I read more and more about a volume 2 catalog. I thought since the 2018 catalog included everything that was it for 2018.
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romiller49 posted:I read more and more about a volume 2 catalog. I thought since the 2018 catalog included everything that was it for 2018.
Ryan Kunkle has been saying from the first catalog that there would be a second. I suspect it will be like previous Volume IIs with a rehash of Volume I, a few added items, and a preview for 2019.
On one of the Ryan and Dave shows they mentioned models like the H-10 have numerous possiblities with roadnames and the two tender styles. I suspect we"ll see the H-10 in new offerings.
RickO posted:On one of the Ryan and Dave shows they mentioned models like the H-10 have numerous possiblities with roadnames and the two tender styles. I suspect we"ll see the H-10 in new offerings.
Hey Rick, I no nothing about the history of the H-10, but really liked the model's features, size, and price point. Any idea what other road names are possible given the history of the prototype (I realize fantasy schemes could make the answer infinite)?
It would be cool to see some more Amtrak stuff like a metroliner or acs64. Or some NJt Arrow 3s or an ALP45DP
MartyE posted:romiller49 posted:I read more and more about a volume 2 catalog. I thought since the 2018 catalog included everything that was it for 2018.
Ryan Kunkle has been saying from the first catalog that there would be a second. I suspect it will be like previous Volume IIs with a rehash of Volume I, a few added items, and a preview for 2019.
Well that is a disappointment. I was hoping the new Hybrid was going to be announced, some hints on the new vision line release and a possibly a couple of revitalized steam releases... like possibly another Challenger or PRR M1b?
Also, a few add on cars coming for my UP excursion set?
Well I've been known to look at the glass as being half full...
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Et44ac or AC4400cw would be awesome (scale)
J Daddy posted:MartyE posted:romiller49 posted:I read more and more about a volume 2 catalog. I thought since the 2018 catalog included everything that was it for 2018.
Ryan Kunkle has been saying from the first catalog that there would be a second. I suspect it will be like previous Volume IIs with a rehash of Volume I, a few added items, and a preview for 2019.
Well that is a disappointment. I was hoping the new Hybrid was going to be announced, some hints on the new vision line release and a possibly a couple of revitalized steam releases... like possibly another Challenger or PRR M1b?
Also, a few add on cars coming for my UP excursion set?
What's the disappointment? I said "I suspect". I imagine the Brass Hybrid announced. We don't know yet. It's all conjecture until tonight or August 20th.
Rider Sandman posted:RickO posted:On one of the Ryan and Dave shows they mentioned models like the H-10 have numerous possiblities with roadnames and the two tender styles. I suspect we"ll see the H-10 in new offerings.
Hey Rick, I no nothing about the history of the H-10, but really liked the model's features, size, and price point. Any idea what other road names are possible given the history of the prototype (I realize fantasy schemes could make the answer infinite)?
I believe Lionel would sell a lot more H10s if they replaced the cow catcher with the foot board pilot to reflect how it looked after WWII.
LoganUP1982 posted:Et44ac or AC4400cw would be awesome (scale)
Only if the headlight is in the correct location per road name unlike the ES44AC.
I do remember when Ryan visited TrainWorld in 2016(I believe), he was asked about Strasburg #90. His reply was he knew #90 well since he worked out there and it was something definitely on his list. I would say that it will come based on that, just a question of when since I don't think they have ever done an engine like that. If they do indeed do it, it will have to be perfect otherwise I would imagine Ryan would get the evil eye.
Whatever does come out will as most usually say, stuff from the other catalog with some new things here or there. I'm not sure what I would be looking for, though some would say Hudson. I think that we may get something that has been a while (I hope).
BobbyD posted:LoganUP1982 posted:Et44ac or AC4400cw would be awesome (scale)
Only if the headlight is in the correct location per road name unlike the ES44AC.
Only if Norfolk southern placed the headlight in the same place everyone else did.
AmtrakNickFilms posted:It would be cool to see some more Amtrak stuff like a metroliner or acs64. Or some NJt Arrow 3s or an ALP45DP
Agreed 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We need more equipment of today!
I can't wait! Maybe more new subways or scale M7's 8's or the new M9's. I would love a re-run of the 2-10-4 Texas with cylinder steam and whistle steam.
