Skip to main content

Hi, I hope everyone is off to a great New Year !

Although I do have one dedicated loop of 072, PW traditional sized trains look best on the rest of my tubular track mid-sized layout, so I was looking for a way to improve the pull of my traditional size Polar Express locomotive.  This is the ORIGINAL Lionel Polar Express version that I am referencing.

I guess first I should ask if Lionel has made a traditional size PE with great pulling power after the original version, that can pull all of the traditional sized PE cars.

Then I wondered if the shell from my traditional PE could be extracted and installed in place of the shell on a PW Berkshire which has known strong pulling power. Or I guess I could just have a PW Berk repainted/renumbered as 1225. Overall, I think the PW Berk shell looks much better than the shell of the original PE.

Then I wondered if the motor in this original PE could be replaced with one that has stronger pulling power so I can pull all of the available traditional size PE cars.

Any opinions as to which would be the better option ? 

Or I could just wait and hope that Lionel re-releases another scale version and buy all new everything PE.

Original Post

Replies sorted oldest to newest

Lionel has released several later versions of the PE traditional sized locomotive with upgraded power.  I took a conventional Series II model (larger motor) and upgraded it to TMCC and fan driven smoke.  It easily pulls seven of the set PE cars around my layout, including the 2.5% grade.  I've also run one of the Lionchief Plus 2.0 locomotives with the same seven cars with the same result.  I'd probably opt for the LC+ 2.0 model and swap the shell if you want to "improve" the looks.

Here's my TMCC upgraded model coming up the grade with all the cars.  The LC+ 2.0 model has the same larger motor and the same performance on my layout.

Last edited by gunrunnerjohn

Add Reply

OGR Publishing, Inc., 1310 Eastside Centre Ct, Suite 6, Mountain Home, AR 72653
Link copied to your clipboard.