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Thanks Jay, I'm not sure if they are spoked or not... I ordered a set that closely matched the Niagara from Precision Scale Company, yet the way they would mount to the frame of the loco doesn't quite look correct.  The ones I ordered were from an A class articulated...  PSC DID show the model number and pictures for the Niagara trucks, but apparently doesn't stock them nor produce them any longer.  Let me know what you have.  Not sure how to upload pictures, as I am new to the OGR forum, otherwise I would show you what I'm looking for.

Joe, thanks again for the information regarding the elephant ears.  I may just look into the Lionel offered ones.   I am eager to upgrade it to Proto 3 and add it on to my roster of DCS engines.  It has simply a straight DC can motor and that's it!  No lights, no nothing.... it runs SMOOTH and quiet and oh the detail!!!  The backhead alone is stunning.

 

Thank you all for your help in my pursuit!  

My 3rd Rail Mohawk was missing the smoke deflectors. I used a set from its sister engine to make molds and cast them in resin. I considered fabricating them in brass but the rivet detail is very fine and on both sides pretty much ruling out embossing them. I also considered photo etching but thought I would try casting them first. I was surprised that I was able to cast them in virtually the same thickness and also they have some flexibility so stand up to normal handling without breaking.

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The resin ones are on the left. The ones in photo have since been replaced with thinner ones.

Unfortunately the Mohawk versions differ enough from the ones the Niagara that I don't think they would be usable, otherwise i would make you a set.

If you know someone with a KTM model they could be used as a master. The process is non destructive though might require repainting. I used rattle can paint to repaint mine.

Pete

 

 

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Rick,

I'm going to attach a close-up photo, from the Spotter's Guide, of the trailing truck you need.  I'm also going to attach a photo of a USH truck that is about the closest I have.  The biggest fault I can find is the lack of outside brake cylinder.  I suppose you could add one....your call.  Do you have the shouldered screw for mounting the truck?

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 I would add to Norton's post to look at the rivet decals that can easily be applied, then painted or cleared over to protect them. Maybe easier than trying an embossing method if you chose plain brass sheets?

 I am impressed by his copies and how good they look. 

 I think the Niagara ones have a third hole down low for mounting? It's been a long time since I looked at it. I got the Lionel version and never drilled any holes in my Niagara for mounting them. I may just try a little hot melt or tape on them to see if I like them first. I forgot about them.

Wow this forum and everyones' helpful ideas are amazing!  Sorry for the delay getting back with everyone- I was attending a weekly train lunch with a bunch of O scalers in cincinnati.  Bob- I have a set of the Lobaugh trucks already.  If I'm unsuccessful I will be using these with a bit of "creative engineering". 

Mike- I have been in touch with Precision Scale as well.  They were the ones that sold me the A-4 truck (closest cousin I could find).  I will keep after them.

Jay- I think those trucks you have would work great.  How could I possibly  acquire these from you?  I would like to give them a try!

And the elephant ears, wow!  Great job casting them!  Wish I could hire someone to do that for me... That's a realm I have yet to dive into.....

And yes I think I have the "shouldered screw" bought one from PSC... I "think" it will fit unless you have one with your other trucks....

Rick

 

Yes, they did to me last year anyways.

https://www.lionelsupport.com/...55-8273-459eba514c2a

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The items Joe posted are in stock at Lionel and available to anyone. Follow the link posted. It is easy to navigate.

Here is a picture of the Lionel Niagara on the left next to a 3rd Rail engine. The Die Cast smoke deflectors are obviously thicker but they are also easily obtainable.

The 3rd Rail engine has since been renumbered facilitated by number plates from Precision Scale. They offer a set from 6000-6010 for small money.

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