And yeah, brass hybrid! Maybe it will be a beautiful passenger steamer.
Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:I do remember when Ryan visited TrainWorld in 2016(I believe), he was asked about Strasburg #90. His reply was he knew #90 well since he worked out there and it was something definitely on his list. I would say that it will come based on that, just a question of when since I don't think they have ever done an engine like that. If they do indeed do it, it will have to be perfect otherwise I would imagine Ryan would get the evil eye.
Whatever does come out will as most usually say, stuff from the other catalog with some new things here or there. I'm not sure what I would be looking for, though some would say Hudson. I think that we may get something that has been a while (I hope).
If they make number 90, or any other Strasburg Steam, it will need a full-sized front end coupler.
I would love to see a rutland mogul that runs correctly right out of the box and not take a year to fix.
Do you think that will in the new catalog?
Lionel went over the new catalog at the LCCA convention today. Ugh. LOTS of UP is all I really remember. Some SD40-2’s too.
Sam Jumper posted:Lionel went over the new catalog at the LCCA convention today. Ugh. LOTS of UP is all I really remember. Some SD40-2’s too.
Ant good steam? Modern stuff?
Any good steamers?
Legacy camelback with whistle steam
Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:Legacy camelback with whistle steam
WHATTTT!!!!!!! Thats awesome!
@T1Titan_ZachF posted:Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:Legacy camelback with whistle steam
WHATTTT!!!!!!! Thats awesome!
I'm just dreaming..... I wish, but who knows.... maybe. I think they have the tooling for it
Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:@T1Titan_ZachF posted:Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:Legacy camelback with whistle steam
WHATTTT!!!!!!! Thats awesome!
I'm just dreaming..... I wish, but who knows.... maybe. I think they have the tooling for it
Ahh you fooled me well, we all know what happened last time lionel released legacy camelbacks, CANCELED.
@T1Titan_ZachF posted:Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:@T1Titan_ZachF posted:Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:Legacy camelback with whistle steam
WHATTTT!!!!!!! Thats awesome!
I'm just dreaming..... I wish, but who knows.... maybe. I think they have the tooling for it
Ahh you fooled me well, we all know what happened last time lionel released legacy camelbacks, CANCELED.
For real! I missed that. Hopefully they try again
Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:Any good steamers?
I want to say there were many many Challengers. Fantasy paint schemes as I recall, and cabooses to match. They're coming back with the O27-ish auto loader cars, but the mid-90’s version, not the modern or postwar fame. Both O and S, but the S cars are really just O27 cars with S trucks. IMO, a rather ugly and uninspired BNSF 40’ Boxcar that I think was from Weaver molds. Sorry, I couldn’t really pay attention during the presentation. Too much talk about the new Frozen train set, a retail store in NC, Lionel kids furniture and fabric. I guess I was expecting some real sexy talk, but hey, there’s a $50 range O New Bright type line coming. HO track with magnet connectors. Lots of flashy sales catch words, but not a peep about how hard they’re trying to improve QC and the like.
I might take a D&H challenger, depending on msrp
Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:I might take a D&H challenger, depending on msrp
Sorry, don’t remember. I think Rio Grande, SP Daylight.....plus others. I want to say there were six flavors. One of them in some gray/red scheme has a matching boxcar that I just remembered had cool looking lettering.
The new brass hybrid, a Norfolk & Western J, was announced at the LCCA meeting today. Pre order is up and running on the Lionel Store website. This is only offered through the Lionel Store website. Available in pilot and several painted N&W versions.
http://www.lionelstore.com/LEG...Hybrid-K2-Pilot-9999
Sales numbers of the initial hybrid met their expectations. (Spoke with Lionel's Sales Director).
They also mentioned a new Vision-line Challenger (mentioned in an earlier post by others). This will be the 2nd time the Challenger will be offered in the Vision-line series.
Sam Jumper posted:Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:I might take a D&H challenger, depending on msrp
Sorry, don’t remember. I think Rio Grande, SP Daylight..... I want to say there were six flavors.
Sp daylight... no thank you, Rio Grande, if they can get the details right for the L-105 challenger that would be awesome. Also western Maryland and D&H had challengers so let's see..... I'm curious to see the details.
