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Is anyone having trouble connecting their LCS Wi-Fi module to their router in Join To Network mode?  The one I had for years, stopped connecting.  I sent it back to Lionel and they sent me a brand new one, which has the same problem.   The Access Point mode works fine.  I don't know if it is a problem with the LCS Wi-Fi module or something on my end.  Does anyone have any suggestions?

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This problem has been discussed at length with no clear cut answers.  Most can connect via access point, however joining the network is less of a success story for a lot of us.  My module used to connect but for several weeks now I can only use access point.  It sees the network and goes through the early motions of connecting, however it never completes the process.  You're not the odd man out.  There are many having this issue.

Bruce 

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Thank you for your reply.

I am a Lionel LCS Partner.  Lionel is going to take my first non-working unit and try to figure out what the problem is.  They will receive it on Tuesday. Hopefully they can fix it and tell me what to do to get my new non-working unit working again.  As soon as I hear something I will post.

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Harvy posted:

Thank you for your reply.

I am a Lionel LCS Partner.  Lionel is going to take my first non-working unit and try to figure out what the problem is.  They will receive it on Tuesday. Hopefully they can fix it and tell me what to do to get my new non-working unit working again.  As soon as I hear something I will post.

Thanks!  Will look forward to your reply.

 

Harvy

I've been using the same WiFi box for years without issue connecting to a router BUT to be 100% transparent, that wireless router is stand alone and has no internet connection.  I use it only for train related WiFi device such as DCS, Ipads, and such.  I have never connected it to a true fully intenet enabled router.  Not sure that makes a difference.  Also the router is an older Netgear router they were tossing at work. 

Marty,

I have seen your previous posts on this and have tried the stand alone network with a couple of different routers.  I still can't get it to work and suspect it is the module that has failed since it once worked OK.  It's three years old, so out of warranty.  Be interested to see Lionel's response to Harvey once they receive his module. 

Maybe a good question for the LUG meeting at York.  It's not a meet that is convenient for me to attend, however I always watch the video and recap of the LUG meeting.  Thanks for doing this!

Bruce

I had the same problem.  I had three different routers I tried to connect it to, none connected.  When Verizon upgraded my router to their latest model, suddenly I could connect to that router.  I could connect other devices using WPS no problem, even the MTH WiFi unit.  For some reason, the Lionel unit just didn't want to connect.

IMO, it was a significant mistake in the design of the Lionel WiFi not to have a fallback connection option where you could use a wired connection to get in and configure.

MartyE posted:

Harvy

I've been using the same WiFi box for years without issue connecting to a router BUT to be 100% transparent, that wireless router is stand alone and has no internet connection.  I use it only for train related WiFi device such as DCS, Ipads, and such.  I have never connected it to a true fully intenet enabled router.  Not sure that makes a difference.  Also the router is an older Netgear router they were tossing at work. 

Thank you.  It shouldn't matter if you have an Internet connection or not.  You are able to connect to a router and that means Join To Network mode works for you.

gunrunnerjohn posted:

I had the same problem.  I had three different routers I tried to connect it to, none connected.  When Verizon upgraded my router to their latest model, suddenly I could connect to that router.  I could connect other devices using WPS no problem, even the MTH WiFi unit.  For some reason, the Lionel unit just didn't want to connect.

IMO, it was a significant mistake in the design of the Lionel WiFi not to have a fallback connection option where you could use a wired connection to get in and configure.

I too can connect another device via WPS.  Just not the LCS Wi-Fi module.

gunrunnerjohn posted:

That too Marty, I use a wired connection whenever it is possible.  I hear all about how good WiFi has gotten, but give me a wire anytime I can use one.

I like wires too!! The only thing I use wifi for is my ipad, iphone etc. I don't have the Lionel Wifi unit, but I do have the MTH unit, but have not tried to connect it to my home network. I really have not used it that much so far either. I still like the remotes...a creature of habit I guess and an old one at that! I did finally get an iphone though, so there is still hope. 

rtr12 posted:

I certainly see where developing with all the connection problems would be a problem. That would be a real pain. I was just preferring the wired connections over wifi. Was also just agreeing with MartyE and GRJ about leaving wired network ports off of the LCS wifi device. Maybe Lionel will be able to come up with a solution for you soon.

I hope they can find a solution too.  Thank you.  Yes, it would be nice to have an Ethernet port on the LCS Wi-Fi module as a backup.

I imagine they will find a solution, they have some pretty knowledgeable folks there. As a partner it might be good to suggest they add a wired network port to their devices. Not that it will ever be added, but can't hurt to suggest and it's a good idea too, IMO. Maybe MartyE and GRJ will offer the same suggestion at York as well, if they haven't already. 

rtr12 posted:

I imagine they will find a solution, they have some pretty knowledgeable folks there. As a partner it might be good to suggest they add a wired network port to their devices. Not that it will ever be added, but can't hurt to suggest and it's a good idea too, IMO. Maybe MartyE and GRJ will offer the same suggestion at York as well, if they haven't already. 

I'm waiting for Rudy at Lionel to get it.  The Return Authorization sent it to Concord, NC.  Then they are supposed to send it to Rudy in Santa Clara, CA.  I would think he should have it by now, but I know everyone in that office is very busy.  I'm not sure when they will have time to look at it.  I can bring up the idea of adding an Ethernet port, but I know they monitor this forum.  They probably did not add an Ethernet port to keep the cost down.

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I doubt we'll see an Ethernet port at this stage.  However, they could change the firmware to have a default client configuration when the WiFi unit is reset.  Since there's no "factory reset", at least in the manual, the "reset" could be a sequence of button pushes on the WPS Enable button to invoke the default client configuration.  This allows the change to be software only and solves the problem of WPS not connecting.

gunrunnerjohn posted:

I doubt we'll see an Ethernet port at this stage.  However, they could change the firmware to have a default client configuration when the WiFi unit is reset.  Since there's no "factory reset", at least in the manual, the "reset" could be a sequence of button pushes on the WPS Enable button to invoke the default client configuration.  This allows the change to be software only and solves the problem of WPS not connecting.

How would you load the firmware?  RA to Lionel?  Could it be done via wireless?  Just curious as my firmware upgrades on other products have not always gone well, although the Cab 2 upgrades have always been successful.  

