Thanks NS. I've never gotten my Legacy base to work correctly, and have all but given up on it. I just run straight TMCC. The Legacy features never really interested me anyway. I hope the engines have a smoke off switch. I never use smoke, and I don't want to keep having to turn it off. I have way too many engines to mess with that. I can only imagine where all that smoke goes.
I can see I will be in trouble with this catalog. Do you guys remember the bumper sticker that said. " My wife said if I buy another train she will leave me, I will miss her" she also said she would take my collection throw it in a Winnebago and sell the all over the country, I believe her. 
John Pignatelli JR. posted:I can see I will be in trouble with this catalog. Do you guys remember the bumper sticker that said. " My wife said if I buy another train she will leave me, I will miss her" she also said she would take my collection throw it in a Winnebago and sell the all over the country, I believe her.
hmm exactly why i'm unsure about getting married
gotta find a girl who understands how i roll
hopefully none of my engines cost over 1000 as most of my stuff will be traditional o and my first layout might be on the floor or one of these
There are two listings on eBay selling multiple copies. One states “ready to ship today”.
MWasko posted:There are two listings on eBay selling multiple copies. One states “ready to ship today”.
Thanks for the heads up, but I can wait five days. Beside, by the time you get it there will only be a day or two before Lionel has it up. I've had a good enough tease.
Big_Boy_4005 posted:MWasko posted:There are two listings on eBay selling multiple copies. One states “ready to ship today”.
Thanks for the heads up, but I can wait five days. Beside, by the time you get it there will only be a day or two before Lionel has it up. I've had a good enough tease.
I agree.
My point was that this looks more than a few leaking early.
Also, I see Americas Best Trains Facebook page has posted that they are available today (yesterday).
MichaelB posted:carsntrains posted:I saw enough to know folks saying LC and LC+ are the future (like I have been preaching) are 100% right on! And I too am interested in LC 2.0. I hate that folks have leaked it already.. A week in advance. That YouTube video was rough but there is a little bit of info there. 10 pages of legacy and 50 pages of LC-LC+!
Jim
Shame, looks like Legacy will be put out of production in a few years as a result.
No evidence of that whatsoever.
MWasko posted:Big_Boy_4005 posted:MWasko posted:There are two listings on eBay selling multiple copies. One states “ready to ship today”.
Thanks for the heads up, but I can wait five days. Beside, by the time you get it there will only be a day or two before Lionel has it up. I've had a good enough tease.
I agree.
My point was that this looks more than a few leaking early.
Also, I see Americas Best Trains Facebook page has posted that they are available today (yesterday).
Somehow I think somebody didn't check the calendar, and put them out a week early.
I've been asking for Lionel to remake the unstreamlined J3a for at least the last 10 years. The last ones they did, 5433 and 5444 in 2002, were probably the best detailed Hudsons Lionel ever produced. Only problem was the tender gap was unsightly!
There will be 4 versions of the J3a. I'm guessing one will definitely be the first 5405 "as built" with all the striping and white walls and older lettering and numbering.
The other three may vary in a few possible ways. Lettering and numbering may be old style or new. One may have the standard tender or a PT tender. They could have or not have classification lights as J3a did not have them when built (no longer requires on the main lines in 1938 but still required on secondary lines) but many had them added when they were reassigned from the premier to secondary service. Half the J3a fleet had Scullin disc drive wheels and half had Boxpok. Some of the J3a's had flat Selkirk front ends, which I've seen beneath the shrouding on the Dreyfuss and ESE Hudsons and later used in rebuilding. And lastly, the possibility of elephant ears.
I'm hoping that Lionel doesn't do what it did on the recent Niagara.
1. Don't use that silvery gray color on the smokebox. Black or a dark graphite smokebox are much more NYC looking.
2. Don't do white walls and striping along with blackened drive rods. It's either a show piece or it's not.
In addition....
3. Don't let the Chinese make these decisions. Past attention to the details on the high ticket stuff.
4. Make sure there is some form of quality control, especially with the current strained economic relationship.
Having way too much time on my hands, but thanks for listening.
Didn't see any GG-1s, the electric engines all appear to be bi-polars.
I'm thinking the Big Boys are Lionmaster size with some form of LionChief (2.0 ?) control.
The blue passenger starter set appears to be a Blue Comet.
Like that ore train with the Alco C420, looks like at least 10 ore cars in it.
Hard to tell, but it looks like a Bi-polar set with passenger cars, maybe something along the lines of the S2 Prewar Inspired set that was in the 2017 Signature catalog.
ed h posted:Like that ore train with the Alco C420, looks like at least 10 ore cars in it.
