Big_Boy_4005 posted:When is it supposed to go live, tomorrow?
23rd
beachhead2 posted:Big_Boy_4005 posted:When is it supposed to go live, tomorrow?23rd
Wow! How are people getting a hold of these to leak them?
Big_Boy_4005 posted:Wow! How are people getting a hold of these to leak them?
Yeah, especially some punk kid! If he has one, you'd think everyone on OGR would.
I'm sure it wasn't supposed to be given out yet, or is a early copy or sumthing
I need to know if the O gauge Auto Carriers will have ROLLER BEARING trucks and if the road number on the GRAND TRUNK WESTERN auto carrier will be 6 digits. If not I could sand off the numbers and put on MicroScale HO Scale GTW number decals.
Andre
The Facebook video is from Thunder Road Hobbies, looks like they have a stack of the catalogs available. The YouTube video author said he stopped in a hobby shop (don't remember the name) and picked up the catalog.
i wish he would slow down but Lionelville beauro (or however you spell it ) of investigation or LBI is coming to arrest him driving a giant lionchief police train (that would be cool) my imagination is too wild
buuuut i did pause the video and i swear i saw some LC+ TIER 4s baby wahoo
oh i wanna know what lionchief 2.0 is all about and that blue train
hurry up 23
sadly i'm in class from 11 to 5 probably with a good pile of homework after - thats the college life and having no money too
i hope to get a hard copy to go through and show my friends at school
Has anyone heard anything about UP 4141 rerelease on when you can start preordering them?
I see an LIRR Alco C420 in MTA blue and yellow--sign me up
20centuryhudson posted:I see an LIRR Alco C420 in MTA blue and yellow--sign me up
Me too!!! And I saw the coaches and matching FA’s, wonder if Nassau hobby has the red & blue wave schemes coming
I saw enough to know folks saying LC and LC+ are the future (like I have been preaching) are 100% right on! And I too am interested in LC 2.0. I hate that folks have leaked it already.. A week in advance. That YouTube video was rough but there is a little bit of info there. 10 pages of legacy and 50 pages of LC-LC+!
Jim
carsntrains posted:I saw enough to know folks saying LC and LC+ are the future (like I have been preaching) are 100% right on! And I too am interested in LC 2.0. I hate that folks have leaked it already.. A week in advance. That YouTube video was rough but there is a little bit of info there. 10 pages of legacy and 50 pages of LC-LC+!
Jim
Shame, looks like Legacy will be put out of production in a few years as a result.
MichaelB posted:carsntrains posted:I saw enough to know folks saying LC and LC+ are the future (like I have been preaching) are 100% right on! And I too am interested in LC 2.0. I hate that folks have leaked it already.. A week in advance. That YouTube video was rough but there is a little bit of info there. 10 pages of legacy and 50 pages of LC-LC+!
Jim
Shame, looks like Legacy will be put out of production in a few years as a result.
I don't think so. It will just be able to be controlled with Bluetooth and universal LC controllers. And hopefully run on DC. So we can have full control of 3 engines for 39.99. Or maybe 5 in a few years. And not have to buy any type of control system. Sounds amazing doesn't it??
Jim
May I add the trouble with communicating with the engine through the rails no longer exists with Bluetooth technology. And that's a big plus! The possibilities are endless!! Everything is Bluetooth now. Lights, receptacles, speakers, TVs, refrigerators, stoves, work lights, headphones. Why should model trains be left behind?
carsntrains posted:I saw enough to know folks saying LC and LC+ are the future (like I have been preaching) are 100% right on! And I too am interested in LC 2.0. I hate that folks have leaked it already.. A week in advance. That YouTube video was rough but there is a little bit of info there. 10 pages of legacy and 50 pages of LC-LC+!
Jim
Alright now wait a minute, what is LC 2.0? Is it LC/+ items that can run on the legacy remote?
Actually I just compared the 2019 catalog to the 2018 one and it turns out that LionCheif is not taking over just yet. If you compare the pictures of the locomotives with a transparent view of the internals, you will notice that they are the pictures for Legacy locomotives.
So the guy in the video was wrong about the sections he called "The Lioncheif Plus stuff." Those sections are actually the Legacy items.
Trainlover9943 posted:carsntrains posted:I saw enough to know folks saying LC and LC+ are the future (like I have been preaching) are 100% right on! And I too am interested in LC 2.0. I hate that folks have leaked it already.. A week in advance. That YouTube video was rough but there is a little bit of info there. 10 pages of legacy and 50 pages of LC-LC+!
Jim
Alright now wait a minute, what is LC 2.0? Is it LC/+ items that can run on the legacy remote?
Don't know yet. I think its Legacy engines the now run on LC remotes. : )
Jim
MichaelB posted:Actually I just compared the 2019 catalog to the 2018 one and it turns out that LionCheif is not taking over just yet. If you compare the pictures of the locomotives with a transparent view of the internals, you will notice that they are the pictures for Legacy locomotives.
