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Hello y'all,

I have many military flat car loads, and I am also in the process of making more. However, a lot of the ones that I have are very similar. I want to start diversifying some of them, so I was hoping that y'all would be able to post some military flat cars that you have so I can get some different ideas.

Looking forward to seeing them,

Greg

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Here's a fighter plane on its way to a museum.  If you think the plane looks familiar, it's one of those K-Line "airplane kits" you see on the tables at train shows for $10 to $20.  The flatcar is one I found laying forlornly on a train meet table, just looking up at me silently crying, "I've got a lot of good layout running left in me!"  Five bucks later, that flatcar was heading home with me for this kitbash project!

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Here's a fighter plane on its way to a museum.  If you think the plane looks familiar, it's one of those K-Line "airplane kits" you see on the tables at train shows for $10 to $20.  The flatcar is one I found laying forlornly on a train meet table, just looking up at me silently crying, "I've got a lot of good layout running left in me!"  Five bucks later, that flatcar was heading home with me for this kitbash project!

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I am definitely going to try and build a flat car with a plane on it. Thanks for this!

Greg

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Two of my flat car loads that a member of the Detroit Three Railers built for me. On display in my little town.              He knew I was a Huey mechanic, Cobra crew chief,  and the little vehicle in the front looks like the real one in my garage. The M-60 is part of the Calvary unit I was assigned to. There is another Huey flat car in the display case next to a Cobra AH1g.

Thank you Andy and crew.

Clem

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OK, remember you asked for it....

3 Jeeps, Tamiya and Bandai

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Sherman in Free French colors, Bandai

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Soviet SU-85, old Tamiya

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Soviet BA-64B scout car x2, Tamiya, 37mm AA gun, Ace

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Italian Semovente SPG 75mm and command tank, Gasoline

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Italian AB 41 and German Sd.Kfz 222, Tamiya

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German V2, Pegasus

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Soviet SU-122, Tamiya

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German Sd.Kfz 232

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German Panzer IIIL and IIB, Tamiya

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American 2.5 ton trucks, Tamiya

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German Wespe 105mm SPG, Bandai

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Soviet JS-2 (IS-2), Tamiya

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German Schwimmwagen, Citroen 11cv, and Kubelwagen, Tamiya

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American M8 Greyhound, Tamiya

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German Stug IIIB, Tamiya

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Soviet T-34/76, Bandai

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German Krupp Protze trucks, Tamiya

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British Valentine, Bandai

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Soviet KV-2, captured and modified by the Germans, Hobby Boss

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Soviet SU-152, Bronco

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British Churchill VII, Tamiya

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American Sherman, Hobby Boss

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This represents little less than half of the cars that I've made over the years.  The others are still in storage.  I think that if you look hard enough, you can find a really varied supply of models to place on flatcars to get the variety you seek.  Thanks.

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Here are some of my projects; I’ve been told by a few here on OGR that my models are grossly incorrect, for example paint colors incorrectly placed or used and other issues like inconsistencies in timelines, a 1941 tank load next to a 1942 version. Anyway I don’t really have the time or for that matter care to get that thorough they are after all just toys and the kids adore the train when they saw it run at the shows. I’ve packed it up and shelved the project over advice from some of these guys here but I still enjoy it very much. And seeing this thread and all the wonderful models it renewed my interest a little, thanks guys!

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Aurora Long Tom 1/48 kit on an ancient Westbrook cast flat car (1950’s)

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many many kit builds, tried extremely hard to keep everything 1/48 and avoid the 1/50 stuff but I had to fudge a little.

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running on a friends layout, the High Plains Route which will be on the layout tours next Summer at the O Scale National Convention in Denver. 3 railers welcome! One of our sponsors is the RMD TCA.

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shot this on my module outside added some smoke!

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my favorite are these Long Tom guns.

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Trying hard to locate military equipment was part of the fun.

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finding enough scale flat cars in o scale not so easy a task.

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lots of kits, several years of building kits.