Bruce

I upgraded from a Verizon router a couple of months back.  I was able to connect to the Verizon router with no issue.  I, the other day went to use the Legacy Utility and found I was not connected. I had not used the utility since acquiring a new Asus RT-AC3100. Using WPS as explained in the Lionel Manual and they connected right up. Remember it connects as some obscure name. Also mine connected on the 2.4 Gig channel.  I think it registered as McBain something something. 

gunrunnerjohn posted:

I had the same experience.  When I went from the older Verizon router (red front panel) to the latest "wedge shaped" masterpiece from Verizon, I finally was able to connect.  I had previously tried three other routers, including the older Verizon router.

IMO, it simply shouldn't be this hard to connect to the WiFi box!

This one? Verizon Fios G1100 Quantum 

or this one...  Verizon Novatel T1114 Broadband Router

Harvy posted:
Dave Olson posted:
Harvy posted:

I'm waiting for Rudy at Lionel to get it.  The Return Authorization sent it to Concord, NC.  Then they are supposed to send it to Rudy in Santa Clara, CA.

I sent it to Rudy. He should get it today.

Thank you very much, Dave. 

See @rtr12.  I told you you Lionel monitors this forum.

Yes, I see. I think it's nice to see the manufacturers participate! 

As you and GRJ also said above, probably too late for the Ethernet port though. I am sure they had their reasons during design. Doesn't hurt to ask...

After fooling around with it more, it looks like when you put it in Join to Network mode, it totally shuts off the wifi.  The green LED should be flashing, but its not. It's not that it can't connect to my router, it's that it isn't even visible by my router.  It's no longer broadcasting at all.

I also tried a different Comcast router.

 

gunrunnerjohn posted:

It's VERY picky about the router, the only one I've ever joined the network with is the new Verizon one.  FWIW, mine connects and my iPad running LCS is able to operate the switches and trains.

I don't think my router is the problem.  It's the LCS Wi-Fi module itself.  It is not broadcasting.  Therefore, no router will be able to find it.

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gunrunnerjohn posted:

That's different, are you saying you get nothing when you press the WPS button?

In my router's admin page I can't see the LCS wifi module.  I should be able to see the device whether it is connected or not.  The green LED does not flash when you put it in Join to Network mode.  It should be flashing at a medium rate.  It is just off.  When I hold down the WPS button, the green LED does flash very fast, but that really means nothing because it is still not broadcasting. 

gunrunnerjohn posted:

Harvy, the proof is in the connection.  If it doesn't connect, something isn't working right.  Does your router have a site survey feature?  You can see if the WiFi is active when it's in Access Point mode, that will verify if the transmitter works.  Here's mine The point is that it doesn't work in Join to Network mode.  I already know it works in Access Point mode.   I can connect in that mode.

I don't know if my router has that function.  Can you show me this screen in Join to Network mode?

I already know Access Point mode works.  I can connect in that mode, but I don't want to.  I'm pretty sure it stops transmitting in Join to Network mode.

Maybe I can find an app for my phone that can tell me if it is transmitting. 

Thank you for your help.

gunrunnerjohn posted:

With it connected in Join Network mode, I don't see the network, but the light is blinking all the time on the WiFi module.

It's connected and I can see it on the iPad now.

Thank you.  My light does not blink at all anymore in Join to Network mode.  Something has to be wrong with it.  This is the second one Lionel has sent me with this problem.

I had the same experience, and it turned out to be the router compatibility.  Three routers wouldn't connect to either of the units, when I upgraded FiOS to the current speed, the new router magically connects in network mode to the WiFi.

Same indications, no activity at all on the wireless activity LED.  I'd get the fast flashing, and then nothing.

I personally maintain it's a bug with the WiFi module as the MTH WiFi and several phones and a computer all would connect using WPS to those other routers.  It was pure luck that an upgrade to FiOS provided a new router with the package.

I was unable to find the MAC address of my LCS Wi-Fi module with the tools I have.  I know I had it at one point because it showed up in my router's admin page.  I have an idea.  I can hook up my old router that I don't use anymore since I got Comcast Voice.  Hopefully the LCS Wi-Fi module will be able to connect to that again.  Then hook up my computer to that router and get the MAC address.  Then go back to the Comcast router and try to connect the LCS Wi-Fi module manually using the MAC address.

What you could try to get the MAC address, since you say the device works as an Access Point:

Set the wifi unit as an Access Pont and power on.

From a Windows laptop with wifi, open a command prompt and type:

netsh wlan show networks mode=bssid

this will list all broadcasting wifi access points your laptop’s wifi can see.

SSID # : xxxxx <<< will be the broadcasting access point name

BSSID 1 : will be the MAC address of the access point

 

MrMoe50 posted:

What you could try to get the MAC address, since you say the device works as an Access Point:

Set the wifi unit as an Access Pont and power on.

From a Windows laptop with wifi, open a command prompt and type:

netsh wlan show networks mode=bssid

this will list all broadcasting wifi access points your laptop’s wifi can see.

SSID # : xxxxx <<< will be the broadcasting access point name

BSSID 1 : will be the MAC address of the access point

 

That sounds much easier.  I will try that.

Thank you.

Loose-Caboose posted:

The first three Hexadecimal duos are interesting as they are commonly referred to as the OUI. Mine are the same I guess that these identifiers are assigned to Lionel.

I don't think Lionel actually builds the networking hardware they use. According to Wireshark it looks like they are using equipment from GainSpan Corp.

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I finally executed the following command:  netsh wlan show networks mode=bssid

Here is the output:

I manually added it to my router using the below method:

It now shows up here:

Now, how do I find the IP address so I can connect to it?

It still does not show up under connected devices.

Should I try this method instead?

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I received an email stating that @Loose-Caboose replied, but I don't see it here.  Thank you for your response, but like I mentioned above, it still does not show up in connected devices, which means using the MAC address to manually connect to it did not work.  I'm guessing because the LCS Wi-Fi module is still not broadcasting in Join to Network mode.  I will just have to wait for Lionel to fix it.

@Railsounds regarding your question (in case this info helps)... I have been using the same LCS WiFi module for years now without issue (firmware version 2.3.0). Sometimes it does take a minute or so for the module to establish a connection to the "home network" (i.e. green light blinks once about every four seconds). The green light blinks pretty fast once it's connected to the "home network". And, of course, the green light is solid once a connection is established from a client (i.e. High Rail, LCS App, etc.). Also, I can switch back and forth between "access point" and "home network" modes without issue.

There are times when an LCS module in the LCS chain doesn't properly "start up" when power is turned on. Specifically, an LCS module's red LED light stays lit. When this happens the LCS WiFi module appears to refuse any incoming connection from a client (at least that is my experience). Cycling power once usually resolves this issue. I know we have discussed this in this past, but thought I would bring it up here in case it helps.