DaveGG posted:The new brass hybrid, a Norfolk & Western J, was announced at the LCCA meeting today. Pre order is up and running on the Lionel Store website. This is only offered through the Lionel Store website. Available in pilot and several painted N&W versions.
http://www.lionelstore.com/LEG...Hybrid-K2-Pilot-9999
Sales numbers of the initial hybrid met their expectations. (Spoke with Lionel's Sales Director).
They also mentioned a new Vision-line Challenger (mentioned in an earlier post by others). This will be the 2nd time the Challenger will be offered in the Vision-line series.
Here's all 5 of them.
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CAPPilot posted:Rider Sandman posted:RickO posted:On one of the Ryan and Dave shows they mentioned models like the H-10 have numerous possiblities with roadnames and the two tender styles. I suspect we"ll see the H-10 in new offerings.
Hey Rick, I no nothing about the history of the H-10, but really liked the model's features, size, and price point. Any idea what other road names are possible given the history of the prototype (I realize fantasy schemes could make the answer infinite)?
I believe Lionel would sell a lot more H10s if they replaced the cow catcher with the foot board pilot to reflect how it looked after WWII.
I agree. I'd get one if they'd change the pilot.
Johnsgg1 posted:CAPPilot posted:Rider Sandman posted:RickO posted:On one of the Ryan and Dave shows they mentioned models like the H-10 have numerous possiblities with roadnames and the two tender styles. I suspect we"ll see the H-10 in new offerings.
Hey Rick, I no nothing about the history of the H-10, but really liked the model's features, size, and price point. Any idea what other road names are possible given the history of the prototype (I realize fantasy schemes could make the answer infinite)?
I believe Lionel would sell a lot more H10s if they replaced the cow catcher with the foot board pilot to reflect how it looked after WWII.
I agree. I'd get one if they'd change the pilot.
I would like to see that plus an accurate sound system. I have the H-9 from 2002, and it looks great, pulls great, but has a less than stellar sound system.
Today's Legacy has a far superior chuff system, but the H-10 should also have a banshee whistle if they really want somebody who already has the H-9 to buy the new engine. The whistle they put in the H-9 is far too deep, and destroys the effect.
Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:I might take a D&H challenger, depending on msrp
I would only be interested in this if the headlight was mounted properly in the smokebox door. It was the most easily distinguishing D&H feature versus the other challengers.
I wouldn't hesitate for a second if a true D&H Challenger was produced. With a hint of European styling, it was most distinctive; headlight, stack, sleek boiler and tender. Anyone would be glad to have one on their roster. It would complete my steam bucket list so count me in on this one!
DaveGG posted:The new brass hybrid, a Norfolk & Western J, was announced at the LCCA meeting today. Pre order is up and running on the Lionel Store website. This is only offered through the Lionel Store website. Available in pilot and several painted N&W versions.
http://www.lionelstore.com/LEG...Hybrid-K2-Pilot-9999
Sales numbers of the initial hybrid met their expectations. (Spoke with Lionel's Sales Director).
They also mentioned a new Vision-line Challenger (mentioned in an earlier post by others). This will be the 2nd time the Challenger will be offered in the Vision-line series.
Actually it's a K2, not a J. 4-8-2, not a 4-8-4. I've got one that 3rdRail/Sunset did a few years ago. A nice compliment to those w/Js in their collection already.
DaveGG posted:They also mentioned a new Vision-line Challenger (mentioned in an earlier post by others). This will be the 2nd time the Challenger will be offered in the Vision-line series.
When do we get another vision line hudson? Specifically the 50th anniversary J3a. ( I'm convinced something must have happened to the tooling)
It would be Lionels best hudson ever. Great detail along with the VL whizz bang stuff.
The muddy tooling of the 700e had me uninterested.
i hope there is a camera locomotive and more lionchief tier 4s and a few good starter sets as well as more ho stuff
romiller49 posted:I read more and more about a volume 2 catalog. I thought since the 2018 catalog included everything that was it for 2018.
One more time: Lionel never said there would be no Vol. 2 catalog in 2018.
What Lionel did say is that the Vol. 1 catalog would be all in one — no separate Christmas, ready to run, American Flyer or track and power catalogs as Lionel has done in the past. It was all in one catalog.
Any mention of the remainder of the American Freedom Train passenger cars? I really hope Lionel doesn't leave us hanging with half a set.
