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Does anybody know of/can recommend any books that have good information and pictures of the ATSF 2-10-10-2 Mallets? I figure with Lionel’s new 2021 release I’d like to get up to speed with this unordinary locomotive before I spend $2500. Unfortunately none of the books in my library of railroad literature talk about this locomotive at all! Thanks!

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In general, there is not a lot of documented history on the 3000 class but there are a few odds and ends. One book that I have found to be the most reliable, and have the most info, is Trains Magazines Guide to North American Steam Locomotives. Similar to everywhere else it talks about the 3000 class but not much. Sad to say, but this is one of those types of locomotives that just got swept under the rug when it fell through.

Also, this article is good as well: https://www.steamlocomotive.co...mp;railroad=atsf#418

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The book Iron Horses of the Santa Fe Trail is generally considered the definitive ATSF loco book around. If you can lay your hands on one, as in borrow (they tend to be expensive), they have several photos of the 2-10-10-2. I found a nice copy of this book for $50 several years ago - how I lucked into that bargain I'll never know.

The Lionel version is a good replica - I am not speaking of the fantasy paint schemes, here - I have the earlier Vision version. The engine is not actually encrusted with add-on detail, though - but real locos from that era pre-dated many modern appliances (such as feed water heaters and power reverse units), so their appearance was relatively simple and "piping free".

I love it - model and prototype.

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@Jeff2035 posted:

Will this loco have "safety valve steam"?

In the catalog it is not listed in the "feature" section but is mentioned in the narrative write up.

Sadly, no. It was confirmed on the Ryan and Dave Show last Friday that they wanted to put that feature in the locomotive but it was not possible to put it into the locomotive. In other words, Lionel jumped the gun and made a mistake.

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To Anyone Who May Want to Know More (eg. history, features) about Lionel's 'first' Santa Fe 2-10-10-2 (#3000) without having to dig for it on You Tube (because videos of it running are out there) the product number is 6-11155 and it appeared in the 2010 Signature Edition Volume One catalog.

P.S. to Trainmaster04 - I note that Lionel's 2010 printed catalog stated that the minimum curve required was 0-72 and the length was Approx. 31".   

@PH1975 posted:

To Anyone Who May Want to Know More (eg. history, features) about Lionel's 'first' Santa Fe 2-10-10-2 (#3000) without having to dig for it on You Tube (because videos of it running are out there) the product number is 6-11155 and it appeared in the 2010 Signature Edition Volume One catalog.

P.S. to Trainmaster04 - I note that Lionel's 2010 printed catalog stated that the minimum curve required was 0-72 and the length was Approx. 31".   

I see the same in my issue of both the 2009 v2 and 2010 v1 catalog. I also looked back in my 2009 v1 catalog, when they were first announced, and it did not give any details such as this. For the length, I knew it was smaller than a BB but around 30".

@PH1975 posted:

Trainmaster04 - Then again, the lack of 'details' provided in the 2009 v1 catalog may be attributable to the fact this was the first year Lionel was introducing the Vision Line, so I guess we can cut them a little slack for this.   

True, and also since it was more of a promotional release than an actual release. One thing that I wish Lionel continued from that catalog was their VL purchasing program. I thought it was a good idea since one, it encourages the buyer to purchase both the 3000 and the CC2, and two, it helps the buyer to afford these high dollar models. I saw it as a win win for both parties, but its Lionel we're talking about.

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