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Originally Posted by rtr12:
Originally Posted by zak98:

thanks rtr12,  I did a similar thing with the brackets. moving off of just the top of legs. I will have to run over to local home depot / lowes / ace to see what options they have for metal brackets. I am interested in the transformer shelves as well, but not sure how they would attach to an existing leg(s)? thanks for the pics and the explanation!

 

The transformer cart comes with wheels and is a separate, free standing thing. I ordered an extra shelf for that one too.

 

 

Originally Posted by jpc:

morning mike

 

you are making great progress

 

a question about the mianne bench work, it looks like the four foot width of a plywood sheet does not completely cover the the depth of the bench work - are the outer edges of the rails and the hex shaped legs depth four feet exactly - is this a problem if you try to max the coverage of the plywood (for example - a 4/8 plywood sheet would not completely cover the 4/8 footprint of the benchwork)

 

i am trying to figure out if you need to speck the mianne product a little less than four feet wide

 

thank you

 

j

The Mianne bench work is made for the plywood to fit in the center of the legs and cross pieces. If you order a 4'x8' Mianne kit it will be 4' center to center of the legs and cross pieces. Same with the 8' length. I have about 7/8" at the legs and 3/8" at the cross pieces. The advantage is if you ever want to add on you can just go from there without having to change anything. It wasn't a problem for me and won't be as I plan to add on to my original kit.

 

The only time this might be a problem is if you were trying to fit it exactly between two fixed walls or other items. In that case I would call Mianne and talk with them about the sizes and the space you are trying to fit. They are very helpful. 

thanks j, exactly what rtr12 said.....  and my table is 6' wide. so I had home depot rip one 4x8 sheet into (s) 2x8' sheets.  I just have not installed them yet.i may have to trim a bit as I have a small drywall section that covers a pole. so it may be a little too tight for the 2 x 8' wide section to just drop in. not sure.  going to try that out this weekend probably see how it al fits.

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Zac,

I have not read very much of this thread but I wanted to say I am there with you, buddy.

Taking down the Munoz Lines was monumental and I planned it as a modular railroad, too. Things happen along the way. Now, two and a half tons (Yes, TONS) of debris later, little is left. Our lower level is now empty. All done with a plan in mind. One day, the Munoz will rise again. 

 

As you said, no wasted hours of construction (five years for me), just enjoyment.

You Go, Zac !

 

Scrapiron Scher

I would be willing to bet that the vast majority of layouts never even reach the finished scenery stage before getting torn down. That's a pretty sobering thought...  One of my pet peeves is looking at an unfinished "plywood prairie". Honestly, if I knew that my layout would get torn down before the scenery was complete I wouldn't even bother building it. It is all good learning experience, but I've torn down several layouts that never got finished and I am bound and determined to finish my next layout. If I'm not reasonably sure it can be accomplished I won't even start.

hey jonathan,

 

thanks for the comments.  to a point I agree with you.  all of my layouts have got to the point of 80% in scenery in some way. (not sure I have ever "finished" a layout, really.)  I enjoy getting to that point.  my intent is always to get to that point so I will always start something.  but I am sure there are people out there that get enjoyment out of just running trains.  plywood  or scenery just running or operating meets their needs and wants.  I am fine with either way, really.  its your money, your time and your hobby. do what makes you happiest and let people say what they will. 

Hi all,

 

I've added a few new sections under the "construction" bullet item at the left side of my webpage.  there are a few new pictures there.  Mianne delivered the shelving for my control station area, this week. I have been laying track. Altoona Models delivered the roundhouse kit as well.  

 

i hope everyone is enjoying a good summer modeling season!  

 

http://michaelluczak.com/construction_of_gnprr

 

mike

hi ted,

 

the GPM engine is fantastic.  would be great for switching and locals.  just put a kadee (or your fav coupler mfg) on the pilot and off you go.  dcc or dc the engine runs wonderful.  i have seen a couple on eBay recently for sale.  jimmy (GPM) brought in two numbers.  1369 and 1374. 

hi all,

 

the roundhouse is about 90%.  still some weathering and details to finish up.  i have been working on getting DCC into several engines. 

 

NP W3

NP W5

GN M2

 

all the new econami, from soundtraxx.

 

there are a few videos out on my youtube page.  (link below)  just quick "shorts", a minute or so.

 

have a great fall modeling season!

 

mike

As of last week, the Youngstown & Southern is no more.

I take comfort knowing it gave me years of pleasure, and was honored to have it grace the pages of O Gauge Railroading, Railroad Model Craftsman, and Model Railroader.

Part of it goes to other railroads, some of it is gone forever. Who knows what lies ahead.

The past was fabulous.

 

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Paul Lally posted:

As of last week, the Youngstown & Southern is no more.

Would you mind explaining why it's no more? I'm always curious why layouts get destroyed (the intentional destructions, that is, not accidents). Those photos were very impressive. I can't imagine tearing down a layout that nice...

jpc posted:

do people consider how to initially construct the layout such that it is easier to take down (move or sell) 

i have seen some beautiful layouts for sale and when you dig down, you realize that they cannot be moved without a tremendous amount of work in the take down and rebuild (that 100 hours you spent on the construction is not worth much on a resale) 

I thought long and hard about that, too. So I built my own layout in a similar manner as I would for a module group. The seams between the sections aren't obvious at all as the scenery was made right over top of them. But if they layout ever had to move, I'd just snip and mark the electrical wires, Dremel through the rails at the gaps, and cut through the scenery at the gaps in sections with a sharp knife and I think I could put it back together in another location relatively easily. I even made the legs removable and made the sections very light, with 1X4s and 1/4" plywood for the benchwork.

If I decide to chunk it all in a dumpster later because I just want to start over, that's one thing. I just didn't want that to be my only option if I ever had to move.

p51 posted:
Paul Lally posted:

As of last week, the Youngstown & Southern is no more.

Would you mind explaining why it's no more? I'm always curious why layouts get destroyed (the intentional destructions, that is, not accidents). Those photos were very impressive. I can't imagine tearing down a layout that nice...

This is my third major layout. Two HO and one O. I reached a level of completeness that satisfied me. And after about two years of operation I realized the party was over. Either I will "graduate" to G Scale remains a question. Like soil that's been planted over and over, it needs to lay fallow for a while. This will happen with my "train room." We'll see what "sprouts."

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