 

 

Last night I was finally able to get the green LED on my LCS Wi-FI module to start flashing in Join to Network mode.  Also, my Comcast router/modem is now able to see it.  Unfortunately I was still unable to get it connected via WPS.  However,  I broke out my Linksys router and I was able to get it connected via WPS as I have in the past.  So then I tried to configure my Comcast router/modem as closely as I could to my Linksys router.  Still no luck.  I will try to post screen prints tonight of both router's configurations and maybe someone will see something that is incorrect.  I might end up having to just turn off the Wi-Fi on my Comcast router and use my Linksys router for Wi-Fi instead.

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Harvy, I had two of the non-connecting routers do the same thing.  I'd actually see that the router was recognizing the LCS WiFi, but it would never finish the negotiation and actually connect.  There has to be some timing that's being violated, either in the router or in the LCS WiFi unit I would imagine.  All of the "non-functioning" routers connected fine to the MTH WiFi using WPS and also to my phone with WPS, that's why I tend to point at the LCS WiFi unit.

gunrunnerjohn posted:

Harvy, I had two of the non-connecting routers do the same thing.  I'd actually see that the router was recognizing the LCS WiFi, but it would never finish the negotiation and actually connect.  There has to be some timing that's being violated, either in the router or in the LCS WiFi unit I would imagine.  All of the "non-functioning" routers connected fine to the MTH WiFi using WPS and also to my phone with WPS, that's why I tend to point at the LCS WiFi unit.

As always, thank you for your input.

So, I'm guessing that you don't think any combination of router settings is going to make it connect to my Comcast router/modem at this point, right?  I should just turn off the Wi-Fi on the Comcast router and connect my Linksys router to it and call it a day?

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FWIW, I connected a new LCS WiFi to the Netgear Router I use for the Legacy meeting.  Unfortunately there was so much WiFi in the orange hall, I had a hard time reliably communicating with the module via the router and had issue with command sent to it from the iPad.  Using it in access mode worked fine.

GRJ can verify the humongous amount of WiFi in the orange hall.

Harvy posted:

I was able to put my Comcast Gateway into bridge mode (turn of router and just use as a modem) and connect my Linksys router and get an internet connection.  I was then able to connect my LCS Wi-Fi module via WPS to my Linksys router.  All is good again.

Thank you to everyone for your help.

Maybe I sold dust off all of my old Wireless Access Points and Routers that I didn't throw away for some odd reason. Finally I have an excuse to my wife why being a pack-rat pays off!

cjack posted:

If you first managed your gateway on the app there may be some issues with porting. If you then reset the gateway to original as it first came, and then manage the gateway manually it may work for you.

I don't understand what you are saying.  Anyway, I have already done a factory reset and tried different Comcast Gateways with no luck.

rtr12 posted:

Not sure I would have been able to accomplish what you have done here? I am definitely just mediocre at connecting these things successfully. However, it has been interesting to follow the thread and see that you were able to get things connected. 

Thanks for following along.  It just takes time, patience, research and help from people on this forum.

Patience! Hehe, I would have probably had the hammer out long before you figured it out.  I do agree with you there though, sometimes just keep plugging along and finally something happens (just hide the hammer).

Kidding aside, I am definitely no network expert though and I don't know what half of those router settings even mean. Also with ever follow along I usually learn a little something.

MartyE posted:

Good news. Dave Olson told me a WiFi utility should be coming shortly. Stay tuned. 

This thread has been dormant for a while, however, I assume connecting the WiFi module to the home network is still an issue for many.  I recently purchased a new Linksys router to see if it would connect as a stand alone network, however met with the same results as before.  It shifts into connection mode with the slow blinking light, but the light never turns solid.  It would be good to hear from  @Railsounds  or @daveolsen with respect to any progress or solutions to this continuing problem.

Would Lionel consider a factory exchange or test for those of us who would pay to send the units in for evaluation?  Operating in access point is not an efficient use of this product for me.

Thanks,

Bruce

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Hi Bruce,

I feel your frustration since I am the one who started this thread.  I did send my LCS WiFi module in and they said it was working fine.  The unfortunate bottom line is that it will just not connect to some routers and we just have to live with that.  I ended up putting my Comcast Gateway into bridge mode and going back to my Linksys router.  Everything works fine that way.

Thanks Harvy.  I've tried to connect via my Linksys as a stand alone network with no joy.  Hopefully Lionel will step up to the plate and give us some specifics or support with respect to this problem.  I do not agree that we should just have to live with it, although I understand that out of sight - out of mind is Lionel's philosophy with this module.  We have been living with this modules failure to communicate since it hit the street (no pun intended).

I realize it's intermittent and not everyone has the issue.  I've got 14 WiFi devices connected right now including laptops, IPads, IPhones, Roku streamers, Roku TV, Sonos speakers, printers, etc.  The problem exists within their piece of hardware. It doesn't work consistently across various networks as other WiFi devices do.  They need to fix it or place a large disclaimer on their website.

Bruce

hi unfortunately you have to deal with poor router designs. I purchased a netgear router to access my microcell cell phone booster because I have poor signal reception in my home. low and behold after many phone conversations to at&t  microcell I found out some routers WILL NOT let the proper signals go threw and had to purchase another $200.00 netgear router which fixed all the problems. I don't believe it is Lionel or MTH,S problem it is the router you purchase will not accept certain  protocols required for certain devises such as MTH or Lionel or other connecting  devices!

p.s. I fix computers and have run into many issues with not connection to internets or Bluetooth device. takes time to sort it all out. if I can help anyone here let me know!

I can tell you when I connected my MTH Wi-Fi it took off and worked perfectly the FIRST TIME the way there book said!

thanks MTH for a Great product and excellent support!

Alan  

repair technician posted:

hi unfortunately you have to deal with poor router designs. I purchased a netgear router to access my microcell cell phone booster because I have poor signal reception in my home. low and behold after many phone conversations to at&t  microcell I found out some routers WILL NOT let the proper signals go threw and had to purchase another $200.00 netgear router which fixed all the problems. I don't believe it is Lionel or MTH,S problem it is the router you purchase will not accept certain  protocols required for certain devises such as MTH or Lionel or other connecting  devices!

p.s. I fix computers and have run into many issues with not connection to internets or Bluetooth device. takes time to sort it all out. if I can help anyone here let me know!

I can tell you when I connected my MTH Wi-Fi it took off and worked perfectly the FIRST TIME the way there book said!

thanks MTH for a Great product and excellent support!