Trainman2 posted:Johnsgg1 posted:CAPPilot posted:Rider Sandman posted:RickO posted:I believe Lionel would sell a lot more H10s if they replaced the cow catcher with the foot board pilot to reflect how it looked after WWII.
I agree. I'd get one if they'd change the pilot.
I would like to see that plus an accurate sound system. I have the H-9 from 2002, and it looks great, pulls great, but has a less than stellar sound system.
Today's Legacy has a far superior chuff system, but the H-10 should also have a banshee whistle if they really want somebody who already has the H-9 to buy the new engine. The whistle they put in the H-9 is far too deep, and destroys the effect.
Lionel's H10 is really a model of an H9. Since I did not buy the earlier H9, I would prefer Lionel goes back to calling it an H9 with an H9 cab number.
Or better yet, Lionel produces a more accurate H10 by replacing the cow catcher with a footboard pilot and removes the snifters (those round valves where the steam pipes meet the cylinders). Add the banshee whistle and I'd add it to my buy list.
Surefire posted:Any mention of the remainder of the American Freedom Train passenger cars? I really hope Lionel doesn't leave us hanging with half a set.
There are a lot of us hoping we are not left with half a set. There are a few cars that could be done without too much effort, like the 2nd generator car and the storage cars. But the two showcase cars, four remaining crew cars, three 85' flatcars, and 85' tool car would be new tooling for Lionel. It would be nice to get some info from Lionel on what their plans are for these cars.
If they are making 40' trailers, why not make the 60's era 85' flat cars?
Andrew
The O scale PS-5 gondola has not been produced in the SOUTHERN scheme yet. ILLINOIS CENTRAL, SOO LINE, and ELGIN, JOLIET & EASTERN had similar gondolas. Why not those?
Probably not in 2018 Vol 2, I see Nicholas Smith is offering an exclusive PRR K4 #295 with E6 tender, Lionel item number 1831070. Their website has info on it.
ed h posted:Probably not in 2018 Vol 2, I see Nicholas Smith is offering an exclusive PRR K4 #295 with E6 tender, Lionel item number 1831070. Their website has info on it.
That's awesome! Better then the long haul tender
RickO posted:DaveGG posted:They also mentioned a new Vision-line Challenger (mentioned in an earlier post by others). This will be the 2nd time the Challenger will be offered in the Vision-line series.
When do we get another vision line hudson? Specifically the 50th anniversary J3a. ( I'm convinced something must have happened to the tooling)
It would be Lionels best hudson ever. Great detail along with the VL whizz bang stuff.
The muddy tooling of the 700e had me uninterested.
I would like to see this as well(go figure). I know RickO and I have brought up Hudson at almost every turn, and he explained to me that this one was scale and the more like the real deal. I would want a Challenger as well, but they need to get an accurate Hudson. I would also like some of the streamlined variations like the Dreyfus, and the Mercury, but the real deal first. They would be able to get me for a few different road numbers just one that alone.
The O scale 86' box car has to be produced in Detroit, Toledo & Ironton.
Andrew
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Ron and Surefire,
The newest episode of the Ryan and Dave show discussed the Freedom Train passenger cars. It was a question posed from the viewing audience, and the response was essentially they will be coming, but not in this next catalog.
Ben
Dave NYC Hudson PRR K4 posted:RickO posted:DaveGG posted:They also mentioned a new Vision-line Challenger (mentioned in an earlier post by others). This will be the 2nd time the Challenger will be offered in the Vision-line series.
When do we get another vision line hudson? Specifically the 50th anniversary J3a. ( I'm convinced something must have happened to the tooling)
It would be Lionels best hudson ever. Great detail along with the VL whizz bang stuff.
The muddy tooling of the 700e had me uninterested.
I would like to see this as well(go figure). I know RickO and I have brought up Hudson at almost every turn, and he explained to me that this one was scale and the more like the real deal. I would want a Challenger as well, but they need to get an accurate Hudson. I would also like some of the streamlined variations like the Dreyfus, and the Mercury, but the real deal first. They would be able to get me for a few different road numbers just one that alone.
"Muddy tooling"? 700E? Don't be silly.
The J3a above - I have a couple - gorgeous - could reasonably be produced again, but, unless they bring it out in the "J3a 2.0" version (raised running boards/relocated power reverse and air reservoirs, Worthington FWH, PT-4 tender), I would not buy another.
