correct window placements! The sky will be the limit for sure.

 

Dan Weinhold

No doubt the technology being developed is fantastic.  We use 3d printing to make waxes or resin masters quite frequently.  In my opinion the biggest fallacy is there being no difference between the folks actually doing the printing.

 

My point is, many people use one of the larger suppliers available to all and profess the high quality of their results.  The fact is, just like anything else, you get what you pay for.  When making a print used in creating a master you want the highest resolution possible.  To get these results you need to use a machine costing several hundreds of thousands of dollars.

 

To think a driver, wheel, or any part requiring the precision needed for top quality operation can be printed and used as created is just not true, at least at this point.

 

As an example, we'll be making 10 to 12 Harriman early Pacifics.  We had a true expert create the cad drawings along with using his professional contacts to do the printing.  After that he had a foundry that specializes in jewelry and extremely fine casting create the master.  Once the master was created we had one of the best lost wax foundries create a vulcanized mold and cast up 80, or so, driver centers.

 

The tires, axles, bearings, crank pins, and gears are either in stock or being created at this time.

 

I suppose my point is, yes, 3d printing is an exciting tool we can use to create numerous, really cool, parts but it isn't and probably never be the be all, end all solution.

 

Jay

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Hey Bob,

 

I pay $7.00 for the raw castings.  If I were selling them I'd have to add the cost of creating the cad drawings, 3d printing, master casting, mold creation plus the $7.00.

 

As you know, lots of machining to do.  First thing I do is machine the stud on the rear of the casting down to 1/4" (.2500").  This is so it fits a like sized collet.  From there most of the remaining machining is done with the collet on a lathe.  The last part, prior to mounting them on their axles is boring the hole for the steel crank pins.  This is done with a vertical mill.

 

Obviously, none of this is new to you or Joe (along with a few other crazies) but if someone has never done it they need to be aware of the learning curve required.  I obtained my knowledge by making lots of mistakes and ruining many castings.

 

Jay

Jay, I have no doubt you are correct is saying you need an expensive machine to do quality 3D printing. Despite the fact that Glowforge might refer to their device as a 3D printer its really just a laser cutter, wouldn't you agree? 3D printers add material to make objects. Laser cutters remove material to make objects.

This machine looks to like it might be ideal for making buildings and other objects that don't require super precision, not a mechanical device like a locomotive that require close tolerances.

 

Pete

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