Alan  

I have tried 4 different routers / gateways.  Tell us which router you use to connect to the Lionel WiFi module.  As I have posted my current Cisco router / gateway  connects 15-20 devices flawlessly. It won't connect the Lionel WiFi module. I also have an At&T microcell that connects with no problem. If it's a router problem why does it work on all of my other devices except the Lionel WiFi.  As you have offered I will accept your help in solving this problem.

Bruce 

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Barry Broskowitz posted:

FYI, the Apple AirPort routers (AirPort Extreme and AirPort Express) work perfectly with the MTH WIU and the Lionel LCS products.

Thanks Barry, that's good info.  Will they work as a wired access point from the AT&T Cisco gateway or do they need to be the primary router on your system?  I assume you have a Lionel WiFi module paired to one of these?

Bruce

cjack posted:

I don’t get this, the Lionel WiFi is iffy. Slow to connect if it connects at all. Why, when all other WiFi devices have no difficulty at all? How is it helpful to give individual help when the common to all difficulties is the Lionel WiFi module? How about a fix for it?

Yep!  What you said!

Bruce

 

Bruce,

Will they work as a wired access point from the AT&T Cisco gateway or do they need to be the primary router on your system? I assume you have a Lionel WiFi module paired to one of these?

My configuration has an AirPort Extreme as my primary router downstairs, in the den. Upstairs, in the train room, is an AirPort Express that's configured as an access point.

The Lionel LCS was configured as a WPS device through the downstairs AirPort Extreme. Once configured, it talks to the network via the AirPort Express.

The MTH WIUs were originally configured in Home mode as WPS devices. Later, I found that connecting them via Ethernet to the AirPort Express brought them onto the network somewhat faster and that's how they're configured at present.

The LCS and the 4 WIUs have all been assigned static IP addresses, further increasing their speed of joining the network when powered on.

BruceT47 posted:
repair technician posted:

hi unfortunately you have to deal with poor router designs. I purchased a netgear router to access my microcell cell phone booster because I have poor signal reception in my home. low and behold after many phone conversations to at&t  microcell I found out some routers WILL NOT let the proper signals go threw and had to purchase another $200.00 netgear router which fixed all the problems. I don't believe it is Lionel or MTH,S problem it is the router you purchase will not accept certain  protocols required for certain devises such as MTH or Lionel or other connecting  devices!

p.s. I fix computers and have run into many issues with not connection to internets or Bluetooth device. takes time to sort it all out. if I can help anyone here let me know!

I can tell you when I connected my MTH Wi-Fi it took off and worked perfectly the FIRST TIME the way there book said!

thanks MTH for a Great product and excellent support!

Alan  

I have tried 4 different routers / gateways.  Tell us which router you use to connect to the Lionel WiFi module.  As I have posted my current Cisco router / gateway  connects 15-20 devices flawlessly. It won't connect the Lionel WiFi module. I also have an At&T microcell that connects with no problem. If it's a router problem why does it work on all of my other devices except the Lionel WiFi.  As you have offered I will accept your help in solving this problem.

Bruce 

Bruce, here is my experience.

I have a fairly new ASUS router that absolutely wouldn't connect to the LCS wifi with the same problems listed above. So I dug through my bone yard of computer stuff and dug an ancient Linksys WAP54g. The WAP54g is not a router but rather a wireless access point that can be added to an existing wired network.

When I fired up the WAP54g, I had apparently loaded third party firmware (DD-WRT) on it years ago. When I got the unit configured on my wired network I attempted to connect the LCS Wifi with no luck. I then decided to reinstall the latest version available of the original Linksys firmware. The LCS WiFI did work with WAP54g access point after I did this.

My conclusion is that much newer and more advanced DD-WRT firmware that was loaded on the WAP54g just didn't allow connections from a device using older(?) wireless protocols. Now keep in mind, the third party DD-WRT firmware I used previous was a 10000% improvement over the original Linksys firmware on this device but sacrifices had to made for the LCS WiFi.

The actual WiFi hardware being used may not be the problem at all, I suspect this is all software related with these newer routers. I think Lionel will need get their LCS WiFi units updated to work with newer routers (software).

Dig through your old tech junk box if you have one and find some really old wireless router, you might have better luck getting the LCS to connect.

At the end of the day, I really wish the LCS WiFi had an Ethernet port for wired connections like the MTH WIU does.

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So, those of us with routers that aren't compatible are supposed to just live with access point mode?

for how much that wifi box cost, we shouldn't have to deal with any troubles like this.  It isn't like Wifi is a new technology.  And that box is running a pretty old version of that tech too if I recall correctly, it is a wireless B box.  I had wireless B in my house in 2005.  

I suppose they will get my money when they make a new improved box for even more $.

H1000 posted:
BruceT47 posted:
repair technician posted:

hi unfortunately you have to deal with poor router designs. I purchased a netgear router to access my microcell cell phone booster because I have poor signal reception in my home. low and behold after many phone conversations to at&t  microcell I found out some routers WILL NOT let the proper signals go threw and had to purchase another $200.00 netgear router which fixed all the problems. I don't believe it is Lionel or MTH,S problem it is the router you purchase will not accept certain  protocols required for certain devises such as MTH or Lionel or other connecting  devices!

p.s. I fix computers and have run into many issues with not connection to internets or Bluetooth device. takes time to sort it all out. if I can help anyone here let me know!

I can tell you when I connected my MTH Wi-Fi it took off and worked perfectly the FIRST TIME the way there book said!

thanks MTH for a Great product and excellent support!

Alan  

I have tried 4 different routers / gateways.  Tell us which router you use to connect to the Lionel WiFi module.  As I have posted my current Cisco router / gateway  connects 15-20 devices flawlessly. It won't connect the Lionel WiFi module. I also have an At&T microcell that connects with no problem. If it's a router problem why does it work on all of my other devices except the Lionel WiFi.  As you have offered I will accept your help in solving this problem.

Bruce 

Bruce, here is my experience.

I have a fairly new ASUS router that absolutely wouldn't connect to the LCS wifi with the same problems listed above. So I dug through my bone yard of computer stuff and dug an ancient Linksys WAP54g. The WAP54g is not a router but rather a wireless access point that can be added to an existing wireless network.

When I fired up the WAP54g, I had apparently loaded third party firmware (DD-WRT) on it years ago. When I got the unit configured on my wired network I attempted to connect the LCS Wifi with no luck. I then decided to reinstall the latest version available of the original Linksys firmware. The LCS WiFI did work with WAP54g access point after I did this.

