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p51 posted:

I'm very familiar with those in real life (I was in heavy mech units for the duration of my time in the Army). I took part in a test series on rocket assist projectile firings in conjunction with the Army and USMC in the 90s, using Paladins. I always thought it was hilarious how they used to crow about the air conditioning in those things but the red legs always complained that they never worked (the AC going down never deadlined them, regardless of the heat), so the crews  broiled inside them on the move most of the times I worked with them.

As far as I know, they're only made in 1/72 and 1/32 scale that are worth anything (other smaller scales are made, but those are crappy toys for accuracy).

Lee, thanks so much for info and insight.  I decided to built the kit with everything glued "down" including hatches, cannon in/on transport support, 50BMG stowed, etc. .

This is the kit.

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Will mount it on a flat car.

I love that you're going to model it in it's travel configuration. I spent all my time in heavy mechanized units and had to rail-load stuff way too often it seemed.

I see people all the time model military equipment on trains with hatches open, unsecured loads and often with crew-served weapons in place. Can you bet how long a .50 caliber machine gun would last on a vehicle while going across the country on a train?

Can you imagine how fast I could yank said weapon off said vehicle if I was motivated? We were in a field exercise once and we had a scenario where a M1A1 tank was considered a 'mobility kill' and the area was about to be overrun (a wargame scenario with North Korea) so we had to strip all the sensitive items off it right away before the OPFOR got to us as there was no time to haul the whole tank off. I personally mounted the turret and had the 'Ma Duce' off the thing in less than 5 seconds (only two large mounting pins hold it in place). Darned near broke my back jumping off the hull with it, as I couldn't just throw it onto the ground (in real life, we would have). I normally would have had to yank the M240 off it as well but it didn't have one. My soldiers stripped the tank like ants on a dead beetle in less than a minute. I jumped back up with smoke grenades, simulating thermite, and tossed them into the engine deck and crew compartments. The range judges were in awe with how fast we took to the mission and got out of there with everything but the 1200MM main gun! We went from, "here's your mission" to driving off in the Humvees in less than 3 minutes. The range people said they'd never seen anything like it. "Nascar-fast" was what they called us. Man, I hadn't thought of that in a long time...

As for your model, just make sure you use a lot of blocking and chains!

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p51 posted:
PRRronbh posted:
p51 posted:

I'm very familiar with those in real life (I was in heavy mech units for the duration of my time in the Army). I took part in a test series on rocket assist projectile firings in conjunction with the Army and USMC in the 90s, using Paladins. I always thought it was hilarious how they used to crow about the air conditioning in those things but the red legs always complained that they never worked (the AC going down never deadlined them, regardless of the heat), so the crews  broiled inside them on the move most of the times I worked with them.

As far as I know, they're only made in 1/72 and 1/32 scale that are worth anything (other smaller scales are made, but those are crappy toys for accuracy).

Lee, thanks so much for info and insight.  I decided to built the kit with everything glued "down" including hatches, cannon in/on transport support, 50BMG stowed, etc. .

This is the kit.

IMG_5666

Will mount it on a flat car.

I love that you're going to model it in it's travel configuration. I spent all my time in heavy mechanized units and had to rail-load stuff way too often it seemed.

I see people all the time model military equipment on trains with hatches open, unsecured loads and often with crew-served weapons in place. Can you bet how long a .50 caliber machine gun would last on a vehicle while going across the country on a train?

Can you imagine how fast I could yank said weapon off said vehicle if I was motivated? We were in a field exercise once and we had a scenario where a M1A1 tank was considered a 'mobility kill' and the area was about to be overrun (a wargame scenario with North Korea) so we had to strip all the sensitive items off it right away before the OPFOR got to us as there was no time to haul the whole tank off. I personally mounted the turret and had the 'Ma Duce' off the thing in less than 5 seconds (only two large mounting pins hold it in place). Darned near broke my back jumping off the hull with it, as I couldn't just throw it onto the ground (in real life, we would have). I normally would have had to yank the M240 off it as well but it didn't have one. My soldiers stripped the tank like ants on a dead beetle in less than a minute. I jumped back up with smoke grenades, simulating thermite, and tossed them into the engine deck and crew compartments. The range judges were in awe with how fast we took to the mission and got out of there with everything but the 1200MM main gun! We went from, "here's your mission" to driving off in the Humvees in less than 3 minutes. The range people said they'd never seen anything like it. "Nascar-fast" was what they called us. Man, I hadn't thought of that in a long time...

As for your model, just make sure you use a lot of blocking and chains!

Lee, maybe something like these?

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dodx40290asm

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mike g. posted:

Frank, Your layout service stations must have some bad gas! The cars look great,but in every picture there is a car hood up and someone working on it! LOL

Hi Mike G. Your remark got me to thinking, and what I discovered among the creative corners of my mind were childhood memories from my hometown in the Pittsburgh area, back in the 50's.

Nearly every gas station I ever saw, including the one at the bottom of our street, was a haven for guys to take their cars to for repairs. The one near me, an Atlantic gas station (if I recall the name correctly,) always had both of its bay doors wide open with work being done on cars constantly. Some attendant was always tinkering on cars brought in for regular or emergency service, either inside or out front or alongside the building

In fact, years later, in the early 70's, when I was driving home late one night from NYC into NJ, the Hot Engine light went on, so I drove to the nearest gas station hoping they could take care of my problem. They diagnosed the problem correctly and had  the necessary parts, and I was soon on my way.

Nowadays, of course, I would just hit the "Embrace" button and talk directly to the car company and get the problem solved.

So, you see, apparently, what I find myself modeling is my fond memories of gas stations being places to take vehicles for emergency and quick repairs. (They also had great, ice-cold Nehi grape soda, too, available in coolers like the red one you see here, outside and in front, because the place was a hangout, too. )IMG_0198x_edited-1

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Well, we sure can't put a hand on them anymore and say "Vvrrrooooom vvvrrrrooommm!!!!" like we did as kids when we pushed them down imaginary streets, but we can sure take pleasure in seeing them on our layouts posing there, so many of them the

real-life vehicles we never had but would have loved to have driven...John and Mary Sts. Intersection

IMG_0974FrankM

 

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