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Hot Water posted:
jim pastorius posted:

Go to RailPictures.net for two recent, great photos of PRRs  K4 1361.

Why bother?  Just more beating of the dead horse, as nothing has really changed.

It seems all the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put poor 1361 back together again.   I'll be lucky to see it running again in my lifetime and God willing, that will be a fairly long time yet.

To really stir the pot, just reassemble it properly with the correct painting and display it at Altoona.  Some things are not meant to happen and with 2 K4s' in existence, why not just make a great indoor display out of it?

Instead of building a T1 of questionable engineering when it was originally designed, I'd rather see a replica K4s anyway with the modern equipment and appliances necessary to run on Class 1 track.  

In the meantime, my Sunset 2 Rail 1361 is a decent stand in.  It runs. 

I visited the Altoona museum at the end of June.  It was my first visit since they built the roundhouse.

Click on any photo to see the larger versions.

k4 pic01

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Here is the 1361's boiler sitting on the flat car.  The car looks to be a museum piece that hasn't seen revenue service in a while.

k4 pic03

Here's the smokebox end.

k4 pic04

The ash pan is here and it looks like you could pick up the air tool and go to work on it.

k4 pic05

The stack and grates are nearby.

k4 pic06

The headlight is here, too.

k4 pic07

Some of the other parts are laid out on the floor.  The steam delivery pipes are in the rear.

k4 pic08

The tender looks to me like a class 130P75.

k4 pic09

Here's an overview showing most of the 1361's bits and pieces that are in the roundhouse.

k4 pic10

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Bobby Ogage posted:

It looks to me as the dirty work of cleaning the 1361's parts is done. Now it's time for a knowledgeable team with steam experience to step in, repair / replace what needs to be and assemble her into working order.

Not quite! The firebox are needs to be replaced in order to comply with current FRA regulations, just like the Strasburg Steam Shop has done/been doing to the Long Island group's PRR G5.

As you can tell, I have an optimistic point of view. What the 1361 needs most is expertise and help!

And LOTS more money to pay for all that help!

 

Bob posted:
Hot Water posted:

Nice photos, Bob.  Did you happen to see the engine frame & running gear?

I photographed all of the pieces that were there.  I was wondering where the other "big pieces" are.

Hmmmmm.  That's interesting. Quite some time ago, I. did see a few photos of the frame, and the separate drivers sitting on a floor (without the journals and crankpins properly protected), but not indication of their location.

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