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Key Model Imports E5 detailed study

Erik C LindgrenErik C LindgrenOGR Forum Member
A review for most of you; I feel it is important this content be in the OGR archives. I have been putting this off for a year and just realized last night I had not posted this on OGR. Well better late than never.

I am very proud that I worked on this assignment with Key Model Imports; a dream come true for me. My first real experience as a researcher; nonetheless I covered a lot of ground. There are a lot of misconceptions about the E5 out there from stainless panels applied to a E6 like a Pullman Standard lightweight car to fellas thinking the red paint was the first variation. It was difficult to weed through the rumors and come to hard facts. I am indebted to the guys all over that still had records and photos and notes about these fine but odd extremely unique locomotives. These were a very different kind of animal that is for sure.

PHASE ONE 1942-1948 Black painted stripes
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Erik C LindgrenErik C LindgrenOGR Forum Member
PHASE ONE Late Red painted stripes



In the later years these locomotives were so dirty despite acid baths and cleanings at shoppings that we decided to take a standard approach to the late E5 and make it the standard finish. Dull coating the roof was a good option that I think would have worked well however I felt it gets away from the bare stainless finish. However it would have very well simulated the heavy grime and accumulation of life on the rails for 20 years on the roof and ends that were often missed in cleanings.
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Big JimBig JimOGR Forum Member DIGITAL SUBSCRIBER
Originally Posted by Erik C Lindgren:
Mirrors

(I suppose they also act as wind deflectors with the transparent glass...


Dang I hoped it was not necessary to defend my research.

These are pretty much the standard mirrors of the time... It is an etched part.

On a side note what is up with the membership on OGR these days? Frankly it makes me want to stop adding content. I can keep it to myself just as easily. This takes me time and effort to pull this stuff together for the forum.  I am only responding to recent actions I've seen here on OGR. 

This project has been given the title as the best E5 ever produced in any scale by not just one but several Q experts including the curator of a well known institution charged with preservation of EMC/EMD history. Samples from this run are used as exhibits.

I rest my case.

Seriously! You're getting upset because the man asked a legitimate question?

 

The simple answer is:

They are wind deflectors with mirrors. What's so hard about that?

 

I like the black striped one best. The red striped one looks unfinished.

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Erik C LindgrenErik C LindgrenOGR Forum Member
That's what I wrote Mr Big.



Originally Posted by Big Jim:

       
Originally Posted by Erik C Lindgren:
Mirrors

(I suppose they also act as wind deflectors with the transparent glass...


Dang I hoped it was not necessary to defend my research.

These are pretty much the standard mirrors of the time... It is an etched part.

On a side note what is up with the membership on OGR these days? Frankly it makes me want to stop adding content. I can keep it to myself just as easily. This takes me time and effort to pull this stuff together for the forum.  I am only responding to recent actions I've seen here on OGR. 

This project has been given the title as the best E5 ever produced in any scale by not just one but several Q experts including the curator of a well known institution charged with preservation of EMC/EMD history. Samples from this run are used as exhibits.

I rest my case.

Seriously! You're getting upset because the man asked a legitimate question?

 

The simple answer is:

They are wind deflectors with mirrors. What's so hard about that?

 

I like the black striped one best. The red striped one looks unfinished.

Austin BillAustin BillOGR Forum Member

Erik,

 

Super fine pictures and excellent research.  Thanks and please keep it up.  Judging from the number of hits your posts get, I gotta believe the silent majority really enjoys them along with those that take the time to post.   

 

Your post kindled fond memories of the E5 on the point of the of the Texas Zephyr coming through my very small home town at the time of Vernon Texas in the 1940's on the FW&D/C&S line between Ft Worth and Denver.  People would come down to the station and sit on the hoods of their cars and watch the Texas Zephyr streak by. Maybe she even stopped now and then.  Can't remember.  

 

I put a penny on the track once.  Couldn't afford a nickel as my allowance was 25 cents a week.  9 cents for a Saturday movie, 5 cents for milk duds and a whole dime to last the rest of the week!  Big money.

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Erik C LindgrenErik C LindgrenOGR Forum Member
Thank you Austin!

OGR is a great bunch of folks


Originally Posted by Austin Bill:

       

Erik,

 

Super fine pictures and excellent research.  Thanks and please keep it up.  Judging from the number of hits your posts get, I gotta believe the silent majority really enjoys them along with those that take the time to post.   

 

Your post kindled fond memories of the E5 on the point of the of the Texas Zephyr coming through my very small home town at the time of Vernon Texas in the 1940's on the FW&D/C&S line between Ft Worth and Denver.  People would come down to the station and sit on the hoods of their cars and watch the Texas Zephyr streak by. Maybe she even stopped now and then.  Can't remember.  

 

I put a penny on the track once.  Couldn't afford a nickel as my allowance was 25 cents a week.  9 cents for a Saturday movie, 5 cents for milk duds and a whole dime to last the rest of the week!  Big money.

BT big trainOGR Forum Member

Hi Erik,

I have an off topic question I would like to ask you but I don't see an email in your profile.  Is there a way to reach you?  I'll eventually see you at a show around town, or at Caboose Hobbies, so I can ask you when I next I see you if nothing else.

 

Secondly, just a heads up the link in your profile for the Colorado O Scalers is missing an "O".

 

Thanks,

Jim

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Erik C LindgrenErik C LindgrenOGR Forum Member
Thank you for info- the link on this post works fine.

erikclindgren@gmail.com

http://coloradooscale.org

Originally Posted by big train:

       
Hi Erik,
I have an off topic question I would like to ask you but I don't see an email in your profile.  Is there a way to reach you?  I'll eventually see you at a show around town, or at Caboose Hobbies, so I can ask you when I next I see you if nothing else.

Secondly, just a heads up the link in your profile for the Colorado O Scalers is missing an "O".

Thanks,
Jim
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Erik C LindgrenErik C LindgrenOGR Forum Member
All materials are: (C) 2015 Key Model Imports (used for reference only) Research material for the Full diaphragms used through 1945-1946 we finally abandoned. Cost versus operation and appearance. imageimageimageimageimageimage
Early preliminary G.O.D. Of the soft portion of the mechanism.
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Construction methodology research using Fred Hill's "Trojan" diaphragm in HO scale.
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We did manage to complete some good drawings and plans.
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