It's not that I prefer version 2.0 - I love them both, but I lean a skosh to the as-built version, above - but I personally would not need another original, as the VL whizz-bangs are of no interest to me. So, new/modified tooling would be essential. Also, the "Selkirk" smokebox front would have to appear on some of them.
If you go to the Lionel Store online you can see the new stuff for 2019!
that 49er challenger is dope too bad i don't have money and o-72 curves i just love the fantasy schemes man
do me a favor slap that scheme on a lionmaster challenger and i'll sell my liver for the cash to bring her home and put her to work on Allegheny Federation. 
falconservice posted:The O scale 86' box car has to be produced in Detroit, Toledo & Ironton.
Andrew
Hey Andrew, go to their online store. I think you’ll be happy.....
NS1975 posted:If you go to the Lionel Store online you can see the new stuff for 2019!
I was wondering how long it would be before this happened...
Rusty
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I didn't think it was possible to make a challenger ugly; until now that is. How awful. I'm sure it will sell lots to the orange-blue gang.
Rusty Traque posted:NS1975 posted:If you go to the Lionel Store online you can see the new stuff for 2019!
I was wondering how long it would be before this happened...
Rusty
Best fantasy scheme by Lionel yet! IMO
Holy smokes, 2 grand for the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen. Lionels is digging deep to not make new models
Rusty Traque posted:NS1975 posted:If you go to the Lionel Store online you can see the new stuff for 2019!
I was wondering how long it would be before this happened...
Rusty
For everyone wondering, I checked...this ACTUALLY EXISTS. Lionel is re-releasing their fantastic Vision Challenger in this fantasy paint scheme. Not quite sure how I feel about it, kinda reminds me of the fantasy Hiawatha S-3 Northern Lionel released recently. It's definitely unique!
"Lionels is digging deep to not make new models "
There's a fair amount of new stuff for 2019 (perhaps not new tooling, but nobody but Lionel is doing much new tooling these days in any case).
American Flyer U33s, many UP Challengers other than the fantasy scheme, Alco PAs, lots of Thomas stuff, lots of MOW cars, Light Mikados, all in multiple road names, for instance. Search under "new" and then look for the 2019 designation.
Matt Makens posted:Holy smokes, 2 grand for the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen. Lionels is digging deep to not make new models
I agree. Hideous.
The Hiawatha S-3 Northern fantasy scheme didn’t bother me because it was clearly derived from paint schemes the Milwaukee Road featured on its streamlined Class A Atlantic in 1935 and F-7 Hudson in 1938. Those schemes came from an artist’s eye and were carefully considered as part of the railroad’s marketing.
This U.P. Challenger scheme is a hodge podge of paint unlike anything U.P. ever did, or would ever care to do. Ugh!
NOT pretty at all !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, remember that this soon to be out catalog would have repeats, we all should know that since it was stated somewhere around here. As for the VL Challenger, I'll think about the normal ones. I will have to see when the new catalog comes out, what exactly peaks my interest. I'm always interested in rolling stock, so, see what else would be coming.
What is an interest is how their shipping list seems to be all over the place. Some things that were supposed to be out in July, now are up in the air as evident with the dates moved to December. I know Ryan had said in one of the TW vids(I believe) that he was pushing to try and get the Niagara's in September. I believe that they are still listed for October since that was his original target quote as he said last October at the unavailing.
I did see the PA's, but I think I will pass on those because I'm a big steamhead. Well, see what comes in the V1 2019 catalog in February/March next year. 
My eyes hurt looking at that thing. I prefer Freddie Krueger. How about a five stripe Challenger in tuscan? Wait . . . I have it . . . . a scale Hogwarts Challenger with Harry in the depleting Quiddich tender.
I just checked the online store an hour ago and saw that they have the Detroit, Toledo & Ironton 86' boxcars in blue, green, and pink.
Then they have to have O scale C&O Chessie gondolas, DT&I gondolas, EJ&E gondolas, and South Shore Gondolas.
I will have to spread out the gondolas over a few months.
Andrew
They have the Central Vermont RS-11 diesel locomotives in the final bright green and bright yellow scheme. There were CV GP9 diesel locos in that scheme operating on the Grand Trunk Western, so perhaps the CV RS-11 will be a substitute.
