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Because I’ve been a consistent critic of the new cheapo trucks, I would definitely be in for some new rolling stock - especially some PS1 boxcars or diecast offset hoppers - if the trucks are indeed reverting back to the previous design (to put my money where my mouth is).  I would also be in for a Legacy NKP Consolidation with a swingin’ bell. 

irish rifle posted:

Due in large part to consistent feedback from its customers and dealers, Lionel has decided to resume manufacturing its scale freight and passenger cars with its former best in class die-cast sprung trucks and couplers with hidden uncoupling tabs. 

Is this true or what you are hoping for? 

johnstrains posted:

I know it's probably wishful thinking but I'll put in a request for something in the Postwar-inspired / conventional category. Lionel has pretty much abandoned these but still think there's a loyal following.

I really like some of the Postwar Celebration stuff from the early 2000's and have been picking up a few things here and there lately. I was a kid during the MPC period but was always attracted to some of the more iconic Postwar pieces and love the modern remakes that have been done. I wouldn't mind seeing a few more made but doubt it will happen.

PWC was a cool idea. I even picked up a new mint budd set with 2- 2559’s in which I could never justify buying at those ridiculous prices.

Modelers have moved on past the toy cars to true detailed O along with the electronic advancements of today. No demand for non-scale anymore. You either have it all, look toward more realistic items or are just plain uninformed about all the numerous O variations.

I am chomping at the bit to see the new catalog!   Im hoping for anything in Southern in rolling stock.   And maybe something Southern in LC or LC+ engines?   I have all 3 of the LC+ engines made so far in Southern.  Would like to have a 4rth, 5th and 6th! And I'd like to find a 2401B Southern switcher.   Have the A.   

Jim 

pennsy484 posted:
irish rifle posted:

Due in large part to consistent feedback from its customers and dealers, Lionel has decided to resume manufacturing its scale freight and passenger cars with its former best in class die-cast sprung trucks and couplers with hidden uncoupling tabs. 

Is this true or what you are hoping for? 

Jeff:

The thread asked about rumors. We will know whether there is any validity to it when the new catalog comes out. There are many of us that hope there is.

Pat 

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xrayvizhen posted:

If the catalog pages are bound into the spine as well as their couplers stay connected to each other, we'll have 200 or so loose sheets.

I would like to see more LC+ though and possibly an ERR board & remote that converts postwar engines to a similar LC+ radio control.

I don't have a clue as to what will be in the new catalogue but I agree with xray, new LC+ rather than new road names on old engines and the ability to convert conventional locos to LC+.

MR-150 posted:

If Lionel has the old Weaver Alco RS3 tooling,how about using it and release some Scale Alco RS3 locomotives 

It is time for Lionel to offer the ALCO RS3 in O-scale. There are nearly an endless list of the railroads that owned them. If they concentrated to produce RS3’s it would take over 5 years (maybe 10 years) to cover a majority of the railroads that owned them.

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johnstrains posted:

This may have been covered already (or maybe it was in that LC+ thread) but would love to see Lionel hit a homer with some completely new LC+ locos. They’ve had a good start with steam and diesel offerings over the last 4-5 years but time for something to wow us.

I agree John, though the LC+ Berkshire with Bluetooth wowed me last year, and I bought one. I'm hoping for something completely new to the line this year like a GG-1 or Pennsy Turbine (671/681/2020) or something completely new like a NYC Niagara or Mohawk.

Country Joe posted:
johnstrains posted:

This may have been covered already (or maybe it was in that LC+ thread) but would love to see Lionel hit a homer with some completely new LC+ locos. They’ve had a good start with steam and diesel offerings over the last 4-5 years but time for something to wow us.

I agree John, though the LC+ Berkshire with Bluetooth wowed me last year, and I bought one. I'm hoping for something completely new to the line this year like a GG-1 or Pennsy Turbine (671/681/2020) or something completely new like a NYC Niagara or Mohawk.

Absolutely! The Berk was maybe the "best in show" for any of the LC+ offerings to date.

KOOLjock1 posted:

Still hoping for a LionChief Plus Baby K4... and a matching L1 using the same tooling.

Jon  

yankspride4 posted:

A Lionchief Plus GG1 or 773 Hudson would be great!

i mentioned both to Ryan K last year...it seemed to stike a chord with him. Maybe one day...

Would like to add a LC+ Daylight GS4 and a J to the list.

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Ingeniero No1 posted:

I would like to see the production version of the double-gantry, free-standing bridge crane I designed and built a fully functional prototype for Mike five years ago. Every time I ask, I am told it will be soon or next year. I has three axis movement plus on/off power for a magnet when such is used instead of a hook.

