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We have the Legacy 990 system and like it. We also have a good library of Fastrack and their CC switches.

Planning on buying the wifi interface as I can see a benefit of the LCS iPad and iCab interfaces. 

However, I'm not really seeing a great benefit of the sensor track. Only one of our Legacy locos has the IR trigger in the bottom. 

Any feedback from those who currently have the sensor track (or multiple sensor tracks) incorporated into their layout would be greatly appreciated.

 

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I especially like running a new engine with IR or friends' engines over it to load all the info into the base. Great for get together train nights. And the programming features are fun to create if you have more than just a loop, running a route adding some interest to running.

I like 'em.  I have a couple that I use to trigger events around the layout including accessories.  I use the record function more than anything.  I can trigger just about anything from all my locomotives or just a particular locomotive.

 

I suspect the folks that use them in this manor are getting more out of them than those just having it blow the whistle.

Marty,

When using their record function, does the presence of multiple sensor tracks help to ensure that the recording playback stays in perfect sync, as far as accurate loco position in concerned?

 

Meaning, do you get a much more accurate recording and playback compared to just using the record function on the CAB-2 remote?

 

My experiences have been good as far as that is concerned.  Granted I only have a loop without grades.
 
As long as the speed you are entering the ST is the same as when the recording was made when entering the ST or you make the speed set part of the recording before activating other events that are required to trigger based on locomotive locations then it does seem to do a pretty good job.
 
Again I am limited to what I have but ran a recording playback for a half hour with stops at a water tower.  The engine stopped consistently within an inch each time.  Also used layout reference points to fire the whistle, bell, and other accessories to operate and again they seemed to be accurate with in an inch or so.
 
 
 
Originally Posted by graz:

Marty,

When using their record function, does the presence of multiple sensor tracks help to ensure that the recording playback stays in perfect sync, as far as accurate loco position in concerned?

 

Meaning, do you get a much more accurate recording and playback compared to just using the record function on the CAB-2 remote?

 

 

 

 

The novelty seems to have worn out for me.

I have two that I have yet to install, because I still need to  see how they solve a problem.

If there was a way to install sensors to the sides of the track ( with the sensor slipped between the ties) and these were inexpensive enough so that I could have say 30 of them placed around the layout to control a wide variety of accessories, signals and crossing gates as well as locate the engines (and other cars) anywhere on the layout displayed on an iPad; I would buy thirty(30) in a minute!

I have 6 legacy locos and only 2 have the sensor.  I picked up sensor track earlier this year to take advantage of Lionel's $10 rebate (which gets the price to a better point).

I think it is worth it to see the fuel update on the remote alone.  It is also cool with the iPad.  I would suggest getting one, it certainly is worth the cost to experiment.

I have 7 of them on my layout I use  the ipad to control my mth and lionel  accessory and my switches and my legacy locos  I love it they work great and have had no issues with the system the one thing like most people would like to see something to be done to adapt it to some other track I want to use something other than fastrack something more scale like

I think we had this conversation before but there is no problem to solve.  It's a play value addition.  I use mine in various ways to enhance my personal enjoyment.  Of course your mileage may vary.
 
And they operate accessories with additional hardware so I can see your point on cost.  Of course with anything in this day and age it's quite possible they'll be able to do everything you want it to do eventually.
 
Originally Posted by AlanRail:

 

 

The novelty seems to have worn out for me.

I have two that I have yet to install, because I still need to  see how they solve a problem.

If there was a way to install sensors to the sides of the track ( with the sensor slipped between the ties) and these were inexpensive enough so that I could have say 30 of them placed around the layout to control a wide variety of accessories, signals and crossing gates as well as locate the engines (and other cars) anywhere on the layout displayed on an iPad; I would buy thirty(30) in a minute!

 

Originally Posted by AlanRail:

 

 

The novelty seems to have worn out for me.

I have two that I have yet to install, because I still need to  see how they solve a problem.

If there was a way to install sensors to the sides of the track ( with the sensor slipped between the ties) and these were inexpensive enough so that I could have say 30 of them placed around the layout to control a wide variety of accessories, signals and crossing gates as well as locate the engines (and other cars) anywhere on the layout displayed on an iPad; I would buy thirty(30) in a minute!

If we understand this correctly, say a layout with 3 grade crossings on a 3 track main line. This would require 18 sensors to activate the grade crossing sounds from Legacy IR equipped engines? 

$95 x 18 + the $40 cable is over $1,700 list price sans wires between units correct? That is a steep entry fee and then we'd have to hack them out of Fastrack sections? What do you early Legacy purchasers whose engines are not IR equipped do? Had considered one for guests, should it have been offered in a "loose" option as well?

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Yep
 
The current setup could be expensive depending on how much you want to get into it.
 
There has been discussing on making a boxcar or other car that could be added to an engine without the sensor.  Basically assigned as the same ID.
 
Originally Posted by Lima:
Originally Posted by AlanRail:

 

 

The novelty seems to have worn out for me.

I have two that I have yet to install, because I still need to  see how they solve a problem.

If there was a way to install sensors to the sides of the track ( with the sensor slipped between the ties) and these were inexpensive enough so that I could have say 30 of them placed around the layout to control a wide variety of accessories, signals and crossing gates as well as locate the engines (and other cars) anywhere on the layout displayed on an iPad; I would buy thirty(30) in a minute!

If we understand this correctly, say a layout with 3 grade crossings on a 3 track main line. This would require 18 sensors to activate the grade crossing sounds from Legacy IR equipped engines? 

$95 x 18 + the $40 cable is over $1,700 list price sans wires between units correct? That is a steep entry fee and then we'd have to hack them out of Fastrack sections? What do you early Legacy purchasers whose engines are not IR equipped do? Had considered one for guests, should it have been offered in a "loose" option as well?

 

Originally Posted by MartyE:
Yep
 
The current setup could be expensive depending on how much you want to get into it.
 
There has been discussing on making a boxcar or other car that could be added to an engine without the sensor.  Basically assigned as the same ID.
 
Originally Posted by Lima:
Originally Posted by AlanRail:

 

 

The novelty seems to have worn out for me.

I have two that I have yet to install, because I still need to  see how they solve a problem.

If there was a way to install sensors to the sides of the track ( with the sensor slipped between the ties) and these were inexpensive enough so that I could have say 30 of them placed around the layout to control a wide variety of accessories, signals and crossing gates as well as locate the engines (and other cars) anywhere on the layout displayed on an iPad; I would buy thirty(30) in a minute!

If we understand this correctly, say a layout with 3 grade crossings on a 3 track main line. This would require 18 sensors to activate the grade crossing sounds from Legacy IR equipped engines? 

$95 x 18 + the $40 cable is over $1,700 list price sans wires between units correct? That is a steep entry fee and then we'd have to hack them out of Fastrack sections? What do you early Legacy purchasers whose engines are not IR equipped do? Had considered one for guests, should it have been offered in a "loose" option as well?

 

It would be interesting if Lionel would extend this product series to include simple remote IR sensors that plug into a given programmed sensor track. A little narrow strip with the two direction sensitive IR receivers.

 

I would buy thirty(30) in a  NEW YORK minute!

 

See correction above; as opposed to a "Chicago minute" which is way longer!!

 

I see the sensor track as a gross solution to the "locate the train on the track and do something" problem.

 

A more sensible solution is a much smaller wireless WiFi or bluetooth transceiver inserted between the ties that reads the engine or car's IR signature and transmits the info to the iPad or other device instructing an action.

 

And power it the way you would power any other accessory.

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