Andrew
I like many of Lionel's fantasy paint schemes (I was a big fan of the SP AC-9 in Daylight). But this new UP Challenger is...not attractive.
Nice to see some non-powered locomotives return to the line-up and some Aussie power!!
Rob
TrainMan1225 posted:Rusty Traque posted:NS1975 posted:If you go to the Lionel Store online you can see the new stuff for 2019!
I was wondering how long it would be before this happened...
Rusty
For everyone wondering, I checked...this ACTUALLY EXISTS. Lionel is re-releasing their fantastic Vision Challenger in this fantasy paint scheme. Not quite sure how I feel about it, kinda reminds me of the fantasy Hiawatha S-3 Northern Lionel released recently. It's definitely unique!
I wouldn't pay $300 for it. It's that ugly.
Well these will be tempting... A little modern though for me unfortunately.
but this is interesting... Of course everyone will complain that it's for Fastrack.
Introduced in the 40s, the defect detector came along to take the place of station agents and alert on-board crew of dangerous defects on the train. As a train passes through, the IR beams can detect dragging equipment, gauge temperature, monitor speed and send a signal to the dispatcher and train crew that something is wrong. Now you can add the action to your layout realistically with this all new accessory! The new detector counts your axles and delivers an announcement after the train passes providing an axle count, approximate train speed and the occasional defect! Use the max/min switch to set a high or low frequency of problems. Every lap around your layout brings a new chance for excitement!
Features:
5" O Gauge FasTrack Section and building with the following features:
IR sensors detect and count the actual number of axles on a passing train and determines when track is clear
Calculates and relays by audio the number of axles, approx. speed, imaginary milepost information and reports defect detection status
Includes occasional defect announcements with warning sounds and announcements of imaginary car issues
Volume control and ON/OFF switch
Min/Max switch to adjust how often a defect is found
Gets power from track – can also be powered from accessory power supply (sold separately)
Product Specifications:
Not that it helps any, but the aux water tender description sez it’s a “forty niner” ‘49er paint scheme. Seems to match the UP Challenger.
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I need a defect detector for the women I’ve been dating
NS1975 posted:If you go to the Lionel Store online you can see the new stuff for 2019!
Don't see it.
breezinup posted:NS1975 posted:If you go to the Lionel Store online you can see the new stuff for 2019!
Don't see it.
MartyE posted:Well these will be tempting... A little modern though for me unfortunately.
but this is interesting... Of course everyone will complain that it's for Fastrack.
Introduced in the 40s, the defect detector came along to take the place of station agents and alert on-board crew of dangerous defects on the train. As a train passes through, the IR beams can detect dragging equipment, gauge temperature, monitor speed and send a signal to the dispatcher and train crew that something is wrong. Now you can add the action to your layout realistically with this all new accessory! The new detector counts your axles and delivers an announcement after the train passes providing an axle count, approximate train speed and the occasional defect! Use the max/min switch to set a high or low frequency of problems. Every lap around your layout brings a new chance for excitement!
Features:5" O Gauge FasTrack Section and building with the following features:
IR sensors detect and count the actual number of axles on a passing train and determines when track is clear
Calculates and relays by audio the number of axles, approx. speed, imaginary milepost information and reports defect detection status
Includes occasional defect announcements with warning sounds and announcements of imaginary car issues
Volume control and ON/OFF switch
Min/Max switch to adjust how often a defect is found
Gets power from track – can also be powered from accessory power supply (sold separately)
Product Specifications:
I didn't notice the defect detector. Where was that located?
Train Nut posted:I didn't notice the defect detector. Where was that located?
Accessories
Matt Makens posted:I need a defect detector for the women I’ve been dating
That’s what your mother is for.
Why yall beating up on that challenger so bad
that thing is awesome - not that i have the cash but imagine double heading that sucker with the daylight ac9
and that halloween rs11 WOAH man just Woah
hash tag the foam just got real
that rs11 with that big angry bat face in the back with strobes going off
AWESOME
IC fan posted:TrainMan1225 posted:Rusty Traque posted:NS1975 posted:If you go to the Lionel Store online you can see the new stuff for 2019!
I was wondering how long it would be before this happened...
