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Thanks for clarifying. I do know that K Line did a great job on running and detailing these engines, also that they were made for running on O36 radius trackage which was my first layout and still look good doing it. These were also the engines I did my first double heading with.

Again, thanks. I was unaware they also made a semi scale version.

josef posted:

SDC18678SDC18673SDC18676Are the K Line NYC Hudson's Semi scale? They marked as being scale by K Line? I have 2 which are excellent runners, though they could use an improvement on smoke.

I've been thinking of selling one, and the one's with command control I have seen on the bay ones go for 389 to 529.00 in past 4 months. They are highly detailed and satisfied with both of mine. But my interest has turned to the 2-8-0s Pennsy's.

 

If they say scale, they are scale (1:48). K-Line was not lying to you.

These K-Line Hudsons have often been considered the finest die-cast O-scale NYC J1 models around, and I have to agree. They capture the locomotive better in subtle ways than the other die-cast brands - and those locos are great models, too, so that is saying something. (However, MTH has never corrected the contours of their Premier J1's smokebox door. It's just wrong, and misses the proper "NYC face", which is important.)

Some really object to the "u-shaped boiler casting" on the K-line locos. I see it, but it does not scream at me.  

The streamlined tender always bothered me on certain Lionel locos.  Not that I don't like it's looks, it's simply that it's too narrow for the locos that Lionel paired it with, with the exception of the turbine.  

The worst pairing was the last full scale Hudson Lionel produced.  Was that '66 or '69, I forget at the moment.  The tender looks absolutely silly with the locomotive.  

 

Dan Padova posted:

The streamlined tender always bothered me on certain Lionel locos.  Not that I don't like it's looks, it's simply that it's too narrow for the locos that Lionel paired it with, with the exception of the turbine.  

The worst pairing was the last full scale Hudson Lionel produced.  Was that '66 or '69, I forget at the moment.  The tender looks absolutely silly with the locomotive.  

 

The 2046 got the PRR style tender and the 2020 turbine got the baby 2426 NYC style tender. As a small kid who knew the difference.

Pete

Norton posted:
Dan Padova posted:

The streamlined tender always bothered me on certain Lionel locos.  Not that I don't like it's looks, it's simply that it's too narrow for the locos that Lionel paired it with, with the exception of the turbine.  

The worst pairing was the last full scale Hudson Lionel produced.  Was that '66 or '69, I forget at the moment.  The tender looks absolutely silly with the locomotive.  

 

The 2046 got the PRR style tender and the 2020 turbine got the baby 2426 NYC style tender. As a small kid who knew the difference.

Pete

When our parents bought a set of used Lionel, one of the locos wouldn't work.  So I asked for a new loco the following year.  But it had to have the streamlined tender.  In those days I knew the difference.  To my disappointment, however, the new tender did not have a whistle.  And if that wasn't bad enough, the tender was too light and derailed pulling my pre-war Madison passenger cars around O31 curves.  

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