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@The Shadow posted:

Greg,

If you need help locating a kit for a specific prototype, please let me know.  I have almost 100 kits waiting to be assembled and can probably help you find what you’re looking for.

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Hey Price,

I have been on a Gaso.Line buying and building spree. If you have any kits for sale, shoot me an email. There are a lot of models made by them that I am actively looking for.

Regards,

Greg

Here are some of my projects; I’ve been told by a few here on OGR that my models are grossly incorrect, for example paint colors incorrectly placed or used and other issues like inconsistencies in timelines, a 1941 tank load next to a 1942 version. Anyway I don’t really have the time or for that matter care to get that thorough they are after all just toys and the kids adore the train when they saw it run at the shows. I’ve packed it up and shelved the project over advice from some of these guys here but I still enjoy it very much. And seeing this thread and all the wonderful models it renewed my interest a little, thanks guys!

Erik,

I spent 20 years in the Air Force and observed many times when equipment, vehicles and even aircraft had incorrectly applied paint or paint that faded or paint that oxidized.  When I was assigned to the 380th Munitions Maintenance Squadron at Plattsburgh AFB NY, we had two and a half ton munitions trucks purchased in various years that had different shades of Air Force blue paint.  We had two "bread trucks" for hauling maintenance crews, one built in 1969 and the other in 1978, that were usually parked next to each other in our parking lot.

Your models look great; don't let any nitpicker tell you differently.  I've found most of the nitpickers are still facsimiles of real trains as their models have electric can or geared motors, plastic figures, if any, on board, and so forth, so their models are, to be kind, a step or two removed from reality, too.

Here is my WW2 military train. It is an old video made back in 2013. Loads consist of Sherman Tanks, Priests, M10 Tank Destroyers, Half Tracks, 2 1/2 trucks. Vehicles are from Corgi, Solido, Tamiya, Hobby Boss. Flat cars are all scale MTH, Lionel, Atlas, and K line. A lot of fun putting it all together. Motive power are TMCC Lionel J1 and Y3 PRR steam engines.

 

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At the risk of over doing things....

The first pic is of New Millennium brand quasi 1/48 scale vehicles that I painted details and dirtied up to be acceptable.  I would have preferred straight 1/48 kits, but alas, none available...

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Japanese Type 95 Ha Go light tank and Type 93 Sumida road or rail armored car, both Gasoline

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French AMD Panhard 178 armored car, Gasoline

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Japanese Type 97 Chi-Ha medium tank, Aurora from way back

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German Sd.Kfz 7 towing 88mm flak, both Bandai

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German PaK 40 75mm anti tank guns, one Bandai and one Gasoline

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The following are a few quick shots of other cars I have made and will probably sell off in order to make room and/or pare down; these cars are kind of like rabbits- every time I turn around I've made another one...

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I mostly do WW II era stuff, but I occasionally find myself with something a little more modern: front row (l to r) 1950s-1960s West German Jagdpanzer Kanone (nearly obsolete 90 mm guns taken out of American Patton tanks and fitted into turretless body - not much different design than late war SP antitank guns...), 1960s US M60A1, Korean War era US M46/47 Patton

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@The Shadow posted:

At the risk of over doing things....

The first pic is of New Millennium brand quasi 1/48 scale vehicles that I painted details and dirtied up to be acceptable.  I would have preferred straight 1/48 kits, but alas, none available...

amphibious car and 3/4 ton weapons carrier

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Japanese Type 95 Ha Go light tank and Type 93 Sumida road or rail armored car, both Gasoline

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French AMD Panhard 178 armored car, Gasoline

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Japanese Type 97 Chi-Ha medium tank, Aurora from way back

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German PaK 40 75mm anti tank guns, one Bandai and one Gasoline

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The following are a few quick shots of other cars I have made and will probably sell off in order to make room and/or pare down; these cars are kind of like rabbits- every time I turn around I've made another one...