Rusty
For everyone wondering, I checked...this ACTUALLY EXISTS. Lionel is re-releasing their fantastic Vision Challenger in this fantasy paint scheme. Not quite sure how I feel about it, kinda reminds me of the fantasy Hiawatha S-3 Northern Lionel released recently. It's definitely unique!
I wouldn't pay $300 for it. It's that ugly.
It will go good with that Milwaukee S3 Hiawatha Circus engine.
IC fan posted:
TrainMan1225 posted:Rusty Traque posted:NS1975 posted:If you go to the Lionel Store online you can see the new stuff for 2019!
I was wondering how long it would be before this happened...
Rusty
For everyone wondering, I checked...this ACTUALLY EXISTS. Lionel is re-releasing their fantastic Vision Challenger in this fantasy paint scheme. Not quite sure how I feel about it, kinda reminds me of the fantasy Hiawatha S-3 Northern Lionel released recently. It's definitely unique!
I wouldn't pay $300 for it. It's that ugly.
Agreed. If I had 2 grand to spend on either this or a 2011 Vision Challenger, I’d take the old Challenger without saying a thing. It’s unique, but not a good unique. And the thing that really gets me is the the maroon lining around the wheels. Ewww... 🤮
TedW posted:Not that it helps any, but the aux water tender description sez it’s a “forty niner” ‘49er paint scheme. Seems to match the UP Challenger.
I’d prefer an actual Legacy ‘49er. I wouldn’t buy that, period.
breezinup posted:IC fan posted:TrainMan1225 posted:Rusty Traque posted:NS1975 posted:If you go to the Lionel Store online you can see the new stuff for 2019!
I was wondering how long it would be before this happened...
Rusty
For everyone wondering, I checked...this ACTUALLY EXISTS. Lionel is re-releasing their fantastic Vision Challenger in this fantasy paint scheme. Not quite sure how I feel about it, kinda reminds me of the fantasy Hiawatha S-3 Northern Lionel released recently. It's definitely unique!
I wouldn't pay $300 for it. It's that ugly.
It will go good with that Milwaukee S3 Hiawatha Circus engine.
The S-3 looked kind of neat, this just looks bad.
This guys loves it:
Best part is, they're gonna say how "hot" of a seller it is. I still doubt the so called poularity of that Hiawatha S3.
Jim R. posted:Matt Makens posted:Holy smokes, 2 grand for the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen. Lionels is digging deep to not make new models
I agree. Hideous.
The Hiawatha S-3 Northern fantasy scheme didn’t bother me because it was clearly derived from paint schemes the Milwaukee Road featured on its streamlined Class A Atlantic in 1935 and F-7 Hudson in 1938. Those schemes came from an artist’s eye and were carefully considered as part of the railroad’s marketing.
This U.P. Challenger scheme is a hodge podge of paint unlike anything U.P. ever did, or would ever care to do. Ugh!
Um...
Although I agree, looks terrible on a Challenger.
Rusty
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Just went to look back at a few things I saw earlier today but none of the 2019 product seems to be there anymore...……….
Can we talk about the (not E6) Atlantics and Mountains (not Mikados) returning after a 16+ year hiatus? Glad to see old ones not done in over a decade than the same engine done less than 4 years old. Maybe there is some hope Lionel will do a Legacy rerelease of the NYC J3a after all!
Craig, the dogs have to like em first
what i'm most excited for
gripe all you want
paigetrain posted:what i'm most excited for
gripe all you want
No griping here.... I love that Lionel is stepping out of the box and creating fantasy schemes and high end Halloween trains. Others dont and that's cool, just as long as We all can have our fun.
I bought the Daylight AC9 and love it. This challenger is awesome! Not sure if I'm in yet. There's other stuff I'm excited for too. Rio grande Silver Aspen PA's with legacy, super bass B unit & all 3 units powered!!!
If the Missouri Pacific light Mountain #5307 looks like this.....
than we have a winner......Bring on those Sunshine Special cars!!!!!!!!!
By the way the Frisco 1501 is a winner too. Looks just like the the one preserved in Missouri (Based on pictures of other light mountain I have seen on the web). Yes I want a 1522 as well but Lionel's model does not look like the 1522.
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robmcc posted:Just went to look back at a few things I saw earlier today but none of the 2019 product seems to be there anymore...……….
Looks like they just pulled it. Wish they did it before folks posted those challenger pictures....I can't "unsee" that.
Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:paigetrain posted:what i'm most excited for
gripe all you want
No griping here.... I love that Lionel is stepping out of the box and creating fantasy schemes and high end Halloween trains. Others dont and that's cool, just as long as We all can have our fun.
I bought the Daylight AC9 and love it. This challenger is awesome! Not sure if I'm in yet. There's other stuff I'm excited for too. Rio grande Silver Aspen PA's with legacy, super bass B unit & all 3 units powered!!!
imagine weathering both challenger and daylight AC9 and doubleheading them on the same freight train
paigetrain posted:what i'm most excited for
gripe all you want
omg 
Let's not forget the Halloween USRA Pacific from the last catalog. Sorry, not paying $1400 for a Halloween engine.
I hope this group of fantasy paint schemes represents the minority of the catalog. Sure, they're neat, but some of them (especially the ones you showcased) are kind of bad-looking. In next year's catalog, I'll be expecting a NKP Berkshire in the blue and white scheme like on an NKP Alco PA.
Personally, I'm excited to see how the Brass Hybrid N&W Class K turns out. And the apparent possibility of seeing some Strasburg stuff in the catalog has me excited.
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Looks like the 2019 stuff was removed. But I did happen to see 3 SCALE NYC bunk, tool and kitchen (sound) MOW cars !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SIRT posted:Looks like the 2019 stuff was removed. But I did happen to see 3 SCALE NYC bunk, tool and kitchen (sound) MOW cars !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes these are awesome! I'm probably gonna go for PRR.
paigetrain posted:Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:paigetrain posted:what i'm most excited for
gripe all you want
No griping here.... I love that Lionel is stepping out of the box and creating fantasy schemes and high end Halloween trains. Others dont and that's cool, just as long as We all can have our fun.
I bought the Daylight AC9 and love it. This challenger is awesome! Not sure if I'm in yet. There's other stuff I'm excited for too. Rio grande Silver Aspen PA's with legacy, super bass B unit & all 3 units powered!!!
imagine weathering both challenger and daylight AC9 and doubleheading them on the same freight train
I weather a lot of my models but not the daylight AC9 or the 49er challenger if I get one.
The defect detector unit looks interesting to me. The reefer sound cars looked pretty nice too.
Rusty Traque posted:Jim R. posted:Matt Makens posted:Holy smokes, 2 grand for the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen. Lionels is digging deep to not make new models
I agree. Hideous.
The Hiawatha S-3 Northern fantasy scheme didn’t bother me because it was clearly derived from paint schemes the Milwaukee Road featured on its streamlined Class A Atlantic in 1935 and F-7 Hudson in 1938. Those schemes came from an artist’s eye and were carefully considered as part of the railroad’s marketing.
This U.P. Challenger scheme is a hodge podge of paint unlike anything U.P. ever did, or would ever care to do. Ugh!
Um...
Although I agree, looks terrible on a Challenger.
Rusty
Can’t say I like the colors, but the flowing lines of paint on the streamliner shows a sensible aesthetic. Not so for the Challenger, which is hardly inspired.
"Let's not forget the Halloween USRA Pacific from the last catalog. Sorry, not paying $1400 for a Halloween engine."
Darned if I can remember that anyone asked you to buy the Halloween loc.
With luck, this beauty will be running on my layout in the Fall. 
I might even post pix - and you still don't have to buy it.
SIRT posted:Looks like the 2019 stuff was removed. But I did happen to see 3 SCALE NYC bunk, tool and kitchen (sound) MOW cars !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess it was a website oops then. Bunk car sounds great, hopefully the catalog gets uploaded soon so many of us can eye it up and get more details on what is truly there. I know I would love to see any of the old streamlined steamers as well as one of the green Southern steamers(missed out on the Crescent Limited).
I don't mind fantasy paint schemes, so do actually look pretty good, but the 49'er on the Challenger is pretty hard to take. Perhaps if they gave a complete side view maybe more of us would find it "okay", as the closeness of the color is dizzying. The one thing I could not ascertain from our short viewing time was whether they were coal or oil fired. I did read and there was no mention of real coal that I saw. Anyone see anything like that?
Someone might as well paint a legacy 844 yellow or make a purple colored Amtrak dash 9 at this point. Looks like there is no Strasburg product in sight for this catalog.
