K-LINE K-3470-1295cc 4-6-6T TANK ENGINE

Well, the cruise module in these is somewhat suspect, I have two of them.  One is already converted to ERR Cruise, and the other one now needs it.  The sticking point is no chuff switch, so you have to provide that as well.

I’ve had two of these cross my workbench in the last three  months , they both had the same issue. The main cruise module like Gunrunner John said above was blown out, what’s worse is the parts are no longer available. It’s a shame because it’s a beautiful model. 

Alex 

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Its a cool engine. Mine still works but if it dies its repairable. Just not as easy as some. Replace the K-Line Cruise board with a Cruise M and and add a chuff switch. 

Buy it right and have it upgraded. Cost will still likely be half of a legacy version.

Pete

If the Legacy version every happens.   The one I have with the flaky K-Line cruise is going to get the full treatment, it will be "almost" like a Legacy engine.

Norton posted:

Its a cool engine. Mine still works but if it dies its repairable. Just not as easy as some. Replace the K-Line Cruise board with a Cruise M and and add a chuff switch. 

Buy it right and have it upgraded. Cost will still likely be half of a legacy version.

Pete

Hi Pete,

Cruise M is great , But i don't like putting an old fashion reed switch with magnets on the wheels. Or do you mean use a cherry switch ? 

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Alex. I was just using the term generically. I suspect most would pick John's chuff generator as the easiest to implement. Myself, it would depend on whats available. In the past I have made custom axle cams for cherry switches or used optical devices on a driver. Reed switches and magnets are pretty much a last resort. I know its pretty well packed in there so choices are limited. I will cross that bridge when I come to it.

Pete

Randy_B posted:

That's unfortunate as I have been eyeing these for a while as well. Is it possible Lionel has the tooling for these and we will see them in Legacy sometime?

Although Lionel licensed use of some of K-Line's scale tooling (A5, Pacific, Mikado, Berkshire), to the best of my knowledge Lionel does NOT currently have the 4-6-6T tooling nor the K-Line scale Hudson tooling from which the suburban tank tooling was based.  The sub-tank and hudson tooling remain in control of the company or principal (Sanda-Kan/Kader?) that retook K-Line's tooling when K-Line was liquidated.  That said, the tooling is likely available to any company that is willing to pay the asking price to either use/license or buy it outright.  I agree that the K-Line 4-6-6T (and its Hudson) would be great w/ Lionel Legacy but after all this time I think that Kader might be holding it back in case it ever wants to introduce a detailed scale steam engine to it's Williams by Bachmann line.  It's obviously much more expensive to employ that detailed tooling with quality results in today's manufacturing market.

You can have a steam train ...If you'd just lay down your tracks.

Jim Harrington posted:
gunrunnerjohn posted:

If the Legacy version every happens.   The one I have with the flaky K-Line cruise is going to get the full treatment, it will be "almost" like a Legacy engine.

So when will you release a quillable whistle board?

That would be... never.   That's the "almost".

Love these. Very good models. An example of why K-Line was such a loss when it went belly-up. Mine "runs" fine; I put "runs" in quotes because I haven't run it in years. It's on the keep-it short list. It really deserves a presentable (as in tucked away as much as possible) O-gauge front coupler - a dummy would be fine - as the real one spent half its time running cab-forward. One day I'll do that myself.

"Does it run?"

"It ran when I parked it."

Oh, boy.

Depends on how it goes Jim.  On some K-Line cruise modules, the cruise module literally goes up in smoke, those don't run at all.  Others just have jerky performance, and some simply run away.  They don't all fail in the same way.

winrose46 posted:

I have the reading version, and I had Engine House Hobbies replace the electronics with Proto2.  It runs well and is a very nice engine.

That was a good move. Any of these I see for see for sale … I run, not walk away. When the cruise burns out it usually takes the motor driver board with it and other resistors.

 

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Jim S posted:

The K-Line B&A tank engines were very nice well detailed models.  I seriously considered buying one but they never produced the passenger cars that went with them so I passed on it.  

Bingo, everyone missed out on a money maker on that one.  Lots of engines out there with nothing for them to pull

superwarp1 posted:
Jim S posted:

The K-Line B&A tank engines were very nice well detailed models.  I seriously considered buying one but they never produced the passenger cars that went with them so I passed on it.  

Bingo, everyone missed out on a money maker on that one.  Lots of engines out there with nothing for them to pull

I thought someone mentioned (and I tend to agree) that a set of heavyweight Pullman green cars would fit in with the B&A 4-6-6T.

Some interesting info on the B&A versions at these websites.

https://sites.google.com/site/...8-4/4-4-0/4-6-0/tank

http://www.steamlocomotive.com...&railroad=nyc#42

You can have a steam train ...If you'd just lay down your tracks.

Trainlover9943 posted:
Jim S posted:

The K-Line B&A tank engines were very nice well detailed models.  I seriously considered buying one but they never produced the passenger cars that went with them so I passed on it.  

The B&A ran them tender first in passenger service correct?

Yes they were run tender first for return trips of the commuter trains they were designed to operate with.  This eliminated having to uncouple them from the train and have them turned on a turntable in order to take a train back from where it came from.  In my opinion their resemblance to the NYC Hudsons is refreshing.   

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