To me it looked more like 12 ore cars. Just sayin'.
Stu
NYC Fan posted:
I'm hoping that Lionel doesn't do what it did on the recent Niagara.
1. Don't use that silvery gray color on the smokebox. Black or a dark graphite smokebox are much more NYC looking.
2. Don't do white walls and striping along with blackened drive rods. It's either a show piece or it's not.
In addition....
3. Don't let the Chinese make these decisions. Past attention to the details on the high ticket stuff.
4. Make sure there is some form of quality control, especially with the current strained economic relationship.
Having way too much time on my hands, but thanks for listening.
What he said! Apply the same to the PRR 2-10-4s also.
This kid in the video is hilarious, and I believe he might just be messing with the scale/legacy crowd here a bit.
Let's fly through the first 20-30 pages of this catalogue so we can all spend some real quality time exploring the Island of Sodor, Gotham City, and Hogsmeade. Classic!
LOL
Prom-On-Tory. Pair Mar-KETT. Berk-sure or Berk-sheer are acceptable. Berk-SHIRE like there are Hobbits living in the tender is not...
Jon 
KOOLjock1 posted:Berk-sure or Berk-sheer are acceptable. Berk-SHIRE like there are Hobbits living in the tender is not...
Jon
Dilly, Dilly!
Stu
Jim R. posted:carsntrains posted:WHAT!!! A lionchief plus big boy!!! HOLY SMOKES!!!!
I didn’t see anything about LionChief Big Boy. He mentioned a Lionmaster Big Boy.
It seemed like there was both. LC Big Boy before the F-units then Lionmaster Big Boy after F-Units. I thought I saw ES44 LC too.
Pricing will be interesting but for folks who want to run one at a time I see the motivation on Lionel's part for LC versions. I'm guessing the trial run with the SD60Ms went well.
hirailsteve posted:Jim R. posted:carsntrains posted:WHAT!!! A lionchief plus big boy!!! HOLY SMOKES!!!!
I didn’t see anything about LionChief Big Boy. He mentioned a Lionmaster Big Boy.
It seemed like there was both. LC Big Boy before the F-units then Lionmaster Big Boy after F-Units. I thought I saw ES44 LC too.
Pricing will be interesting but for folks who want to run one at a time I see the motivation on Lionel's part for LC versions. I'm guessing the trial run with the SD60Ms went well.
lionmaster big boy is Lioncheif plus 2.0. Lionchief plus 2.0 is a new version of lionchief that also works with TMCC. So you can run on lioncheif with remote or app, in conventional, or in TMCC mode. Pretty interesting idea. Catalog is huge. The big boy was $1,199 I think. I know it was over $1000. Looks like it lost whistle steam.
Anyone seen anything in the in the conventional/PW-inspired category? Or close to it? I know...my usual pitch.
I understand that initial reports are iffy but sounds like there might be a LC+ set offered. If so, great news as many of us LC+ fans have been asking for one.
NYC Fan posted:I've been asking for Lionel to remake the unstreamlined J3a for at least the last 10 years. The last ones they did, 5433 and 5444 in 2002, were probably the best detailed Hudsons Lionel ever produced.
We did it Skip!!!!!
Maybe you could email your thoughts to Ryan or Dave. Lionel take your time on these and get them right. PLEASE REMOVE THE CASTING LINES AS WELL.
These should be an absolute home run! My problem will be selecting which one.
John Pignatelli JR. posted:I can see I will be in trouble with this catalog. Do you guys remember the bumper sticker that said. " My wife said if I buy another train she will leave me, I will miss her" she also said she would take my collection throw it in a Winnebago and sell the all over the country, I believe her.
Surely you must be joking. Why would anyone do such a dastardly deed? In this house the only person who can make all decision on my trains is myself. End of story.
As for the Lionel catalog the topic of this thread; unfortunately Lionel in recent years has walked away from the "nut and bolts" part of the market, preferring to offer expensive full featured electronic trains. I just wonder if that's where the market really is? While I still buy Lionel its very selective as my layout runs simple basic operation..
I’ve got to imagine the bigger part of the market is in starter sets with higher volumes and higher margines. The big scale trains are premium items.
The return of the 2-truck shays is a great relief for me. Hopefully the legacy HHP-8s will come out in august
NOT LionelLLC posted:ed h posted:Like that ore train with the Alco C420, looks like at least 10 ore cars in it.