My conclusion is that much newer and more advanced DD-WRT firmware that was loaded on the WAP54g just didn't allow connections from a device using older(?) wireless protocols. Now keep in mind, the third party DD-WRT firmware I used previous was a 10000% improvement over the original Linksys firmware on this device but sacrifices had to made for the LCS WiFi.

The actual WiFi hardware being used may not be the problem at all, I suspect this is all software related with these newer routers. I think Lionel will need get their LCS WiFi units updated to work with newer routers (software).

Dig through your old tech junk box if you have one and find some really old wireless router, you might have better luck getting the LCS to connect.

At the end of the day, I really wish the LCS WiFi had an Ethernet port for wired connections like the MTH WIU does.

Thanks.  I don't have that particular model, however I have an old Bellkin 54G as well as a D-link.  I've tried the D-link with no success both stand alone and connected to the home network.  I'll try the Belkin.  I'll reset both to factory default if they will let me and see what happens.

 

Harvy posted:

How can the LCS WiFi module connect to your "ancient" access point if it is so "ancient", as you say?  The LCS WiFi module can only comnect via WPS.  Does your "ancient" access point have WPS?

Yes, It has WPS button.

WPS isn't anything new or cutting edge. In fact it poses several security risks when enabled and makes just about any wireless network hackable. In extremely secure environments, WPS functions should be disabled.

Barry Broskowitz posted:

Bruce,

Will they work as a wired access point from the AT&T Cisco gateway or do they need to be the primary router on your system? I assume you have a Lionel WiFi module paired to one of these?

My configuration has an AirPort Extreme as my primary router downstairs, in the den. Upstairs, in the train room, is an AirPort Express that's configured as an access point.

The Lionel LCS was configured as a WPS device through the downstairs AirPort Extreme. Once configured, it talks to the network via the AirPort Express.

The MTH WIUs were originally configured in Home mode as WPS devices. Later, I found that connecting them via Ethernet to the AirPort Express brought them onto the network somewhat faster and that's how they're configured at present.

The LCS and the 4 WIUs have all been assigned static IP addresses, further increasing their speed of joining the network when powered on.

Thanks again Barry.  That's good info and answers my questions.  Looks like an Apple router is in my future.

Bruce

 

Railsounds posted:

 

If you prefer not to address this individually, please contact Lionel Customer service at 1 (586) 949-4100.

Rudy,

That is your call.  I have two of the WiFi modules.  One purchased in 2015 and one purchased in 2017.  Both from Legacy Station.  If we are going to research this problem I would like to return the modules with the router they will not connect too.  It's obvious they connect to your routers at Lionel, however that doesn't help those of us who don't have duplicate equipment.  I would return the older module first along with the router.  Once tested and repaired you could return it and I would then send in the newer module. You  would return my router once testing and repair is complete on the newer module.  You can contact me online at my email address to arrange this or give me a name and number to talk to at Lionel that is familiar with this conversation.  Thanks!

Bruce

H1000 posted:
BruceT47 posted:
repair technician posted:

hi unfortunately you have to deal with poor router designs. I purchased a netgear router to access my microcell cell phone booster because I have poor signal reception in my home. low and behold after many phone conversations to at&t  microcell I found out some routers WILL NOT let the proper signals go threw and had to purchase another $200.00 netgear router which fixed all the problems. I don't believe it is Lionel or MTH,S problem it is the router you purchase will not accept certain  protocols required for certain devises such as MTH or Lionel or other connecting  devices!

p.s. I fix computers and have run into many issues with not connection to internets or Bluetooth device. takes time to sort it all out. if I can help anyone here let me know!

I can tell you when I connected my MTH Wi-Fi it took off and worked perfectly the FIRST TIME the way there book said!

thanks MTH for a Great product and excellent support!

Alan  

I have tried 4 different routers / gateways.  Tell us which router you use to connect to the Lionel WiFi module.  As I have posted my current Cisco router / gateway  connects 15-20 devices flawlessly. It won't connect the Lionel WiFi module. I also have an At&T microcell that connects with no problem. If it's a router problem why does it work on all of my other devices except the Lionel WiFi.  As you have offered I will accept your help in solving this problem.

Bruce 

Bruce, here is my experience.

I have a fairly new ASUS router that absolutely wouldn't connect to the LCS wifi with the same problems listed above. So I dug through my bone yard of computer stuff and dug an ancient Linksys WAP54g. The WAP54g is not a router but rather a wireless access point that can be added to an existing wired network.

When I fired up the WAP54g, I had apparently loaded third party firmware (DD-WRT) on it years ago. When I got the unit configured on my wired network I attempted to connect the LCS Wifi with no luck. I then decided to reinstall the latest version available of the original Linksys firmware. The LCS WiFI did work with WAP54g access point after I did this.

My conclusion is that much newer and more advanced DD-WRT firmware that was loaded on the WAP54g just didn't allow connections from a device using older(?) wireless protocols. Now keep in mind, the third party DD-WRT firmware I used previous was a 10000% improvement over the original Linksys firmware on this device but sacrifices had to made for the LCS WiFi.

The actual WiFi hardware being used may not be the problem at all, I suspect this is all software related with these newer routers. I think Lionel will need get their LCS WiFi units updated to work with newer routers (software).

Dig through your old tech junk box if you have one and find some really old wireless router, you might have better luck getting the LCS to connect.

At the end of the day, I really wish the LCS WiFi had an Ethernet port for wired connections like the MTH WIU does.

I had Frontier service and they provided their 7255 router, which in my opinion is one of the poorer routers on the market. Even though it has a WPS button, Frontier saw fit to cripple the feature. However, I was able to manually connect to it as well as a Netgear WN2500v2 set as an access point. Not satisfied with Frontier's speed the family switched to Spectrum. We use Spectrum's modem With an Asus RT-AC3100 router. I can't remember how I attached to this router but contrary to another individual it is working splendidly. 

As I stated the Frontier Router had its WPS disabled so I can only assume I used some manual process. It has been a while since I had to do it since as soon as the WiFi box was available, I was on board. I therefore also assume I used a manual process to connect it through the access point. But thinking I believe the access point was setup at the time with the same SSID and Password as the main Router. If I get a chance tonight I will find the installation manual for the Legacy WiFi box and see if that jogs my memory a little more. 

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All right, I am mystified! 

All I can say at this point is I don't remember. I did find a hand written note I made in the manual that the device was named:

Gainspan_146d2c and was assigned IP Address 192.168.254.18

This tells me that it was connected to the Frontier Router, but nothing is registering and now I am even questioning how the Netgear WN2500v2 was configured. I am going to bail on this issue since it appears I am only contributing "Hearsay" at this point. 

