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Trainman2 posted:
Johnsgg1 posted:
CAPPilot posted:
Rider Sandman posted:
RickO posted:

I believe Lionel would sell a lot more H10s if they replaced the cow catcher with the foot board pilot to reflect how it looked after WWII. 

I agree.  I'd get one if they'd change the pilot.

I would like to see that plus an accurate sound system. I have the H-9 from 2002, and it looks great, pulls great, but has a less than stellar sound system.

Today's Legacy has a far superior chuff system, but the H-10 should also have a banshee whistle if they really want somebody who already has the H-9 to buy the new engine. The whistle they put in the H-9 is far too deep, and destroys the effect.

Lionel's H10 is really a model of an H9.  Since I did not buy the earlier H9, I would prefer Lionel goes back to calling it an H9 with an H9 cab number.

Or better yet, Lionel produces a more accurate H10 by replacing the cow catcher with a footboard pilot and removes the snifters (those round valves where the steam pipes meet the cylinders).   Add the banshee whistle and I'd add it to my buy list.

Surefire posted:

Any mention of the remainder of the American Freedom Train passenger cars? I really hope Lionel doesn't leave us hanging with half a set. 

There are a lot of us hoping we are not left with half a set.  There are a few cars that could be done without too much effort, like the 2nd generator car and the storage cars.  But the two showcase cars, four remaining crew cars, three 85' flatcars, and 85' tool car would be new tooling for Lionel.  It would be nice to get some info from Lionel on what their plans are for these cars. 

RickO posted:
DaveGG posted:

They also mentioned a new Vision-line Challenger (mentioned in an earlier post by others).  This will be the 2nd time the Challenger will be offered in the Vision-line series.

When do we get another vision line hudson? Specifically the 50th anniversary J3a. ( I'm convinced something must have happened to the tooling)

It would be Lionels best hudson ever. Great detail along with the VL whizz bang stuff.

The muddy tooling of the 700e had me uninterested.

Image result for lionel 50th anniversary hudson

I would like to see this as well(go figure). I know RickO and I have brought up Hudson at almost every turn, and he explained to me that this one was scale and the more like the real deal. I would want a Challenger as well, but they need to get an accurate Hudson. I would also like some of the streamlined variations like the Dreyfus, and the Mercury, but the real deal first. They would be able to get me for a few different road numbers just one that alone.

Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:
RickO posted:
DaveGG posted:

They also mentioned a new Vision-line Challenger (mentioned in an earlier post by others).  This will be the 2nd time the Challenger will be offered in the Vision-line series.

When do we get another vision line hudson? Specifically the 50th anniversary J3a. ( I'm convinced something must have happened to the tooling)

It would be Lionels best hudson ever. Great detail along with the VL whizz bang stuff.

The muddy tooling of the 700e had me uninterested.

Image result for lionel 50th anniversary hudson

I would like to see this as well(go figure). I know RickO and I have brought up Hudson at almost every turn, and he explained to me that this one was scale and the more like the real deal. I would want a Challenger as well, but they need to get an accurate Hudson. I would also like some of the streamlined variations like the Dreyfus, and the Mercury, but the real deal first. They would be able to get me for a few different road numbers just one that alone.

"Muddy tooling"? 700E? Don't be silly.

The J3a above - I have a couple - gorgeous - could reasonably be produced again, but, unless they bring it out in the "J3a 2.0" version (raised running boards/relocated power reverse and air reservoirs, Worthington FWH, PT-4 tender), I would not buy another.

It's not that I prefer version 2.0 - I love them both, but I lean a skosh to the as-built version, above - but I personally would not need another original, as the VL whizz-bangs are of no interest to me. So, new/modified tooling would be essential. Also, the "Selkirk" smokebox front would have to appear on some of them.

Rusty Traque posted:
NS1975 posted:

If you go to the Lionel Store online you can see the new stuff for 2019!

I was wondering how long it would be before this happened...

49er

Rusty

For everyone wondering, I checked...this ACTUALLY EXISTS. Lionel is re-releasing their fantastic Vision Challenger in this fantasy paint scheme. Not quite sure how I feel about it, kinda reminds me of the fantasy Hiawatha S-3 Northern Lionel released recently. It's definitely unique!

"Lionels is digging deep to not make new models "

There's a fair amount of new stuff for 2019 (perhaps not new tooling, but nobody but Lionel is doing much new tooling these days in any case).

American Flyer U33s, many UP Challengers other than the fantasy scheme, Alco PAs, lots of Thomas stuff, lots of MOW cars, Light Mikados, all in multiple road names, for instance.  Search under "new" and then look for the 2019 designation.

Matt Makens posted:

Holy smokes, 2 grand for the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen. Lionels is digging deep to not make new models 

I agree. Hideous.

The Hiawatha S-3 Northern fantasy scheme didn’t bother me because it was clearly derived from paint schemes the Milwaukee Road featured on its streamlined Class A Atlantic in 1935 and F-7 Hudson in 1938. Those schemes came from an artist’s eye and were carefully considered as part of the railroad’s marketing.

This U.P. Challenger scheme is a hodge podge of paint unlike anything U.P. ever did, or would ever care to do. Ugh!

