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I am currently using a dpdt mini toggle switch to turn on/off siding power.  The switch also controls a bi-color led (green power on / red power off).

 

I found this switch from NKK switches that is illuminated with a bicolor led.  I was thinking I could use this eliminating the separate led in my current arrangement.

 

I am not good at reading schematics and they are indicating that you can get this switch in either "isolated" or "Synchronous" configuration.  

 

As I do not know what that means I was was hoping someone couldexplain it to me so I would know which configuration would work for my application.

 

The switch is one of their M2100 series DPDT illuminated Bicolor.

 

http://www.nkkswitches.com/pdf/M2100.pdf

 

 

Thanks

 

 

 

 

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The isolated version is what you have now - a switch and a separate LED.  They are packaged together but the switch position and the LED color are isolated/independent.

 

The synchronous version means the LED color is synchronized/tied-to the switch position.  Flip the switch and the LED color changes.

 

There are many scenarios but, for example, suppose you want the LED to indicate what's actually going on at the controlled device (a block section, a turnout position, whatever).  In that case you would feed back a signal from the controlled device to drive the LED.

 

Stan,

 

First, thank you for helping with the info.

 

Just to be sure I am on the right page with your explanation - I will be usng the DPDT to

 

a) turn on/off track power ( 0-18vac)

b) illuminate led (4.5vdc)  on position =green ,  off = red

 

So for this application I would get the isolated version since I have 2 different voltages at play.  I run in conventional at times so even though I turn the switch to on, there not be any voltage from the transformer at that time while there will always be DC voltage present for the leds.  

 

I hope I am making sense. This switch would be perfect for my control panel since the new panel is smaller and eliminating the seperate leds would look a lot cleaner, and easier to implement.

 

Thanks,

Ed

 

I agree with GRJ.  The isolated style gives you flexibility.  Due to the way the LEDs are connected within the switch, I believe you need two DC power supplies of opposite polarity.  In other words one with DC+ (to illuminate one color) and another with DC- (to illuminate other color).  You also need a resistor for each switch.  Where is your 4.5V DC coming from? 

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Folks,

Here are the photos of my current configuration (DPDT + bicolor 3 prong led) and the spec sheet for the new switch I am looking at. It has the bicolor led built in.   I believe the one I need would be the "Isolated Bicolor LED" schematic.

Unfortunately I am not very good at reading electrical schematics so I am trying to determine if I can use the new DPDT switch in the way that I need which is

- turn power feed on/off to track AC 

- turn led color to red when switch is off and green when on. (DC power)

Hopefully this makes it a little clearer.  

Thanks,

Ed

 

 

 

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