To me it looked more like 12 ore cars. Just sayin'.
Stu
Stuart - May be on to something there, 2 six packs makes more sense than 10 ore cars.
BTW, there is a really neat looking Lehigh Valley boxcar in the LV starter set. Looks kind of familiar...
NS1975 posted:Big_Boy_4005 posted:carsntrains posted:MichaelB posted:carsntrains posted:I saw enough to know folks saying LC and LC+ are the future (like I have been preaching) are 100% right on! And I too am interested in LC 2.0. I hate that folks have leaked it already.. A week in advance. That YouTube video was rough but there is a little bit of info there. 10 pages of legacy and 50 pages of LC-LC+!
Jim
Shame, looks like Legacy will be put out of production in a few years as a result.
I don't think so. It will just be able to be controlled with Bluetooth and universal LC controllers. And hopefully run on DC. So we can have full control of 3 engines for 39.99. Or maybe 5 in a few years. And not have to buy any type of control system. Sounds amazing doesn't it??
Jim
May I add the trouble with communicating with the engine through the rails no longer exists with Bluetooth technology. And that's a big plus! The possibilities are endless!! Everything is Bluetooth now. Lights, receptacles, speakers, TVs, refrigerators, stoves, work lights, headphones. Why should model trains be left behind?
That sounds great, but there have been a few posts recently saying that Bluetooth isn't all it's cracked up to be. It doesn't have the range, and drops the engine frequently. I bought a bunch of them, but I haven't opened any yet. I would love nothing more than to be rid of flakey track signals, but that remains to be seen. If it works on my layout, it'll work anywhere. Fingers crossed!
P.S. I see the cleaning crew came through here earlier today. One of my posts is missing. That's OK, I kept the receipt in the form of an email "like notice".
I bought two of the new Legacy engines with Bluetooth recently and it was easy to set up without a command set and the engines ran fine. However, I have experienced where the Bluetooth drops and the engines loose signal. You have to reconnect before you can run the engine again. On my two locomotives the RPM levels do not change from idle when using only Bluetooth or the Universal remote. As the train goes around you hear sounds but not appropriate for the speed it is going. There is no brake sounds, there is no halt function and if the engine is turned on for smoke and you want to turn it off with the app, it goes back to smoke when you start up the engine again. You can't quill the horn either. Just to name a few of the things I have dealt with so far.
I personally decided to get the Legacy Cab 1l Command Set and it is amazing how much better it is to run the Legacy engines. They start smoother, run smoother and you get all the sounds you could ask for. I know people who have always used Legacy are probably thinking well of course it's better but I got into Legacy engines thinking I could skip the command set as advertised, and I have discovered that is definitely not the way to go. You can get a Cab 1l set for about $200 now. I picked it because it was less complicated to use than the more expensive command set.
I think Lionel is trying sell people on the idea you can do just fine without the command set and maybe some will be happy that way, but if you are going to spend $500 - $2,000 on each engine you might as well get the most out the product.
I have played with the "Bluetooth" app on my engines. Had to use my sons phone because I havent done the walk around to make google play work on my fire devices yet. Worked fine. But what has worked flawlessly is the LC universal remote. Which also runs any Legacy engine with Bluetooth. So really now to use the basic functions of Legacy without anything else is a 40.00 remote that can run 3 engines. And like Elliot says .. how often do you use the other functions? If you want more control use the Bluetooth app. Its free. Now if they would only give the Legacy the ability to run on DC.
Jim
And remember.. The expansion of the Bluetooth/LC technology is in its infancy. How many years have they been fooling around with the current control system?? 30 years?
OH wow I googles it. The current system of train control through the track came out in .... 1940!!!! 79 years ago! Can you imagine what Bluetooth type tech will be doing at the same age? : )
I can wait for the real deal to come out. I haven't scrolled through 6 pages of...
Are we complaining yet?
Is anybody in here actually playing with their trains?
I sure hope bluetooth isn't their long-term goal. I think how they are currently using it is great. It helps transition from entry level to high end. Bluetooth has range and connection issues, even look at Apple Airpds (wireless headphones) and they added their own chip and logic to make a better connection. I think using the rails and sending the signal makes tons of sense. I could see the cab2 going away in favor of just the command base. Who knows. its a great catalog though.
Matt Makens posted:Is anybody in here actually playing with their trains?
Are we supposed to play with them? I thought we were supposed to count every their rivets and scrutinize every single inaccuracy...
KOOLjock1 posted:Prom-On-Tory. Pair Mar-KETT. Berk-sure or Berk-sheer are acceptable. Berk-SHIRE like there are Hobbits living in the tender is not...