Alex

So that's your handy work Alex. Outstanding job! Mike showed me some photos when he was still with L and it appeared to be a very exciting product. It would have made a very nice update to the accessory line. Fingers crossed it still sees the light of day at some point. 

paigetrain posted:

A good selection of starter sets

maybe a Transformers or gi joe or even star wars themed train or why not Gobots

more tier 4 engines this time for lionchief plus

a lionchief bullet train

Star Wars would be great, but even with it's popularity, I wonder the size of the cross section of people who are both Star Wars and train enthusiasts.

I liked Gobots as a kid, primarily because they were for the most part more affordable versions of Transformers.  (the ones I had were all mostly small action figure like (which at the time you could probably buy for under $5 per figure), rather than huge like some the Transformer toys (many of which were more like the $30 range, IIRC)). I had probably 15 or 20 Gobots, never would have been able to have that many Transformers (both for size and cost reasons).

I would assume with the current popularity of the Transformers line of movies, toys, etc., most folks would probably see Gobots as an attempted rip-off of Transformers.  (I do not off the top of my head know the history to know which one was technically "first" to market, and I did not try to look it up)

-Dave

Dave45681 posted:
paigetrain posted:

A good selection of starter sets

maybe a Transformers or gi joe or even star wars themed train or why not Gobots

more tier 4 engines this time for lionchief plus

a lionchief bullet train

Star Wars would be great, but even with it's popularity, I wonder the size of the cross section of people who are both Star Wars and train enthusiasts.

I liked Gobots as a kid, primarily because they were for the most part more affordable versions of Transformers.  (the ones I had were all mostly small action figure like (which at the time you could probably buy for under $5 per figure), rather than huge like some the Transformer toys (many of which were more like the $30 range, IIRC)). I had probably 15 or 20 Gobots, never would have been able to have that many Transformers (both for size and cost reasons).

I would assume with the current popularity of the Transformers line of movies, toys, etc., most folks would probably see Gobots as an attempted rip-off of Transformers.  (I do not off the top of my head know the history to know which one was technically "first" to market, and I did not try to look it up)

-Dave

Honestly I think Star Wars would be a great cross over, and have recommended it before.  Lionel already has a basic agreement with Disney of some kind to make all the Mickey mouse related items they already catalog.  I think a transport train with X-wing or tie fighter models partially assembled would be the way to go.  Another option might be partially assembled AT-ST's (the smaller two legged walkers)

I could see a flat car with two crew cabs loaded as well as cars full of legs or feet pieces.  Could be a lot of fun!

Notch 6 posted:
Ingeniero No1 posted:

I would like to see the production version of the double-gantry, free-standing bridge crane I designed and built a fully functional prototype for Mike five years ago. Every time I ask, I am told it will be soon or next year. I has three axis movement plus on/off power for a magnet when such is used instead of a hook.

Alex

So that's your handy work Alex. Outstanding job! Mike showed me some photos when he was still with L and it appeared to be a very exciting product. It would have made a very nice update to the accessory line. Fingers crossed it still sees the light of day at some point. 

Yes. The prototype was a bit taller than I thought it needed to be, but it was OK. The biggest challenge was controlling the orientation of the hook (due to the long cable), since the little material handlers did not appear to be interested in helping to align it with the load. If Lionel does not intend to offer the crane as a product, I would like to post a video I made of it in operation.

Alex

SIRT posted:

Modelers have moved on past the toy cars to true detailed O along with the electronic advancements of today. No demand for non-scale anymore. You either have it all, look toward more realistic items or are just plain uninformed about all the numerous O variations.

At the last TCA presentation, Ryan Kunkle said that though it does not get nearly the attention the scale line does, it is the starter set traditional line that pays the bills and keeps Lionel in the black.

Of course, you can also repeat to yourself that the world is flat, but that won't change the fact that it's not.

Yes, there is no shortage of train products on the secondary market, much of it traditionally sized. But there have been millions of these kinds of trains made over the last 70 years between Lionel, AMT, Kusan, MARX, K-Line, Williams, Industrial Rail and RMT. The reality is that the overall size of the market has shrunk and there are just larger numbers of trains than there are buyers. Umm, there's also plenty of newer scale trains on the used market too. If some of those are harder to find, it's because their production numbers are so much smaller.

If Lionel totally dropped the scale line of trains tomorrow, it would hurt them, but not put them out of business. If Lionel dropped the traditional starter set line, there would also be no scale trains because there would be no Lionel.

 

 

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