SUCCESS!  CONNECTED!

Purchased this Lynksys router at Walmart this AM.  It connected to the Lionel WiFi module immediately.  It is configured via access point off my AT&T gateway (Cisco).  Thanks to all who have commented and good luck to all who are still trying to connect. 

A shame the manufacturer continues to ignore this problem.

Bruce

 

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Harvy posted:

How can the LCS WiFi module be connected to your router in Access Point mode?  Do you mean Join to Network mode?

No.  The Lynksys router is configured as a wired access point off my AT&T gateway.  My gateway is downstairs and I have a cat 5 connection to the Lynksys router upstairs.  The Lionel WiFi module is then paired / join to network  with the Lynksys wireless network via WPS.

Bruce

BruceT47 posted:
Harvy posted:

How can the LCS WiFi module be connected to your router in Access Point mode?  Do you mean Join to Network mode?

No.  The Lynksys router is configured as a wired access point off my AT&T gateway.  My gateway is downstairs and I have a cat 5 connection to the Lynksys router upstairs.  The Lionel WiFi module is then paired / join to network  with the Lynksys wireless network via WPS.

Bruce

Oh.  So in your original post you meant your Linksys router was in access point mode and not the LCS WiFi module?

BruceT47 posted:

SUCCESS!  CONNECTED!

Purchased this Lynksys router at Walmart this AM.  It connected to the Lionel WiFi module immediately.  It is configured via access point off my AT&T gateway (Cisco).  Thanks to all who have commented and good luck to all who are still trying to connect. 

A shame the manufacturer continues to ignore this problem.

Bruce

 

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So you really don't have success.   You just did the same thing I did months ago after I created this thread.  I put my Comcast Gateway into bridge mode and connected my Linksys router to it so the LCS WiFi module could connect to it.  We all still have the same problem where the LCS WiFi module will not connect to the routers we really want to use.  Now we have to use two routers instead of one.

 

Harvy posted:
BruceT47 posted:

SUCCESS!  CONNECTED!

Purchased this Lynksys router at Walmart this AM.  It connected to the Lionel WiFi module immediately.  It is configured via access point off my AT&T gateway (Cisco).  Thanks to all who have commented and good luck to all who are still trying to connect. 

A shame the manufacturer continues to ignore this problem.

Bruce

 

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So you really don't have success.   You just did the same thing I did months ago after I created this thread.  I put my Comcast Gateway into bridge mode and connected my Linksys router to it so the LCS WiFi module could connect to it.  We all still have the same problem where the LCS WiFi module will not connect to the routers we really want to use.  Now we have to use two routers instead of one.

 

That's also what I basically had to do.

Instead of a wireless bridge, Bruce used a wired connection to an LCS WiFi compatible access point. would have been nice to connect that wire directly to the LCS WiFi module. You're right this is sad, two devices to do one job.

Harvy posted:
BruceT47 posted:

SUCCESS!  CONNECTED!

Purchased this Lynksys router at Walmart this AM.  It connected to the Lionel WiFi module immediately.  It is configured via access point off my AT&T gateway (Cisco).  Thanks to all who have commented and good luck to all who are still trying to connect. 

A shame the manufacturer continues to ignore this problem.

Bruce

 

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So you really don't have success.   You just did the same thing I did months ago after I created this thread.  I put my Comcast Gateway into bridge mode and connected my Linksys router to it so the LCS WiFi module could connect to it.  We all still have the same problem where the LCS WiFi module will not connect to the routers we really want to use.  Now we have to use two routers instead of one.

 

Well my old Lynksys router configured as an access point would not connect.  That's the wireless connection I use on the third level (over my garage).  My AT&T gateway will not get a signal to that point.  Replacing the older router now allows me to connect to the network.  To me that's success.

I've never tried connecting directly to the gateway as it would be useless since I can't get its wireless signal in my train room.

I'm just happy to find a router that connects at a reasonable price point. That's why I shared the info.

Bruce

BruceT47 posted:
Harvy posted:
BruceT47 posted:

SUCCESS!  CONNECTED!

Purchased this Lynksys router at Walmart this AM.  It connected to the Lionel WiFi module immediately.  It is configured via access point off my AT&T gateway (Cisco).  Thanks to all who have commented and good luck to all who are still trying to connect. 

A shame the manufacturer continues to ignore this problem.

Bruce

 

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So you really don't have success.   You just did the same thing I did months ago after I created this thread.  I put my Comcast Gateway into bridge mode and connected my Linksys router to it so the LCS WiFi module could connect to it.  We all still have the same problem where the LCS WiFi module will not connect to the routers we really want to use.  Now we have to use two routers instead of one.

 

Well my old Lynksys router configured as an access point would not connect.  That's the wireless connection I use on the third level (over my garage).  My AT&T gateway will not get a signal to that point.  Replacing the older router now allows me to connect to the network.  To me that's success.

I've never tried connecting directly to the gateway as it would be useless since I can't get its wireless signal in my train room.

I'm just happy to find a router that connects at a reasonable price point. That's why I shared the info.

Bruce

Well, I'm glad you got it working anyway you could. When I sent my LCS WiFi module back to Lionel, they said it was working fine and there are just some routers it will not connect to, for whatever reason.  I don't know what Lionel's capabilities are concerning updating the LCS WiFi module.  Maybe it needs a hardwre and/or firmware update.  I don't know if the current modules are capable of that.  Maybe they will fix ones that are manufactured after a certain date.  I don't know if they will recall old ones and fix them when they have a fix.  That could be costly for them.

For example, I remember the early Legacy base units were not capable to let the user upgrade the firmware.  They had to be sent back to Lionel for the upgrade, which I'm sure was costly for them.  They have since fixed that and now the user can download and upgrade the firmware at will, which I think is awesome that they did that.  Maybe they can do something similar for the LCS WiFi module. 

Does anyone know if Lionel is doing anything else to deal with these issues other than recommending different routers? It surely can't be the solution.

Are the newer copies of the LCS WIFI module any different than my early one?

I like the LCS and I would like to see it a great success. My module does link up after some difficulty to my Apple router. I would just buy a later copy if it would be a solid performer...anybody?

BruceT47 posted:

Is that the utility that was teased at the last York?  Be nice to see some substance go along with the fluff. 

I do agree some sort of utility is sorely needed.

