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Originally Posted by CWEX:

Well they posted an update on the 24th...read it here.

Hmmm.....  If he got back on the 24th, and worked diligently at packing everything up and shipping them out, it might be possible that some one might get a delivery today at the earliest.   

 

Maybe folks will check in here and confirm that one arrived and share a few pictures as well.

I was not at Indy but two friends were and saw the Challengers. They reported that they a beautiful models with two minor problems appearance wise. The tender coupler is installed upside down and therefore the knuckle is on the wrong side. The other problem is that there is no whistle cord to activate the whistle. Can't wait for a operations report. Ed

Originally Posted by brasman:

 The other problem is that there is no whistle cord to activate the whistle. Can't wait for a operations report. Ed

Having been on top of UP 3985 many, many times, there really is no "whistle cord". As best as I can remember, there is a cable & rod arrangement UNDER the jacket, that runs from the cab linkage to the whistle itself. Thus, you only see a very short piece of cable/rod that comes out from under the jacket and connects to the whistle valve lever.

Originally Posted by bob2:

Well, here's hoping that works!  I would never buy a model without a functioning whistle actuation system.

Now THAT'S interesting. What do you do on Southern Pacific GS class "Daylights" that had AIR OPERATED whistles (the Engineer had two nice little brass handles about waist height; one for the air horn, and the other one for the steam whistle)? Do you have a small compressed air tank inside the boiler?

What would the rivet counters do if the importers stopped bringing in these state of the art models? I seriously doubt that any of the legitimate buyers of this model are going to pass because of  a couple of minor details, although the steam era is not my choice I give Kohs a lot of credit for getting a production model[100 models per George] to this level of detailing. The Key units will most likely improve on this model[at a greater price of course]JM2cents

Originally Posted by hibar:

What would the rivet counters do if the importers stopped bringing in these state of the art models? I seriously doubt that any of the legitimate buyers of this model are going to pass because of  a couple of minor details, although the steam era is not my choice I give Kohs a lot of credit for getting a production model[100 models per George] to this level of detailing. The Key units will most likely improve on this model[at a greater price of course]JM2cents

When one pays thousands of dollars for a model, the tolerance for mistakes is very small. JM2cents

 

 

Larry

Originally Posted by hibar:

What would the rivet counters do if the importers stopped bringing in these state of the art models? I seriously doubt that any of the legitimate buyers of this model are going to pass because of  a couple of minor details, although the steam era is not my choice I give Kohs a lot of credit for getting a production model[100 models per George] to this level of detailing. The Key units will most likely improve on this model[at a greater price of course]JM2cents

Look at all the wailing and gnashing of teeth that goes on the 3 rail side about Lionel not installing swinging bells and smoking whistles of far lower priced locomotives...

 

Rusty

These are beautiful/highly detailed models and I hope everyone that ordered one is very happy with them.

 

However I have a hard time justifying this model over a similar brass model made by Sunset 3rd Rail ( which even include sound and smoke).  Especially an anniversary edition like my Northern Pacific Z5.

 

What do you think?

 

 

Originally Posted by daylight:

These are beautiful/highly detailed models and I hope everyone that ordered one is very happy with them.

 

However I have a hard time justifying this model over a similar brass model made by Sunset 3rd Rail ( which even include sound and smoke).  Especially an anniversary edition like my Northern Pacific Z5.

 

What do you think?

 

 

I didn't realize that Sunset Models installed smoke units AND sound electronics in their 2-Rail products.

The Kohs is an exquisite museum quality model - the Sunset a nicely detailed good running layout quality model. Side by side close up the differences would be very noticeable.  Running 3 feet away I may not notice the differences as the overall appearance of a beautiful model machine in action is what gabs me.  Each to his own value preferences. 

 

I would like to see  both Kohs and Sunset provide bi-modal DC/DCC electronics/sound  in their steam locomotives like the HO importers provide.  If you were to ask me which of the two models I'd like to handle and maintain I'd choose Sunset.  I have a Kohs K4s along with a full page of notes on how to disassemble the chassis from the boiler to install DCC.  It takes a surgeon's hand to connect and disconnect the valve gear actuator to a second motor within the closed bottom of the boiler.

 

Having seen the beautiful running qualities of N&W Chris' several Kohs Y6b's I'd bet the Challenger isn't a shelf queen.  Perhaps some day we'll see a video of a Kohs Challenger in action.

 

Ed Rappe

Last edited by Keystoned Ed

Delighted that such high-end models are being produced.  Could never justify the expense or hassle.

 

My other hobbies are automobiles and airplanes.  My 1965 mustang convertible cost $200 way back when, and provides transportation to the airport.  A $200,000 Mazerati could do the same thing a bit more elegantly.

 

I occasionally fly a Mooney to pick up my glider buddy.  I can go from here to Salt Lake in three hours.  The Mooney is worth $80 grand.  I could do the same thing in a Cirrus for $600 grand, but it burns way more fuel, and if it gets a door ding, it requires factory engineering approval for the repair.

 

In short, there are choices to be made, and if you have unlimited funds, the choices become slightly easier.

Originally Posted by Hot Water:
Originally Posted by daylight:

These are beautiful/highly detailed models and I hope everyone that ordered one is very happy with them.

 

However I have a hard time justifying this model over a similar brass model made by Sunset 3rd Rail ( which even include sound and smoke).  Especially an anniversary edition like my Northern Pacific Z5.

 

What do you think?

 

 

I didn't realize that Sunset Models installed smoke units AND sound electronics in their 2-Rail products.


They don't but surprised you missed my main point.

 

I'm sure that the Kohs model is superior in detail

 

but $5500.00 is a bit steep for an O Gauge scale model.

 

Would I like to have one; sure I would.

 

 

 

 

Originally Posted by phill:

...

For that kind of money one can have a fleet of Atlas masterline engines.  

...

Phill

And if I were a steam fan I would rather have one Kohs Challenger or Key Cab forward than two fleets of Atlas Masterline.

 

But,  I'm a Diesel/Electric fan and I would rather have 3 Overland SD70ACes than 10 Lionel or 100 MTH SD70ACes.

 

Quantity gets me nothing more than more required space.

 

Richard

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