Jon
The French pronunciation of Pere Marquette is as you described it. (Pere is French for Father, as in reverend, in this case.)
But the railroad name has always been pronounced Peer Marquette. Why? Same reason as always. An Americanization of a name pronounced by its spelling.
And then there’s Reading ...
Bluetooth range is actually not that bad but if there is a concern in the future they should just make little radio towers to repeat the Bluetooth signal across your layout.... It would be a wonderful marriage of form and function
Matt Makens posted:Is anybody in here actually playing with their trains?
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Maxrailroad posted:Matt Makens posted:Is anybody in here actually playing with their trains?
Are we supposed to play with them? I thought we were supposed to count every their rivets and scrutinize every single inaccuracy...
Hey Alexa! Turn on the trains!
Max I took that Alexa control and now I turn on the trains, the town, and the depot!! LOL And my WEMO smart plugs have worked great! Only thing I have to turn on now is my LC universal controller!!!
Jim
ZenGardenRails posted:Bluetooth range is actually not that bad but if there is a concern in the future they should just make little radio towers to repeat the Bluetooth signal across your layout.... It would be a wonderful marriage of form and function
Cool idea! Not sure why folks are having range problem though. They say the LC remotes will work up to 60 feet. Only person I know that may have an issue is.. Elliot~BIG BOY 4005.
Jim
carsntrains posted:I have played with the "Bluetooth" app on my engines. Had to use my sons phone because I havent done the walk around to make google play work on my fire devices yet. Worked fine. But what has worked flawlessly is the LC universal remote. Which also runs any Legacy engine with Bluetooth. So really now to use the basic functions of Legacy without anything else is a 40.00 remote that can run 3 engines.
Technically, you don't have access to any "Legacy" functions via the app or Lionchief remote. Its probably closer to conventional control than Legacy.
And like Elliot says .. how often do you use the other functions? If you want more control use the Bluetooth app. Its free.
All the time.
1.As mentioned before, niether Lionchief or bluetooth will give you you access to the realistic 8 RPM levels of a diesel or the 15 labor/drift intensity of the chuff of a steamer for that matter.
IMO, theres nothing worse than a diesel idling around the layout at speed
2.Obviously no quilling whistle.
3. You only get a fraction of the speed steps with Lionchief or the app. Prototypical switching or slow departure is nearly impossible.
4. Theres no access to the momentum feature. This allows the train to operate more realistically and throttling against the momentum will increase the diesel RPMs as well as the steam chuff intensity.
When labor increases the locos steam and diesel will automatically increase smoke output as well.
Lastly, reducing the throttle against the momentum will automatically induce brake squealing sounds, which are also totally unavailable via Lionchief or the app.
I have the momentum and labor set on my remote. Then the train reacts accordingly simply by turning the throttle, laboring or braking.
Those are a few of the "meat and potatoes" Legacy features that make the train "more like the real thing". I may have missed a few there are other things like refueling sounds be it diesel coal or water, Steam blowdown etc.
Then the rest of the features, 2 volumes, 3 smoke levels, lighting menu, etc. etc.
To each there own. If you like Lionchief thats great. Don't make aasumptions when you haven't experienced the full capabilities of the legacy handheld.
And remember.. The expansion of the Bluetooth/LC technology is in its infancy. How many years have they been fooling around with the current control system?? 30 years?
BTW, the worst part about Bluetooth is staring at your device instead of the train your running. The legacy handheld will always be superior to this no matter how good bluetooth gets. Its very easy to operate the Legacy remote by feel.
RickO posted:carsntrains posted:I have played with the "Bluetooth" app on my engines. Had to use my sons phone because I havent done the walk around to make google play work on my fire devices yet. Worked fine. But what has worked flawlessly is the LC universal remote. Which also runs any Legacy engine with Bluetooth. So really now to use the basic functions of Legacy without anything else is a 40.00 remote that can run 3 engines.
Technically, you don't have access to any "Legacy" functions via the app or Lionchief remote. Its probably closer to conventional control than Legacy.
And like Elliot says .. how often do you use the other functions? If you want more control use the Bluetooth app. Its free.
All the time.
1.As mentioned before, niether Lionchief or bluetooth will give you you access to the realistic 8 RPM levels of a diesel or the 15 labor/drift intensity of the chuff of a steamer for that matter.
IMO, theres nothing worse than a diesel idling around the layout at speed
2.Obviously no quilling whistle.