Bruce

Yes, this is the Utility mentioned at York. I'm looking for a few folks to beta test it specifically in regard to the WPS connection issue. If you or others reading this thread are interested, I am looking for a few folks to test who:

1) Have a Windows laptop or desktop with a WiFi adapter
2) Have an otherwise-working router that never connects with your LCS WiFi in Join To Network mode 

This utility will allow you to enter your network name and password via keyboard. If you'd be interested in giving it a spin, please let me know.

Thanks!

I am not a computer engineer and I do not play one in the movies or on TV.  You should test the speed of your internet provider. The speed is very important part of joining a network. Should be at least 100 Mbps on the Download and 10 Mbps on the upload. Do do this test, Click here.  Than click “go” to start the test.

Below is this test on my computer.

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internet speed maybe irrelevant with Lionel Wi-Fi, but it is fun to check. It does become important for many internet applications. Like Youtube and photography...............

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Railsounds posted:
BruceT47 posted:

Is that the utility that was teased at the last York?  Be nice to see some substance go along with the fluff. 

I do agree some sort of utility is sorely needed.

Bruce

Yes, this is the Utility mentioned at York. I'm looking for a few folks to beta test it specifically in regard to the WPS connection issue. If you or others reading this thread are interested, I am looking for a few folks to test who:

1) Have a Windows laptop or desktop with a WiFi adapter
2) Have an otherwise-working router that never connects with your LCS WiFi in Join To Network mode 

This utility will allow you to enter your network name and password via keyboard. If you'd be interested in giving it a spin, please let me know.

Thanks!

Sure sounds like a step in the right direction.  Last week at this time I would have jumped at the chance.  Since I installed the new Lynksys, as mentioned previously,  I have had no issues connecting.  

I could add the older Lynksys router back to the LAN and test with it.  I know it won't connect.  Email is in my profile if any interest.

Bruce

Checking in to make sure I haven't overlooked anyone. I've been in touch with Ken M, Harvy, Gunrunner John, Bruce, Jim and Tracker John. I haven't forgotten about you Chuck, but your LCS WiFi module is connecting in Join To Network mode "after some difficulty," so I think it's safe to say yours is not a WPS-related problem.

Is there anyone else following this thread who:

1) Has a Windows laptop or desktop with a WiFi adapter
2) Has an otherwise-working router that never connects with your LCS WiFi in Join To Network mode 

I am beta testing a utility that will allow you to enter your network name and password via keyboard. If you'd be interested in giving it a spin, please let me know.

Thanks!

 

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To Rudy:

What is the result with everyone testing with the software you shared with us? I can definitely connect now with "join to network" and the cab 2 works fine, however the LCS app and the icab app and High Rail app  all work intermittently.   Do you consider this issue closed or is there still work being done on the issue?

Thanks

Thanks for your follow-up, Jim. I believe everyone with the “can’t join to network” problem has resolved their issue, in Harvy's case by using a different router and the others by using the LCS WiFi monitor LE to key in the network name and password, thus avoiding the need to use WPS. 
 
We also learned (thanks Bruce!) that having a blank WPS password prevents some routers from establishing a connection with the LCS WiFi module. On his layout, adding a password allowed a WPS connection to routers that previously would not connect to LCS WiFi.
 
So, anyone trying to use WPS to establish an LCS WiFi connection should be sure their network has a non-blank password!
 
Regarding your question: If you are experiencing reliable connection to your LCS WiFi module when in Access Point mode, but unreliable connection when in Join To Network, I’m not sure how I can help. We have many users who exclusively use Join To Network who are not experiencing this issue and so I can only assume there is something else happening in your network environment that is contributing to the problem. However, if you want to contact customer service and try swapping out your LCS WiFi module, I’ll let them know I suggested we try this. If you want to proceed, please contact Customer Support directly to get the ball rolling.

Rudy,

I hope you are still monitoring this Thread.  As I previously had stated, I had connected my LCS WiFi Box up to my ASUS Router RT-AC3100.  I know this because the router App is aware of the Box, aware being the operative word.  I took my control board to my shop for major rewire and addition of more ASC's and BPC's for an expansion.  I have since installed the board back to my Train Table.  I can control all my LCS boxes from my handhelds.  Now to the bad part.  I have tried repeatedly to connect, trying more ways than I can count without taking my socks off, to no avail.  I tried both with the Router App joining the LCS to the Network and have also tried using the Push Button on the Router, both pushing the LCS WiFi Box's WPS button first and second.  I have even tried doing things that should have no bearing on the situation, but tried anyway.

Now to be perfectly up front I also used the LCS WiFi Box as an Access Point and yes, I can use the LSU software to talk to the LCS WiFi box and access the data in my Base.  I am however not enthralled with that solution.

Bottom Line.  Can I still get access to your utility that would allow for the use of a PIN to join my Home Network by the LCS WiFi Box? 

Dave Olson posted:

Rudy is off for a few days but will be back later this week and will be able to help you.

We are planning on making the utility public later this month if all goes smoothly. It'll be available on the Service website. We're just dotting our t's and crossing out i's. 

Thanks Dave,

That is good enough for me.  Is there a link to that website you referred to.

phoch00 posted:
gunrunnerjohn posted:

Thanks! Took me all of 30 seconds to get my wifi working once I ran that utility. Appreciate it.

How did you connect to your LCS Wi-Fi  module so quickly?  I have been trying for months with no luck.  I have to use a separate router in addition to my Comcast Gateway to connect to it.   Can you please tell me exactly what you did with the utility?

I turned the LCS WiFi module into access point mode, connected my laptop to the lionel lcs network and then opened the utility. It's not the most intuitive but it works. Once you've connected the utility to the Wifi module you can click on the Wifi icon which loads that modules parameters. You can then type in the name of your access point and security info, password, etc. You then save that to the module. Afterwards, I switched the LCS Wifi module into connect to network mode and it just worked. Like I said, it took me 30 seconds once I had that utility to work with and it's all connected now.

Thank you.  That is what I have been doing.  My password always displays in the utility as encoded.  How did you type in your pasword?  What format?  How did you save it?  Last time I tried this my LCS Wi-Fi module got hosed and Lionel had to send me a new one.  I'm afraid to try it again.

Hi Everyone,

I just picked up a new Comcast Gateway because my current one kept losing the internet connection every hour.  I had been using my separate Linksys router since I started this thread a long time ago because my LCS Wi-Fi module would not connect to it.  I decided to try to connect my LCS Wi-Fi module to my new Comcast Gateway and it connected on the first try.  Whoo!  Time to pack up my Linksys router.

