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Hi, New here. Our back yard actually adjoins the last remnant of the old Vandalia (PRR) R/R. And our town is rebuilding the old station (Flora, IN). Outside done, waiting for grants to finish the interior. When I had my first Lionel set in 1942, I "hated" that the engines did not have the more usual four wheel trucks. Mine was the 2-4-2 with Ives 1700 cars. Enough history... I have both the 2-6-2 and 2-4-2 versions of the 1668/1688 streamline engine. I got a 238 front truck and am hoping to make the 1688 into a "real" Pacific. It appears that I will have to re-bend the attaching tab and drill a new hole at the least, but there might be shorting issues with the axles hitting the shell of the engine. I thought of filing the ends down and dabbing some liquid electrical tape on the axles. 

Does anyone have any other suggestions? I also thought of drilling a new hole for the rear axle and moving it forward a tad.

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this is my 1668 I rebuilt from a bare shell. I used a 675 type motor, and a 238 front truck. I did have to trim about 1/8" off the front of the  bottom of the pilot. After running into the same issue with my 4-8-4 project, if I had thought about it then and found wheels with smaller flanges like I have on the 4-8-4 I probably wouldn't have need to trim. or if I had used a 1666 type motor with the smaller drivers. I'm working on a 221 that I'd like to do a four wheel pilot on.

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In checking the pictures I've received (Thank you) and looking at the loco and holding the pilot up to it, I think that possibly, I can grind about a quarter of an inch of the narrow bottom flange from the side of the pilot and not have to take the whole bottom off so as to preserve the original look as much as possible. I've also come to the conclusion that it might be better to have a donor shell to practice on, especially as mine has a bent place under the engineer's "ladder." Can you carefully tap the bent spot back into line with a brass hammer without the Zamac breaking or leave it alone? 

I think that moving the front wheels back about an eighth of an inch might give more clearance as well. Can you take one wheel off without a puller? 

In choosing what to do about the back of the pilot to attach it to the swivel screw head, I think that if needed, you could use a Zona saw to get into the main top part of the metal and make a shorter radius attaching tab. I think you could also make a lot of the work easier by taking the cross member out of the shell. (Duh!)  Another way to get more clearance in this area is to use a Dremel grinder to take the top ends from the motor frame where they protrude at the front, being careful of course not to get metal shavings into the motor. (Pardon me for noting things that you experts take as a matter of course.) And of course, any place you think metal to metal contact might cause a short, you can dab on the liquid electrical tape. You can also grind away the angled area at the front of the cross frame where the ends of the drive rods go on the 1688 for still more clearance.

One last question...This makes three, I think. What engine can be a donor for a cast trailing truck? If all this is successful, I'll post again with pictures.

I am a moderator on another Forum and am very impressed by the scope of this site. Well done!

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