So the guy in the video was wrong about the sections he called "The Lioncheif Plus stuff." Those sections are actually the Legacy items.
Really I think we wait until the 2019 book can be looked at. Lots of stuff for everybody in there. And rolling stock knows no control system! The kids even win with more Thomas the Train stuff! CHOOO CHOOO
Jim
I didn't see much in the way of new tooling. Looks like they might have infused the "baby" Berk with LC+ 2.0. (Personally I would rather have the larger "726" repro that shipped in 2018.) No traditional-sized K4 or 2037 clone. The K4 would be easy to do, because under the skin it's pretty similar to the Alaska RR Pacific that was part of the first-generation LC+ locos. I guess my wallet is safe for another 6 mos!
Am I reading this correctly that Legacy is going away sooner than later?
Legacy is not going away. The controller and base sets cost over $300. They are going to stick around.
Andrew
carsntrains posted:WHAT!!! A lionchief plus big boy!!! HOLY SMOKES!!!!
I didn’t see anything about LionChief Big Boy. He mentioned a Lionmaster Big Boy.
Jim R. posted:carsntrains posted:WHAT!!! A lionchief plus big boy!!! HOLY SMOKES!!!!
I didn’t see anything about LionChief Big Boy. He mentioned a Lionmaster Big Boy.
What you're reading is speculation. Only Executives at Lionel know the end game plan.
Any date of the catalog presentation?
tom21pa posted:I'm sure it wasn't supposed to be given out yet, or is a early copy or sumthing
Read the description for his YouTube page. There was a box of catalogs at a Hobbytown, so he grabbed one.
Davety posted:Jim R. posted:carsntrains posted:WHAT!!! A lionchief plus big boy!!! HOLY SMOKES!!!!
I didn’t see anything about LionChief Big Boy. He mentioned a Lionmaster Big Boy.
What you're reading is speculation. Only Executives at Lionel know the end game plan.
Huh? We’re talking about what the kid mentioned as he flipped through the 2019 catalog in the YouTube video. There was no speculating going on.
It looked like lion chief big boy to me and lionchief gg1. Hard to tell he went so fast
Jim R. posted:tom21pa posted:I'm sure it wasn't supposed to be given out yet, or is a early copy or sumthing
Read the description for his YouTube page. There was a box of catalogs at a Hobbytown, so he grabbed one.
Davety posted:Jim R. posted:carsntrains posted:WHAT!!! A lionchief plus big boy!!! HOLY SMOKES!!!!
I didn’t see anything about LionChief Big Boy. He mentioned a Lionmaster Big Boy.
What you're reading is speculation. Only Executives at Lionel know the end game plan.
Huh? We’re talking about what the kid mentioned as he flipped through the 2019 catalog in the YouTube video. There was no speculating going on.
The speculation is regarding what lion chief plus 2.0 is going to be.
tom21pa posted:It looked like lion chief big boy to me and lionchief gg1. Hard to tell he went so fast
He said Lionmaster, not LionChief.
i swear I seen lionchief icon on the page
Swafford posted:Any date of the catalog presentation?
Jan 23
tom21pa posted:It looked like lion chief big boy to me and lionchief gg1. Hard to tell he went so fast
I stopped the video over the page. I cant be certain but it sure looked like LIONCHIEF written on the upper portion of the page! And the engines on the next few pages had LC remotes!
Jim
I thought I saw a KCS 2-10-4 w/ the WW2 Buy war bonds tender and KCS regular 2-10-4 go by in a flash. Have to see how close it is when the catalog goes on line.
Any ES44AC's or SD70ACe's???
carsntrains posted:MichaelB posted:carsntrains posted:I saw enough to know folks saying LC and LC+ are the future (like I have been preaching) are 100% right on! And I too am interested in LC 2.0. I hate that folks have leaked it already.. A week in advance. That YouTube video was rough but there is a little bit of info there. 10 pages of legacy and 50 pages of LC-LC+!
Jim
Shame, looks like Legacy will be put out of production in a few years as a result.
I don't think so. It will just be able to be controlled with Bluetooth and universal LC controllers. And hopefully run on DC. So we can have full control of 3 engines for 39.99. Or maybe 5 in a few years. And not have to buy any type of control system. Sounds amazing doesn't it??
Jim
May I add the trouble with communicating with the engine through the rails no longer exists with Bluetooth technology. And that's a big plus! The possibilities are endless!! Everything is Bluetooth now. Lights, receptacles, speakers, TVs, refrigerators, stoves, work lights, headphones. Why should model trains be left behind?
That sounds great, but there have been a few posts recently saying that Bluetooth isn't all it's cracked up to be. It doesn't have the range, and drops the engine frequently. I bought a bunch of them, but I haven't opened any yet. I would love nothing more than to be rid of flakey track signals, but that remains to be seen. If it works on my layout, it'll work anywhere. Fingers crossed!