Harvy posted:

Hi Everyone,

I just picked up a new Comcast Gateway because my current one kept losing the internet connection every hour.  I had been using my separate Linksys router since I started this thread a long time ago because my LCS Wi-Fi module would not connect to it.  I decided to try to connect my LCS Wi-Fi module to my new Comcast Gateway and it connected on the first try.  Whoo!  Time to pack up my Linksys router.

Harvy,

 

Did you try the new app that Lionel released?  I tried it with a Router I am almost sure that at one time I connected using the "Network" option and then later on it would not connect.  the new app worked like a charm to connect up my Asus AR3100 Router.

Loose-Caboose posted:
Harvy posted:

Hi Everyone,

I just picked up a new Comcast Gateway because my current one kept losing the internet connection every hour.  I had been using my separate Linksys router since I started this thread a long time ago because my LCS Wi-Fi module would not connect to it.  I decided to try to connect my LCS Wi-Fi module to my new Comcast Gateway and it connected on the first try.  Whoo!  Time to pack up my Linksys router.

Harvy,

 

Did you try the new app that Lionel released?  I tried it with a Router I am almost sure that at one time I connected using the "Network" option and then later on it would not connect.  the new app worked like a charm to connect up my Asus AR3100 Router.

Yes, I tried it, but it never worked for me.

Hi Leandro,

I think you are my first customer from South America.  Nice to virtually meet you.

The problem you are having is that eTrain Command Mobile was designed and built way before the Lionel LCS Wi-Fi module came out.  Therefore, at that time, there was only one way to be able to get a mobile device to control your Lionel trains.  That way is to use Wi-Fi from your phone to connect to your wireless router, which is then connected to computer that is running eTrain Command Console (Windows application), then connecting your computer to any Lionel command base unit.  So what I am saying is that you must have my Windows application in order to use the mobile app.  The mobile app will not connect directly to the LCS Wi-Fi module.  However, the Windows app will.  It is all explained in the description for the mobile app in the Google Play Store.

You can read more about the Windows application and purchase it on ebay by clicking on the links in my signature below.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

@Harvy posted:

Hi Leandro,

I think you are my first customer from South America.  Nice to virtually meet you.

The problem you are having is that eTrain Command Mobile was designed and built way before the Lionel LCS Wi-Fi module came out.  Therefore, at that time, there was only one way to be able to get a mobile device to control your Lionel trains.  That way is to use Wi-Fi from your phone to connect to your wireless router, which is then connected to computer that is running eTrain Command Console (Windows application), then connecting your computer to any Lionel command base unit.  So what I am saying is that you must have my Windows application in order to use the mobile app.  The mobile app will not connect directly to the LCS Wi-Fi module.  However, the Windows app will.  It is all explained in the description for the mobile app in the Google Play Store.

You can read more about the Windows application and purchase it on ebay by clicking on the links in my signature below.

Please let me know if you have any other questions.

Hi, Harvy ! Nice to meet to !

I was excited to buy because It was to Android and I not read the description in Play Store.(no problem)

So eTrain Command Console by windows is connect directly in LCS Wifi module ? Because today it not is connected in my Internet router (it's necessary)!
When I buy in Ebay I will received the software by email?

Thanks !

Yes.  eTrain Command Console running on a Windows computer that is connected to the same LAN as your phone, will send commands from your phone to your computer and then to the LCS Wi-Fi module.  All three devices must be on the same network.

If you purchase the software on ebay, you will receive it by email.  If your ISP does not let it go through (which is common), I will then invite you to a Dropbox folder where you can download it.

Thank you.

@Harvy posted:

Yes.  eTrain Command Console running on a Windows computer that is connected to the same LAN as your phone, will send commands from your phone to your computer and then to the LCS Wi-Fi module.  All three devices must be on the same network.

If you purchase the software on ebay, you will receive it by email.  If your ISP does not let it go through (which is common), I will then invite you to a Dropbox folder where you can download it.

Thank you.

Harvy, thank you !

My first steps will be:

- I will put my LCS module in house's network and I 'm will test the connections with my Ipad;
- If all right I will buy etrain console software !

I will get back to you on this later today.

Thanks !

 

3 years later, new LCS Wifi unit just received today - it does not want to connect to my Ubiquiti Access points. (AP Network is 2.4ghz only). The gainspan module used seems to be quite crappy, really wish an ethernet port would have been available (to connect to the development switch just 2 feet away!)

On the brightside, my Wifi nic on my dev PC is unused, so I can leave the module in AP mode and just direct access it that way

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I had to resort to the LcsWiFiMonitorLE to get mine connected to my router.  That allows me to keep Internet connectivity while using devices to connect to the Legacy.  Also, my desktop can connect to the Legacy system using the LSU and I can edit engines, routes, switches, etc. at my leisure from desktop.

Here's a link to my post with the install files for the monitor.

https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...1#166277369142741941

@Harvy posted:

Wow!  I can't believe this thread is still going.  The LcsWiFiMonitorLE software never helped me get connected. I gave up on it years ago and never looked back.  I have always used a separate switch.  I think I was the one who started this thread.

I just checked and I did start it.  Unfortunately I have much bigger problems to deal with these days.

@Harvy posted:

Wow!  I can't believe this thread is still going.  The LcsWiFiMonitorLE software never helped me get connected. I gave up on it years ago and never looked back.  I have always used a separate switch.  I think I was the one who started this thread.

Yep I'm working on the gargantuan task of building out a REST API-exposed system of controls to bridge the MTH/Legacy remote gap, so I stumbled across this thread troubleshooting.

And yeah the only useful thing for the LCS Monitor software is spying on the serial commands as they bounce around. That wifi connector only likes to tell me the large number of connect errors from when I flip it into Join network mode

@Harvy posted:

Wow!  I can't believe this thread is still going.  The LcsWiFiMonitorLE software never helped me get connected. I gave up on it years ago and never looked back.  I have always used a separate switch.  I think I was the one who started this thread.

What can I say, you're a sample of one.

I got connected in a flash once I had the monitor software and could configure for my router's SSID and password.  The WPS was the stumbling block for most people, it didn't seem to work for many routers.  I helped a few people get their WiFi connected once the monitor was released.

It's way more convenient to have the LSU connected to my computer, editing on a full screen is way better than spinning the knob for hours on the CAB2 to configure locomotives!

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Yep I'm working on the gargantuan task of building out a REST API-exposed system of controls to bridge the MTH/Legacy remote gap, so I stumbled across this thread troubleshooting.

And yeah the only useful thing for the LCS Monitor software is spying on the serial commands as they bounce around. That wifi connector only likes to tell me the large number of connect errors from when I flip it into Join network mode

Works like a champ here...

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