Well, remember that this soon to be out catalog would have repeats, we all should know that since it was stated somewhere around here. As for the VL Challenger, I'll think about the normal ones. I will have to see when the new catalog comes out, what exactly peaks my interest. I'm always interested in rolling stock, so, see what else would be coming.

What is an interest is how their shipping list seems to be all over the place. Some things that were supposed to be out in July, now are up in the air as evident with the dates moved to December. I know Ryan had said in one of the TW vids(I believe) that he was pushing to try and get the Niagara's in September. I believe that they are still listed for October since that was his original target quote as he said last October at the unavailing.

I did see the PA's, but I think I will pass on those because I'm a big steamhead. Well, see what comes in the V1 2019 catalog in February/March next year.

TrainMan1225 posted:
Rusty Traque posted:
NS1975 posted:

If you go to the Lionel Store online you can see the new stuff for 2019!

I was wondering how long it would be before this happened...

49er

Rusty

For everyone wondering, I checked...this ACTUALLY EXISTS. Lionel is re-releasing their fantastic Vision Challenger in this fantasy paint scheme. Not quite sure how I feel about it, kinda reminds me of the fantasy Hiawatha S-3 Northern Lionel released recently. It's definitely unique!

I wouldn't pay $300 for it.  It's that ugly.

Well these will be tempting... A little modern though for me unfortunately.

but this is interesting...  Of course everyone will complain that it's for Fastrack.

Introduced in the 40s, the defect detector came along to take the place of station agents and alert on-board crew of dangerous defects on the train. As a train passes through, the IR beams can detect dragging equipment, gauge temperature, monitor speed and send a signal to the dispatcher and train crew that something is wrong. Now you can add the action to your layout realistically with this all new accessory! The new detector counts your axles and delivers an announcement after the train passes providing an axle count, approximate train speed and the occasional defect! Use the max/min switch to set a high or low frequency of problems. Every lap around your layout brings a new chance for excitement!


Features:

5" O Gauge FasTrack Section and building with the following features:
IR sensors detect and count the actual number of axles on a passing train and determines when track is clear
Calculates and relays by audio the number of axles, approx. speed, imaginary milepost information and reports defect detection status
Includes occasional defect announcements with warning sounds and announcements of imaginary car issues
Volume control and ON/OFF switch
Min/Max switch to adjust how often a defect is found
Gets power from track – can also be powered from accessory power supply (sold separately)
Product Specifications:

 

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MartyE posted:

Well these will be tempting... A little modern though for me unfortunately.

but this is interesting...  Of course everyone will complain that it's for Fastrack.

Introduced in the 40s, the defect detector came along to take the place of station agents and alert on-board crew of dangerous defects on the train. As a train passes through, the IR beams can detect dragging equipment, gauge temperature, monitor speed and send a signal to the dispatcher and train crew that something is wrong. Now you can add the action to your layout realistically with this all new accessory! The new detector counts your axles and delivers an announcement after the train passes providing an axle count, approximate train speed and the occasional defect! Use the max/min switch to set a high or low frequency of problems. Every lap around your layout brings a new chance for excitement!


Features:

5" O Gauge FasTrack Section and building with the following features:
IR sensors detect and count the actual number of axles on a passing train and determines when track is clear
Calculates and relays by audio the number of axles, approx. speed, imaginary milepost information and reports defect detection status
Includes occasional defect announcements with warning sounds and announcements of imaginary car issues
Volume control and ON/OFF switch
Min/Max switch to adjust how often a defect is found
Gets power from track – can also be powered from accessory power supply (sold separately)
Product Specifications:

 

I didn't notice the defect detector. Where was that located?

IC fan posted:
TrainMan1225 posted:
Rusty Traque posted:
NS1975 posted:

If you go to the Lionel Store online you can see the new stuff for 2019!

I was wondering how long it would be before this happened...

49er

Rusty

For everyone wondering, I checked...this ACTUALLY EXISTS. Lionel is re-releasing their fantastic Vision Challenger in this fantasy paint scheme. Not quite sure how I feel about it, kinda reminds me of the fantasy Hiawatha S-3 Northern Lionel released recently. It's definitely unique!

I wouldn't pay $300 for it.  It's that ugly.

It will go good with that Milwaukee S3 Hiawatha Circus engine. 

Last edited by breezinup
IC fan posted:
TrainMan1225 posted:
Rusty Traque posted:
NS1975 posted:

If you go to the Lionel Store online you can see the new stuff for 2019!

I was wondering how long it would be before this happened...

49er

Rusty

For everyone wondering, I checked...this ACTUALLY EXISTS. Lionel is re-releasing their fantastic Vision Challenger in this fantasy paint scheme. Not quite sure how I feel about it, kinda reminds me of the fantasy Hiawatha S-3 Northern Lionel released recently. It's definitely unique!

I wouldn't pay $300 for it.  It's that ugly.

Agreed. If I had 2 grand to spend on either this or a 2011 Vision Challenger, I’d take the old Challenger without saying a thing. It’s unique, but not a good unique. And the thing that really gets me is the the maroon lining around the wheels. Ewww... 🤮

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