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I mostly do WW II era stuff, but I occasionally find myself with something a little more modern: front row (l to r) 1950s-1960s West German Jagdpanzer Kanone (nearly obsolete 90 mm guns taken out of American Patton tanks and fitted into turretless body - not much different design than late war SP antitank guns...), 1960s US M60A1, Korean War era US M46/47 Patton

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I love all of your loads, especially the one with the two Japanese vehicles on it!

And another one

Ulus,

      Great video, my military train is WW II based but I do like the modern military equipment. One minor suggestion load all of your vehicles in one direction. When loading vehicles a ramp is placed at the end of the train and the vehicles drive on from rear to the front car. All drive on in forward none back on. Each car is filled until all are loaded.

JohnB

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Not an Island war-fighter's favorite Transportation. Equipped with a pair of 225 HP Gray Marne diesels and a pair of 50 caliber machine guns. Lead flying above one's head from both directions.

We picked up 12 of them at Okinawa, each with a Higgins Boat (LCVP)  resting in the well deck, when the Korean War started.

Semper FI and Anchors Away!

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Great Military loads everyone!  About two years ago (pre pandemic), I picked up four Sherman tanks that were marked down to under $10 at Hobby Lobby and have been having a blast slowly building them for flatbed loads. I'm almost finished with this one, I just need to add a few more details like chains, crates, etc.  I'm really pleased how the tank came out. I primed it in a metallic color before adding the final coat. This allowed me to simulate realistic scratch marks down to the "metal"  -



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Great Military loads everyone!  About two years ago (pre pandemic), I picked up four Sherman tanks that were marked down to under $10 at Hobby Lobby and have been having a blast slowly building them for flatbed loads. I'm almost finished with this one, I just need to add a few more details like chains, crates, etc.  I'm really pleased how the tank came out. I primed it in a metallic color before adding the final coat. This allowed me to simulate realistic scratch marks down to the "metal"  -



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Looks great! I have built some Hobby Boss Sherman tanks in the past, and they are very enjoyable.

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Looks great! I have built some Hobby Boss Sherman tanks in the past, and they are very enjoyable.

Thanks Trainbros. I found them a little more difficult to build than the Tamiya Sherman's mainly due to having to clean up/sand out excess plastic on the parts and sprus.  However, for the price, Hobby Boss can't be beat and as you said, it's an enjoyable build.

Well I have nothing like the beautiful scale loads that most of you have posted although I looked at them all including back to January and enjoyed them a great deal.  I guess I thought that for fun I would add my own "toy train" contribution, a little along the lines of Robert S. Butler and his Marx payloads.  Here are mine.

The Air Force moving up a flat car full of air to ground rockets...along with a tank car full of fuel.

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The Navy moves up a reconnaissance and gun fire spotter aircraft.

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Best Wishes

Don

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Outstanding photos and scenes being presented'.  Ed, your lighting is outstanding'. some really good work here.  As a military man myself, I'm tempted to start obtaining additional equipment... I think I  will include a military base on my the new layout I build once I'm completely relocated... some time next year.... I hope'...

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Not an Island war-fighter's favorite Transportation. Equipped with a pair of 225 HP Gray Marne diesels and a pair of 50 caliber machine guns. Lead flying above one's head from both directions.

We picked up 12 of them at Okinawa, each with a Higgins Boat (LCVP)  resting in the well deck, when the Korean War started.

Semper FI and Anchors Away!

Possibly for Inchon.  John

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Please tell us more about the item behind the tank. What is it, what is it mounted on, and how did you build it. I have looked at 100 pictures of tanks stuck in the mud and still no hint. Thanks

Hey Hokie,

That is a Churchill Tank AVRE with a wood fascine. Tanks (in both world wars) would carry these huge bundles of wood for ditches. The company that makes this model is a French company, named Gaso-Line. They have the worst instructions ever, and are resin based. In order for the wood to be “still”, I not only had to glue it to a base, but secure it using wire that they provided with the kit. I then used CA glue to fasten the wires. If you have any questions about Gaso-Line, please feel free to email me. I’ve built many of their models.

