Indoor outdoor carpeting or felt? for a ground cover mat on a layout. I'm using Lionel tubular track for my small layout,
*Update- I think I will be using felt my one question is what kind of felt it the best to use for a layout?
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Indoor outdoor carpeting or felt? for a ground cover mat on a layout. I'm using Lionel tubular track for my small layout,
*Update- I think I will be using felt my one question is what kind of felt it the best to use for a layout?
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I personally love felt on classic Lionel tubular and American Flyer classic layouts! ncng
I began with felt and have enjoyed it over the years. Lately, I have been upgrading with ballasting my tracks and open areas. I left the felt on and it covered nicely and blends well.
I would encourage you to put a layer of masonite or foam underneath the felt.
I would go with felt. It has a more classic feel. It is also thinner and finer of surface and that helps the modeling a bit.
I put a small(3' x 6') piece of green indoor/outdoor carpet on my old layout as a test. Sort of liked the looks of it and the foam backing. I was thinking of covering all of my new layout with it. I like the rougher surface look of the carpet.
JoAnn Fabrics has two grades that are 60" wide and sold by the yard. The craft felt is the least expensive and is on sale from time to time. It is polyester.
The good stuff is thicker, has some natural fibers in it and is 2x the cost.
I use 3M 77 Spray adhesive around the edges and fit the felt with a little tension and trim the edges with a utility knife or box cutter with a fresh blade when dry.
The outdoor carpet will have a rubber backing for some sound absorption. Tough to find the right color in a tight weave, but you can. You can spray glue that down, too. About the same in cost as the good felt.
Just to offer a different perspective/idea at the risk of being disruptive...
We built a 5x8 portable layout for a local organization. Knowing it would be viewed closely, maybe even jostled as kids crowded around it, we used a looped pile I/O green carpet for the base. Besides looking great, it allowed us to put pads of the hooked Velcro tape on the bottom of layout items such as trees, buildings, people, telephone poles, signs....pretty much anything that might not tolerate an occasional bump of the table without falling over. A light downward press of the item as it was placed ensured a pretty good grip. When it was time to pack up for a move, it all came apart easily, ready for the next time. Also, it gave the participating folks a chance to set up the scenery items differently each time.
Oh yes, we did use felt, too, on the same layout... We bought a couple yards of gray felt, cut it into strips of different lengths to form roadways for the vehicles. The felt also had enough knap to it to 'stick' to the looped pile carpet.
All in all it worked quite well we think.
FWIW, always.
KD
We use felt on our portable modules and the kids under the main layout, table. All built by forum member Eddiem whose home layout is all felt.
I found a carpet product at Lowes that had the perfect size pile in a two tone green shading that mimics grass very well. I will post photos later as soon as I get my computer back from the repair shop.
Here is a sample of the carpet I referred to above. Please click on this photo to get an enlarged view.
I used the plastic green astro turf type outdoor carpet for a FasTrack layout I did. I really like how it came out.
I wentto a local Home Depot and bought 3 sheets of Homosote for y layout. Pricey but I just plan to cover it with the tight loop indoor/outdoor carpet. Home Depot has it in 12' widths which is nice because my layout is 12' square with an open space hear the middle. Really not too expensive. The trial piece I had I just stapled the edges down real good.
I used the plastic green astro turf type outdoor carpet for a FasTrack layout I did. I really like how it came out.
I personally despise that plastic astroturf stuff. It looks terrible, falls apart, "flakes" come off, etc. I've used a very fine green out/in carpet and my current layout uses grey in/out carpet. I prefer the grey. I think it looks cleaner, a bit brighter, neater etc.
No, the road is made up of black asphalt roofing shingles. For those who want a realistic asphalt road, this is a good solution. The carpet is butted up against the curbing.
I hope this helps.
I began with felt and have enjoyed it over the years. Lately, I have been upgrading with ballasting my tracks and open areas. I left the felt on and it covered nicely and blends well.
I would encourage you to put a layer of masonite or foam underneath the felt.
Looks great nice work
I used the plastic green astro turf type outdoor carpet for a FasTrack layout I did. I really like how it came out.
I personally despise that plastic astroturf stuff. It looks terrible, falls apart, "flakes" come off, etc. I've used a very fine green out/in carpet and my current layout uses grey in/out carpet. I prefer the grey. I think it looks cleaner, a bit brighter, neater etc.
Mine has stood up to being moved twice, rolling out from and back under a bed for 6 years, and even cats scratching. And I use a vacuum to clean it. I've had no flaking or falling apart. Sure the cut edges can come apart, but I believe I hemmed it when I fastened it to the board, and then I just laid everything else on top.
I've never used either felt or indoor/outdoor carpet. It seems to me the carpet might deaden sound better. Is that correct?
Carpet padding covered my last layout, with electricians' wire ties securing the track, and it was good at sound deadening, and could easily be painted black for roads. Another great thing was that Marx telephone poles with those wide plastic bases could be simply installed by slitting the padding and sliding the base under. Great when you bumped into poles too. The pole wouldn't break, just tilt. However, the padding was a pain to drill through: The material would wind around the bits.
I used fleece blanket throws I find on sale at Wal-Mart around Christmas time. The main layout uses a couple of olive colored ones.
The portable layout uses a bright green one.
Kinda looks like felt, but "fluffier" and the olive color looks pretty good as ground cover.
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