I just picked up a set of three of these cars, the 1781 Strasburg, the 1782 York and the 1784 Observation. I am not very familiar with JAD Daniels Trains. I know the JAD Standard Gauge Hiawatha, and know they made a Standard Gauge M10000. I know that Daniels was the D of JAD. 

About when were these made? Were there other cars? Judging by the numbering I have to assume there was a 1783 coach to fill the numerical gap between the other coaches and the observation car. How rare or common are these, and are there any known quirks with them, or variations. 

I have to assume Arno and some of the others here will be able to fill in the gaps. Thanks in advance. 

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JAD stands for the first name initials of John Daniels, Art Varney, and Dick Bataglia.  Jerry Brown was also involved, so maybe it should have been JJAD!

There is often confusion around this, partly because John A. Daniels' initials are JAD, but not the same JAD; credit where credit is due.

John Daniels made these "heavyweight"  passenger sets on his own, as "Daniels Railway", not with JAD.  This was around 1981 or so.

I have his 5-car Black Diamond set, #1785-6-7-8-9; combination car, 2 pullmans, diner, and observation.  Beautiful set, loads of incredible detail.

david

Seafoid, your photo came through great.  They are beautiful cars.

If the numbering for the Pennsylvania cars followed the same pattern as my Black Diamond cars, then #1780 would have been for the combination; 1781 and 1782 are your two different coaches; #1783 would be the diner; and 1784 is your observation.  Whether or not the other cars were actually made in the Penn set I do not know.  In any case, your three make a great set that is plenty to haul around a standard gauge layout!

Daniels made a matching Pennsylvania standard gauge GG-1 to pull these with. Like the cars, there were not many made, but they do come up for sale now and then.

david

Nice coaches--I like them in Brunswick Green; never seen that before.  I have 4 of them in Tuscan, including the 1780 combine or "Club Car" as it's lettered. Still in the hunt for the diner.  They look real good behind a 392E.

The coaches in the video above are actually the heavyweights that Lionel made a few years ago to go with their SG Commodore Vanderbilt--another item on the "want" list!!

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These cars were made by the John Daniel's Railway Lines starting around 1981 (please, not JAD). They came in 4 different color combinations: Tuscan Red, Brunswick Green, Black Diamond and Blue Comet. The Tuscan variation was the most produced, the Blue Comet the least. They were originally sold as a 3-car set with the Club car and Diner as add-on cars later. They show up from time to time at York or at auction. Persistence is key when looking for one of these sets. Buy them as a set with as many cars as you want, the odds of finding separate cars after the fact is hard. But, if a seller on ebay splits up the set, then you have a chance.

Hope this helps,

ARNO

Collector of Modern Era Standard Gauge trains
Writing the book on little known standard gauge trains.

 

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terry hudon posted:

nice vid,those passenger cars look an awful lot like the lti  cars that came with the commodore Vanderbilt

That is because they are the same cars from that set. The locomotive has also been re-motored so it is not a fair example of the John Daniel's Railway Lines GG-1 running... they never ran that good!

ARNO

Collector of Modern Era Standard Gauge trains
Writing the book on little known standard gauge trains.

 

"Not Your Daddy's Standard Gauge!"

Seafoid posted:

I just picked up a set of three of these cars, the 1781 Strasburg, the 1782 York and the 1784 Observation. I am not very familiar with JAD Daniels Trains. I know the JAD Standard Gauge Hiawatha, and know they made a Standard Gauge M10000. I know that Daniels was the D of JAD. 

About when were these made? Were there other cars? Judging by the numbering I have to assume there was a 1783 coach to fill the numerical gap between the other coaches and the observation car. How rare or common are these, and are there any known quirks with them, or variations. 

I have to assume Arno and some of the others here will be able to fill in the gaps. Thanks in advance. 

Hello. I have the 1783 if interested. garyhemmingstad@gmail.comDSC_8854

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These cars were made by the John Daniel's Railway Lines starting around 1981 (please, not JAD). They came in 4 different color combinations: Tuscan Red, Brunswick Green, Black Diamond and Blue Comet. The Tuscan variation was the most produced, the Blue Comet the least. They were originally sold as a 3-car set with the Club car and Diner as add-on cars later. They show up from time to time at York or at auction. Persistence is key when looking for one of these sets. Buy them as a set with as many cars as you want, the odds of finding separate cars after the fact is hard. But, if a seller on ebay splits up the set, then you have a chance.

Hope this helps,

ARNO

Hi Arno, I am Sean Battaglia, the son of Richard ‘Dick’ Battaglia who is the ‘D’ in JAD Railways  

I have seen a few of your posts and understand you are writing a book so I wanted to reach out to both say Hi and also offer any help you may need regarding JAD

I receive a large number of sales calls along with an untold amout of spam so I will spell out my number and hope the bots do t pick it up and again, don’t hesitate to contact me or give my number to whomever you know that wants to talk about JAD.  

Three one zero - four eight nine - five two two five

Take Care

sean

 

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