Regards,

Greg P

Happy Memorial Day everyone!

I’d like to share my Thanks and Appreciation to everyone that ever served, especially those who payed the ultimate sacrifice! On this day I also Thank everyone that has ever put on a uniform, along with all those families that never had a loved one return home.
The best way to show your appreciation is to be an American worth dying for!

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Now let’s see those military trains!

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Ulus,

      Great video, my military train is WW II based but I do like the modern military equipment. One minor suggestion load all of your vehicles in one direction. When loading vehicles a ramp is placed at the end of the train and the vehicles drive on from rear to the front car. All drive on in forward none back on. Each car is filled until all are loaded.

JohnB

Thanks for sharing that knowledge on direction and the complements, glade you enjoyed as well

Well, not exactly a "Car Load" but here is one that has its roots in actual prototype.  In the late 60's at the height of the cold war, the Air Force got this idea to reduce the vulnerability of our missile defense to (presumably at that time) Soviet attack.  The idea was that we would put ICBM's on freight trains and move them around the country, never staying in one place too long.  This would make them very hard to target.  If the signal was given (when I was in the AF we used to say..."If the balloon goes up") the train would stop and an attached command car would launch the missile from the missile carrying car.  When I was at Wright Patterson AFB in about 1969 or so, we actually had at least one of the prototype cars on base.  It was stored on an unused siding behind some hangers.  I presume it had no rocket in it, just the car.  This one was Lionel's attempt to duplicate that system.  OBTW I never really followed the actual car but I know that by the 1980's the car was gone, likely scrapped and the idea was cancelled.

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Best wishes

Don

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I model narrow gauge and they didn't ship too many military vehicles like that, other than maybe the White Pass and Yukon during the big one. I do have one MB/GPW Jeep on a flatcar, but it's not chained correctly yet.

But, I have my share of (all 1:43 scale) WW2 vehicles, each marked correctly for stateside commands during my layout era of 1943.

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Just an FYI, I got some photos of real Army rolling stock at the Transportation Corps Museum at Ft Eustis a few years ago. They can be seen by clicking here and scrolling around. I tried posting the individual shots here but the forum wouldn't let me.

Sadly, the museum didn't configure any of these cars for loads. A CCKW atop that European flatcar would have looked great.

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Thats a great model, but I'd think a DD Sherman tank wouldn't clear a tunnel or bridge with the wading skirts upright.

I know they wouldn't deal with being on a train at anything more than yard speeds like that. On a train, it'd look like this:

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Hey Lee,

Thanks for the response, and I couldn't agree more. Gaso.line made the skirt kit, but they're unfortunately discontinued, and almost impossible to find.  When I saw the DD Sherman, it was too cool to pass up!

Regards,

Greg P

A couple of recent endeavors to float this thread again:

Stripped, repainted, decaled, detail painted, and lightly weathered Solido M3 on 40' B&A flat (AHM)

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(same as above) Solido DUKW on NYC 40' flat (AHM)

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TRUE, neither of these is 1/48 (they are 1/50), but I don't think anybody will notice the difference and I can't justify the expense of a 3D print model (M3), and there isn't one available to my knowledge in 1/48 (DUKW).  Oh well, the sacrifices we make...

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Nicely done, The Shadow. I particularly like the M7 in the background. I've collected about 6 of the Solido M7 Priests with the intention of repainting, decaling, and building a consist of them. Using the Atlantis models, I've also considered doing the same thing with the towed 8" like the one Trainbros89 built. (Which is also nicely done, BTW).

Jim,

Thank you.  The Solido M7's are hard to come by at a reasonable price.  I like to get them as cheap as possible because I then have to upgrade them to something less toy-like.  Have you heard of Peddinghaus Decals from Germany?  They offer sets for 1/48 vehicles.  You may be able to get a set for Priests that allows you to have multiple different numbers.

