Gilly@N&W posted:
Rider Sandman posted:

What I’d really like is a re-release (in Legacy) of the N&W water tenders, but I’m beginning to think that isn’t in the cards given the recent number of N&W steamers without it making an appearance. Thoughts?

Well, assuming Lionel does produce a Legacy Auxiliary Water Tender buy the boards at the annual Lionel parts sale. Then get one of the N&W brass TMCC auxiliary water tenders and swap the boards.

Great idea, Tom. I’ll try to find the brass tender before this fall’s sale unless by some chance the N&W tender shows up in the v2 catalog. 

Rider Sandman posted:
Gilly@N&W posted:
Rider Sandman posted:

What I’d really like is a re-release (in Legacy) of the N&W water tenders, but I’m beginning to think that isn’t in the cards given the recent number of N&W steamers without it making an appearance. Thoughts?

Well, assuming Lionel does produce a Legacy Auxiliary Water Tender buy the boards at the annual Lionel parts sale. Then get one of the N&W brass TMCC auxiliary water tenders and swap the boards.

Great idea, Tom. I’ll try to find the brass tender before this fall’s sale unless by some chance the N&W tender shows up in the v2 catalog. 

If you just get the shell/chassis, I have 2 pair of the N&W trucks that are left over from another Aux Tender modification I did.  I took the MTH Chessie Safety Special tender and modified it to be more like the prototype, which included changing the trucks out.  I have no need for the trucks I took off.

Peter Araujo posted:

From what I've seen, it looks like it resembles the K-Line Hudson or Berkshire tender tooling.

Peter,

It is the Lionel Tooling for the Hudson Tender.  You can tell because of the ladder.  It is the same as mine above and my tender is a Lionel one.Husdon Tender

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C&O Allie posted:
Peter Araujo posted:

From what I've seen, it looks like it resembles the K-Line Hudson or Berkshire tender tooling.

Peter,

It is the Lionel Tooling for the Hudson Tender.  You can tell because of the ladder.  It is the same as mine above and my tender is a Lionel one.Husdon Tender

K-Line Lima Demonstrator Berkshire tender. I've looked at some photos and compared.

Too bad the plan is not to use the correct tender.  I wanted one for my Freedom Train, but will not be ordering one that is not correct.  I guess it is back to my original plan of finding one from a Mohawk and making some decals.......  If Lionel changes their mind and uses the correct shell, I could live with what ever trucks they put under it.

Rolland

Peter Araujo posted:
C&O Allie posted:
Peter Araujo posted:

From what I've seen, it looks like it resembles the K-Line Hudson or Berkshire tender tooling.

Peter,

It is the Lionel Tooling for the Hudson Tender.  You can tell because of the ladder.  It is the same as mine above and my tender is a Lionel one.Husdon Tender

K-Line Lima Demonstrator Berkshire tender. I've looked at some photos and compared.

Peter,

You are correct - my mistake.  So it will be slightly longer than the Hudson Tender in my picture, but shorter than the Mohawk Tender in my current version.

RLaHaie posted:

Too bad the plan is not to use the correct tender.  I wanted one for my Freedom Train, but will not be ordering one that is not correct.  I guess it is back to my original plan of finding one from a Mohawk and making some decals.......  If Lionel changes their mind and uses the correct shell, I could live with what ever trucks they put under it.

Rolland

Rolland,

Here are the decals I used for my version.  I printed the sides on clear decal paper and the numbers for the back on white decal paper.  Use the top set of the side decals for the words.

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RLaHaie posted:

Too bad the plan is not to use the correct tender.  I wanted one for my Freedom Train, but will not be ordering one that is not correct.  I guess it is back to my original plan of finding one from a Mohawk and making some decals.......  If Lionel changes their mind and uses the correct shell, I could live with what ever trucks they put under it.

Rolland

They don't have the correct tooling  Is how Ryan implied it in the video.   Sounded like one of those hey we don't have it and ehh it close enough.   Mike's has the tooling.  Maybe we can petition them to do the right ones for us lol

 

If they implied in the Facebook Live that MTH has the tooling, then they really don't know their product history. Lionel did a second run of the Mohawk in 1998 which is long after they parted ways with MTH.

mountain482 posted:

If they implied in the Facebook Live that MTH has the tooling, then they really don't know their product history. Lionel did a second run of the Mohawk in 1998 which is long after they parted ways with MTH.

I think I confused you.  I'm sorry.  They noted that their Mohawk tender was not the correct length.    I was just saying MTH has the correct length tender.

I was not confused but thought they may have been passing blame or making excuses for not doing it the right way based on what you said.  I wasn't able to watch it earlier today. 

It does beg the question though: where is Lionel's tooling for the Mohawk tender?

I have to correct my earlier statement.

Ryan clearly spoke about the Mohawk tender as the prototype for this tender on the Notch6 podcast (check out the audio around 53:50). However, on the Dave and Ryan Show, he did mention that the tender model was not from the Mohawk.

My understanding from the show, is that tooling money for this catalog was depleted, and yes, this one will have to be close enough. As usual, if you absolutely need the correct/prototypical model, you can wait, build your own, get the MTH version or simply purchase this offering and understand there is a compromise.

Charlie

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