3. You only get a fraction of the speed steps with Lionchief or the app. Prototypical switching or slow departure is nearly impossible.
4. Theres no access to the momentum feature. This allows the train to operate more realistically and throttling against the momentum will increase the diesel RPMs as well as the steam chuff intensity.
When labor increases the locos steam and diesel will automatically increase smoke output as well.
Lastly, reducing the throttle against the momentum will automatically induce brake squealing sounds, which are also totally unavailable via Lionchief or the app.
I have the momentum and labor set on my remote. Then the train reacts accordingly simply by turning the throttle, laboring or braking.
Those are a few of the "meat and potatoes" Legacy features that make the train "more like the real thing". I may have missed a few there are other things like refueling sounds be it diesel coal or water, Steam blowdown etc.
Then the rest of the features, 2 volumes, 3 smoke levels, lighting menu, etc. etc.
To each there own. If you like Lionchief thats great. Don't make aasumptions when you haven't experienced the full capabilities of the legacy handheld.
And remember.. The expansion of the Bluetooth/LC technology is in its infancy. How many years have they been fooling around with the current control system?? 30 years?
BTW, the worst part about Bluetooth is staring at your device instead of the train your running. The legacy handheld will always be superior to this no matter how good bluetooth gets. Its very easy to operate the Legacy remote by feel.
Yep the LC is only 2 years old or so.. The tech you are touting in 79 years old. Give it a minute. I can generate a slow start and do fine switching with a LC remote. Never mind the LC app. Crew talk by app and remote, expanded speed control by app, front and real couplers by app and remote, bell by app or remote. The sounds of a LC diesel change with speed. So does the steam. And we are talking about a 40 dollar remote .. Have you used the new LC universal remote? Or have you ran a legacy with one?
Jim
Basic Legacy function. Throttle, bell, whistle, couplers, crew talk. : )
carsntrains posted:Yep the LC is only 2 years old or so.. The tech you are touting in 79 years old. Give it a minute.
TMCC is 25 years old and Legacy is 12
Jim
Basic Legacy function. Throttle, bell, whistle, crew talk. : )
You can do that with a transformer.
Enjoy your trains Jim, theres room in this hobby for all of us. We all just need to keep throwing money at it so it doesn't become extinct.
Excuse me while going back to dancing about the new Hudson.
carsntrains posted:ZenGardenRails posted:Bluetooth range is actually not that bad but if there is a concern in the future they should just make little radio towers to repeat the Bluetooth signal across your layout.... It would be a wonderful marriage of form and function
Cool idea! Not sure why folks are having range problem though. They say the LC remotes will work up to 60 feet. Only person I know that may have an issue is.. Elliot~BIG BOY 4005.
Jim
I had trouble with the blue tooth function through the remote and app last week in around the 30-40 feet range. had to stay within about 20 feet of the loco.
RickO posted:carsntrains posted:I have played with the "Bluetooth" app on my engines. Had to use my sons phone because I havent done the walk around to make google play work on my fire devices yet. Worked fine. But what has worked flawlessly is the LC universal remote. Which also runs any Legacy engine with Bluetooth. So really now to use the basic functions of Legacy without anything else is a 40.00 remote that can run 3 engines.
Technically, you don't have access to any "Legacy" functions via the app or Lionchief remote. Its probably closer to conventional control than Legacy.
And like Elliot says .. how often do you use the other functions? If you want more control use the Bluetooth app. Its free.
All the time.
1.As mentioned before, niether Lionchief or bluetooth will give you you access to the realistic 8 RPM levels of a diesel or the 15 labor/drift intensity of the chuff of a steamer for that matter.
IMO, theres nothing worse than a diesel idling around the layout at speed
2.Obviously no quilling whistle.
3. You only get a fraction of the speed steps with Lionchief or the app. Prototypical switching or slow departure is nearly impossible.
4. Theres no access to the momentum feature. This allows the train to operate more realistically and throttling against the momentum will increase the diesel RPMs as well as the steam chuff intensity.
When labor increases the locos steam and diesel will automatically increase smoke output as well.
Lastly, reducing the throttle against the momentum will automatically induce brake squealing sounds, which are also totally unavailable via Lionchief or the app.
I have the momentum and labor set on my remote. Then the train reacts accordingly simply by turning the throttle, laboring or braking.
Those are a few of the "meat and potatoes" Legacy features that make the train "more like the real thing". I may have missed a few there are other things like refueling sounds be it diesel coal or water, Steam blowdown etc.