I have about six of the Atlantis 8" howitzer kits in the "to be built" collection.  Maybe someday I'll have the time...

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What is the time line or theater difference between the white star and the white star with the white circle around it?

I thought the star with the circle were D-day and later, but maybe that is not so?

The circled stars were for all Allied vehicles, including Commonwealth forces, in the European Theater only. Before that policy was put in place right before the Normandy invasion, British/Canadian vehicles ran the risk of fratricide from American gunners due to what were markings which varied from unit to unit.

The 'surround' star was not used in the Pacific, had limited use in Italy at first, and never used on stateside vehicles (unless it was one of those rare ones which was shipped back from England).

Marine Corps and Navy vehicles carried no stars.

As for stateside Army vehicles, sometimes they didn't even use a star at all. In some cases, they'd use a large white version of the Service Command insignia that would apply for that part of the country.

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Nicely done, The Shadow. I particularly like the M7 in the background. I've collected about 6 of the Solido M7 Priests with the intention of repainting, decaling, and building a consist of them. Using the Atlantis models, I've also considered doing the same thing with the towed 8" like the one Trainbros89 built. (Which is also nicely done, BTW).

Though I have a few Solido tracked vehicles I bought the first time I went to Europe, I'm not a fan of them on my layout because they're all 1/50 scale. Next to my 1/43 scale vehicles, they look very odd. I have one CCKW in stateside markings hidden in the bushes next to a 1/48 scale MB Jeep in the backdrop on my layout for forced perspective. So far, only one visitor has ever noticed them, as I have a lot of trees in front of them.

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Thanks for the information about the stars. FWIW, I came across a picture on The Google showing a newly built M3, M4, and M7 outside a plant in (I think) New Jersey. It was probably taken in 1942 or very early 1943. All three vehicles used similar suspensions and I think that was why the photo was taken. None of the vehicles had markings, but that was probably because they had not yet been inspected and accepted into government service. A consist of newly delivered vehicles on its way to Camp McCoy, WI, has a certain attraction and would fit in with my Milwaukee Road beer line.  After all, beer and redlegs are a naturally occurring phenomenon. 

On a more serious note, I agree about the 1:50 scale, but Solido is about the only game in town for artillery. Aside from the Atlantis models, the only other models I've come across are old Life Like models of M40 motor howitzers and 155mm Long Toms. They are 1:40 scale and are hard to find.

Jim

(1st Bn, 2nd FA, 8th Inf. Div., Baumholder, Germany, 1979-1982).

@Jim Brenner posted:

Thanks for the information about the stars. FWIW, I came across a picture on The Google showing a newly built M3, M4, and M7 outside a plant in (I think) New Jersey. It was probably taken in 1942 or very early 1943. All three vehicles used similar suspensions and I think that was why the photo was taken. None of the vehicles had markings, but that was probably because they had not yet been inspected and accepted into government service. A consist of newly delivered vehicles on its way to Camp McCoy, WI, has a certain attraction and would fit in with my Milwaukee Road beer line.  After all, beer and redlegs are a naturally occurring phenomenon.

On a more serious note, I agree about the 1:50 scale, but Solido is about the only game in town for artillery. Aside from the Atlantis models, the only other models I've come across are old Life Like models of M40 motor howitzers and 155mm Long Toms. They are 1:40 scale and are hard to find.

Jim

(1st Bn, 2nd FA, 8th Inf. Div., Baumholder, Germany, 1979-1982).

Jim

would love to see pics of your MR Beer Line! I model MR late 20's to 40's in O 2 rail

The latest mayhem:

Pair of Solido Dodge WC-54 trucks (US Army Signal Corps and Medical Department) on a B&M 40' flat (AHM):

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Can't remember the manufacturer- Soviet cargo truck and homemade crate loads on a shrimpy NP flat (K-Line?)

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Big shout out to Mike at K4 Decals for producing a FANTASTIC sheet of US Army vehicle decals!!!!!!  THANK YOU!!!!!

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