P.S. I see the cleaning crew came through here earlier today. One of my posts is missing. That's OK, I kept the receipt in the form of an email "like notice". 
BTW, you missed a spot.
Being new to the hobby, and realizing how anticipated the catalogues are, I’ve been watching more closely.
I think it is cute to watch a “kid” leaf through the 2019 Lionel catalogue. It provides insight into how he sees the new offerings. Helps me better understand why the catalogue has so much for kids. Lord knows they must raise up a new crop of customers.
How come the catalog is not on Lionel’s web site?
I think I saw some new LEGACY PRR J1s in their. Also saw some sort of PRR electric and a Milwaukee Bi Polar. Sadly the kid who made the video skipped all of the scale stuff and went to the "traditional" stuff. The goldbonnets also look quite interesting. I guess the 23rd will reveal a clear version to us all!
ehkempf posted:How come the catalog is not on Lionel’s web site?
It will be Wednesday morning January 23rd at 9:00 am EST.
Like the military themes...
1. Hobby Exclusive military set, 2. "Wings of Angels" boxcars, 3. Lionmaster (LC+?) flat with tanks set...
Like many above, the next few days should be fun.
I was a Just Trains in DE today, which was by chance because of a business meeting. I didn't pick up any of the catalogs because I thought to myself they would be just the old ones I have seen on here before. Now, I am thinking that maybe I saw these sitting there?!? Ahhh..the thought of having one is killing me now. I'll never know for sure, but I think they should drop the catalog early tomorrow online if dealers are going to have it in stores this weekend.
Let's make it happen Lionel.
...I'm a Pennsy guy through and through, but I might have spotted the Lionchief 0-8-0 in an New York Central flyer set. Prototypically that switcher and and tender model looks NYC, and not PRR at all, to me. I have passed on the holiday deals for the Pennsy flyer set, hoping to see the NYC version soon. So, I'll have my eye on that. Besides, the Central steamed through the Pine Creek Pennsylvania Grand Canyon to Jersey Shore, which is near my cabin in upstate PA.
Interested to see what else is new in LC+ but with a new house, hopefully the limited train budget will be dedicated to a....Layout!!! Which means I also noticed how many accessories are catalogued.
Big_Boy_4005 posted:carsntrains posted:MichaelB posted:carsntrains posted:I saw enough to know folks saying LC and LC+ are the future (like I have been preaching) are 100% right on! And I too am interested in LC 2.0. I hate that folks have leaked it already.. A week in advance. That YouTube video was rough but there is a little bit of info there. 10 pages of legacy and 50 pages of LC-LC+!
Jim
Shame, looks like Legacy will be put out of production in a few years as a result.
I don't think so. It will just be able to be controlled with Bluetooth and universal LC controllers. And hopefully run on DC. So we can have full control of 3 engines for 39.99. Or maybe 5 in a few years. And not have to buy any type of control system. Sounds amazing doesn't it??
Jim
May I add the trouble with communicating with the engine through the rails no longer exists with Bluetooth technology. And that's a big plus! The possibilities are endless!! Everything is Bluetooth now. Lights, receptacles, speakers, TVs, refrigerators, stoves, work lights, headphones. Why should model trains be left behind?
That sounds great, but there have been a few posts recently saying that Bluetooth isn't all it's cracked up to be. It doesn't have the range, and drops the engine frequently. I bought a bunch of them, but I haven't opened any yet. I would love nothing more than to be rid of flakey track signals, but that remains to be seen. If it works on my layout, it'll work anywhere. Fingers crossed!
P.S. I see the cleaning crew came through here earlier today. One of my posts is missing. That's OK, I kept the receipt in the form of an email "like notice".
I bought two of the new Legacy engines with Bluetooth recently and it was easy to set up without a command set and the engines ran fine. However, I have experienced where the Bluetooth drops and the engines loose signal. You have to reconnect before you can run the engine again. On my two locomotives the RPM levels do not change from idle when using only Bluetooth or the Universal remote. As the train goes around you hear sounds but not appropriate for the speed it is going. There is no brake sounds, there is no halt function and if the engine is turned on for smoke and you want to turn it off with the app, it goes back to smoke when you start up the engine again. You can't quill the horn either. Just to name a few of the things I have dealt with so far.
I personally decided to get the Legacy Cab 1l Command Set and it is amazing how much better it is to run the Legacy engines. They start smoother, run smoother and you get all the sounds you could ask for. I know people who have always used Legacy are probably thinking well of course it's better but I got into Legacy engines thinking I could skip the command set as advertised, and I have discovered that is definitely not the way to go. You can get a Cab 1l set for about $200 now. I picked it because it was less complicated to use than the more expensive command set.
I think Lionel is trying sell people on the idea you can do just fine without the command set and maybe some will be happy that way, but if you are going to spend $500 - $2,000 on each engine you might as well get the most out the product.