Then the rest of the features, 2 volumes, 3 smoke levels, lighting menu, etc. etc.
To each there own. If you like Lionchief thats great. Don't make aasumptions when you haven't experienced the full capabilities of the legacy handheld.
And remember.. The expansion of the Bluetooth/LC technology is in its infancy. How many years have they been fooling around with the current control system?? 30 years?
BTW, the worst part about Bluetooth is staring at your device instead of the train your running. The legacy handheld will always be superior to this no matter how good bluetooth gets. Its very easy to operate the Legacy remote by feel.
As someone who started out with app and then the universal remote and now a command set, I totally agree with you.
carsntrains posted:RickO posted:carsntrains posted:I have played with the "Bluetooth" app on my engines. Had to use my sons phone because I havent done the walk around to make google play work on my fire devices yet. Worked fine. But what has worked flawlessly is the LC universal remote. Which also runs any Legacy engine with Bluetooth. So really now to use the basic functions of Legacy without anything else is a 40.00 remote that can run 3 engines.
Technically, you don't have access to any "Legacy" functions via the app or Lionchief remote. Its probably closer to conventional control than Legacy.
And like Elliot says .. how often do you use the other functions? If you want more control use the Bluetooth app. Its free.
All the time.
1.As mentioned before, niether Lionchief or bluetooth will give you you access to the realistic 8 RPM levels of a diesel or the 15 labor/drift intensity of the chuff of a steamer for that matter.
IMO, theres nothing worse than a diesel idling around the layout at speed
2.Obviously no quilling whistle.
3. You only get a fraction of the speed steps with Lionchief or the app. Prototypical switching or slow departure is nearly impossible.
4. Theres no access to the momentum feature. This allows the train to operate more realistically and throttling against the momentum will increase the diesel RPMs as well as the steam chuff intensity.
When labor increases the locos steam and diesel will automatically increase smoke output as well.
Lastly, reducing the throttle against the momentum will automatically induce brake squealing sounds, which are also totally unavailable via Lionchief or the app.
I have the momentum and labor set on my remote. Then the train reacts accordingly simply by turning the throttle, laboring or braking.
Those are a few of the "meat and potatoes" Legacy features that make the train "more like the real thing". I may have missed a few there are other things like refueling sounds be it diesel coal or water, Steam blowdown etc.
Then the rest of the features, 2 volumes, 3 smoke levels, lighting menu, etc. etc.
To each there own. If you like Lionchief thats great. Don't make aasumptions when you haven't experienced the full capabilities of the legacy handheld.
And remember.. The expansion of the Bluetooth/LC technology is in its infancy. How many years have they been fooling around with the current control system?? 30 years?
BTW, the worst part about Bluetooth is staring at your device instead of the train your running. The legacy handheld will always be superior to this no matter how good bluetooth gets. Its very easy to operate the Legacy remote by feel.
Yep the LC is only 2 years old or so.. The tech you are touting in 79 years old. Give it a minute. I can generate a slow start and do fine switching with a LC remote. Never mind the LC app. Crew talk by app and remote, expanded speed control by app, front and real couplers by app and remote, bell by app or remote. The sounds of a LC diesel change with speed. So does the steam. And we are talking about a 40 dollar remote .. Have you used the new LC universal remote? Or have you ran a legacy with one?
Jim
Basic Legacy function. Throttle, bell, whistle, couplers, crew talk. : )
I have used the universal remote with my Bluetooth capable Legacy SD70Ace and the Cab1l remote. Using the Cab1l is night and day difference. It is a huge improvement!
I will say that the universal remote is awesome for my two LC+ scale SD60m that I have because I can go back and fourth with same remote between the two engines, and it hardly ever fails with connection.
jeremy ferrell posted:carsntrains posted:ZenGardenRails posted:Bluetooth range is actually not that bad but if there is a concern in the future they should just make little radio towers to repeat the Bluetooth signal across your layout.... It would be a wonderful marriage of form and function
Cool idea! Not sure why folks are having range problem though. They say the LC remotes will work up to 60 feet. Only person I know that may have an issue is.. Elliot~BIG BOY 4005.
Jim
I had trouble with the blue tooth function through the remote and app last week in around the 30-40 feet range. had to stay within about 20 feet of the loco.
Try a Universal remote. Lionel says they will work up to 60 feet and mine have. Not sure what the limiting reason in the app is. May try to do some reach tests tonight with mine. Does your phone/tablet work well with other Bluetooth devices like a speaker ? If you have one maybe check your phone/tablets reach with it.
Jim
