LC+ 2.0 big boy overhang o31

Well, the LC+ 2.0 BB has both trucks articulated, so you're not going to have anything like the overhang that the scale BB would have.  If you have your track an inch from the walls, you should be quite safe.

Great to know. Thank you gunrunnerjohn.

Your replies to all my questions the past year have been so appreciated. This forum and people like you with your knowledge and willing to help others is what keeps me in and growing in this hobby. I know there are many others but I always hope and look forward to you replying to one of my posts or questions.

Thank you,

Brad

This question got my curiosity going. As luck would have it, I had some 031 track I was fooling with and the LC +2.0 was sitting on a nearby shelf. I plan to run mine on 042 and 054 but here are some shots of what it looks like on 031.  This was hand placed and was not running.  I was surprised at the swing of the back end... about 2-2.5" -but it makes sense when you see where the back drive truck is located,  otherwise, the pictures show  one inch is a good estimate for other BB areas  and depending on where your wall is located.

WOW, I'm glad you did that.  I've done that experiment with the MTH Railking and it didn't have that much overhang.

@B rad posted:

Great to know. Thank you gunrunnerjohn.

Your replies to all my questions the past year have been so appreciated. This forum and people like you with your knowledge and willing to help others is what keeps me in and growing in this hobby. I know there are many others but I always hope and look forward to you replying to one of my posts or questions.

Thank you,

Brad

Maybe you shouldn't be so trusting, I'm glad someone had one that could actually measure.  I'm shocked at the overhang, better increase the distance from that wall!

Thanks guys, I'm probably 2 inches away now plus the road bed adds a little more so I should be fine. If anything I'll only have to move it a very minimal amount. I was actually worried it would overhang 4 to 5 inches so I'm pretty excited.

Thank you for the time you put into that for me hokie71

Brad

I currently don't have any of these beasts in my roster, although I liked too.  Overhang and cost in that order are holding me back.  I know I have clearance issues on my 096 run, maybe not on my 088.  Anyone have a x-y matrix listing clearance required by beast vs track size ?

@shorling posted:

I currently don't have any of these beasts in my roster, although I liked too.  Overhang and cost in that order are holding me back.  I know I have clearance issues on my 096 run, maybe not on my 088.  Anyone have a x-y matrix listing clearance required by beast vs track size ?

Remember, the larger the curve, the less overhang that you'll have on any locomotive.  I have an O90 curve on my second level and a post that's 3.5" from the centerline of the track.  The biggest overhang of my fleet seems to be the MTH Premier Big Boy at about 3.25", and it clears the post easily.  The next guy that's about as close is the C&O Coal Turbine, at 26" long, it's the longest locomotive steam or diesel that I have.

I suspect you'd find that the LC+ 2.0 Big Boy would have no issues at all on your wider curves.

@gunrunnerjohn posted:

Remember, the larger the curve, the less overhang that you'll have on any locomotive.  I have an O90 curve on my second level and a post that's 3.5" from the centerline of the track.  The biggest overhang of my fleet seems to be the MTH Premier Big Boy at about 3.25", and it clears the post easily.  The next guy that's about as close is the C&O Coal Turbine, at 26" long, it's the longest locomotive steam or diesel that I have.

I suspect you'd find that the LC+ 2.0 Big Boy would have no issues at all on your wider curves.

I have a store front that protrudes towards the 096 rails on a curve and my Lionel Berk clears by a thread.

Well, in that case, every articulated locomotive in your stable is liable to clear that store front right off the layout!

@gunrunnerjohn posted:

Well, in that case, every articulated locomotive in your stable is liable to clear that store front right off the layout!

yes, that could account for why I have no articulated loco's.   Maybe someday on my 088 when I get more data.

My second level mainline loop is flex track, roughly O90 diameter.  My 3.5" from center track clearance is enough for all my locomotives, at least all that I've tried.  I've run most of the big articulated locomotives as well as the aforementioned C&O Coal Turbine, and they all made it around without clipping the post at 3.5".  I really don't anticipate any larger locomotives showing up that would challenge that post.

@gunrunnerjohn posted:

My second level mainline loop is flex track, roughly O90 diameter.  My 3.5" from center track clearance is enough for all my locomotives, at least all that I've tried.  I've run most of the big articulated locomotives as well as the aforementioned C&O Coal Turbine, and they all made it around without clipping the post at 3.5".  I really don't anticipate any larger locomotives showing up that would challenge that post.

GRJ,  Thanks for the info.  I'll have to check the 3.5" clearance from the center rail on my 088 run.  I have other potential runs but at smaller diameters.  There are tunnel, IR sensor, 450 signal bridge, etc clearances to consider.

Yep, the 3.5" is the universal if you're on the curve, it applies to anything closer than that.

I have a 2010 model year Lionel Big Boy #4006 LionMaster, so same semi-scale size as the LC +2.0 Big Boy. Here's a photo of the loco in an O36 curve. On my layout it will tap a couple of trees with a 2 inch overhang at the cab. The front has very little overhang. On my layout only the middle loop is 036, the rest of the layout is 048 and my Big Boy looks less ridiculous on 048.

That cab really does stick out!   On the scale BB, the boiler sticks out the farthest on curves.  Of course, I never tested it on O36, it won't even make it around O60!

@hokie71 posted:

This question got my curiosity going. As luck would have it, I had some 031 track I was fooling with and the LC +2.0 was sitting on a nearby shelf. I plan to run mine on 042 and 054 but here are some shots of what it looks like on 031.  This was hand placed and was not running.  I was surprised at the swing of the back end... about 2-2.5" -but it makes sense when you see where the back drive truck is located,  otherwise, the pictures show  one inch is a good estimate for other BB areas  and depending on where your wall is located.

Reminds me of PCC making a turn.

Brad - great engine - you will be very happy with it!

Here's mine on some 0-72.

I can relate to this!!  Constructed my layout using 0-36 curves, completed the scenery (tunnels, telegraph poles, trees, etc) with never a thought that I would one day own a Big Boy engine.  After watching the videos of the 4014 prototype, I was HOOKED!   Ended up buying the LC+ version and **** - that overhang is ridiculous on 0-36!!  Considerable renovations had to be made on the right of way - utility poles relocated, trees uprooted.  Luckily the monster barely cleared some structures that would have been a real pain to move such as signals and a floodlight tower.  But I wasn't as lucky with my tunnel. I had to trim the opening on one of the portals in addition to the internal cavity (fortunately I had rear access thru the back of the mountain).

Next layout will be 0-54 MIN !

I'm not really familiar with all the BB variations.  Simply there is/was Lionel and MTH, scale or not scale.  That's four variations right there, the not scale being lower cost.  Which of these variations would minimize the overhang on 088 track?  My outside mainline is 096 and there would be interferences.  But my adjacent mainline is 088 and looks like it might tolerate an overhang.  Truth be known, I would rather have a cab forward.