I can't find the thread and I don't remember what was covered in it but what is everyone wanting to see in the new lionel catalog? I'm hoping for some subways, MU cars and a Legacy genesis. Also, has anyone heard rumors of what may be in the catalog? I know in Trainworlds Lionel update, Ryan said the typical PRR, NYC items but what is confirmed if anyone knows.
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Im hoping for a 21" congressional set from Lionel or 21" f.o.m painted trailblazer.
I wish Lionel would announce more of the sought after Weaver models such as the RS3 and GP38 and Roadrailers-especially the smooth side ones for Triple Crown and Amtrak!
Frisco passenger cars to match those E-8's from the Vol. 1 catalog.
The Gomez Addams Railroad. Engines go 6 feet down the track, sings "The Addams Family, Click, Click", blows up, never to run again.....
Truss bridges which self destruct automatically when a train is on them...
Wonder if an ancestor of Gomez was at the staged wreck at Crush, TX?
Western Pacific LC+ 2.0 Mikado.
Hybrid Disney Steam Engine
Spider-man F40ph
Transylvania GG-1 (orange 5 black stripes)
rat
I would like a Pennsylvania S1.
A scale 611 N&W J with all the Legacy goodies.
Frisco 1522 and sisters
Union Pacific 8500 hp “Big Blow” 3 unit gas turbines
A sincere appreciation letter to Mike Wolf for pushing the Industry/hobby forward. From contractor to competitor, and yes litigant, Mike Wolf's effort forced Lionel to innovate and catch up. Which they did extremely well.
Beyond that I am always hoping for a large Reading Company steam locomotive that is not a T-1. With the future status of dcs equipped locomotives currently in flux, the right piece of equipment might make me switch back, but the price point has to be right.
Something I can afford.
The Canadian Pacific Military Heritage engines. All 5 in Legacy would be great.
Better QC!!!!!!
Would really, really love to see a Lionmaster PRR T1 again. Always thought that was such a cool locomotive and given I can't afford nor run (curve limitations) the scale version such as MTH produced, this is the best.
Fingers crossed, especially given Lionmaster products reappearing under the LC+ umbrella.
A device to enable control of LC/LC+ locos from the Cab-1 and Cab-2, and a device that will enable control of TMCC/Legacy locos by the Universal Remote. As Ryaninspiron has discussed and shown possible.
Retrofit kits so that LC, or, preferably LC+ can be put in conventional locos or locos with command systems that may have little or no future (sorry about that).
One tinplate or similar standard gauge loco and a few freight cars in standard gauge.
A subway set.
At least one postwar remake with LC 2.0+ that is affordable to most hobbyists.
@Landsteiner posted:A device to enable control of LC/LC+ locos from the Cab-1 and Cab-2, and a device that will enable control of TMCC/Legacy locos by the Universal Remote. As Ryaninspiron has discussed and shown possible.
Retrofit kits so that LC, or, preferably LC+ can be put in conventional locos or locos with command systems that may have little or no future (sorry about that).
One tinplate or similar standard gauge loco and a few freight cars in standard gauge.
A subway set.
At least one postwar remake with LC 2.0+ that is affordable to most hobbyists.
I agree. Especially on the 2.0 set. The F3 set was very nice but not 1k nice.
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Im hoping for a 21" congressional set from Lionel or 21" f.o.m painted trailblazer.
Last time I saw Ryan Kunkle... which was maybe around January.. I told him i was very interested in a Congressional set and his replay was "that would be very cool to make"
So, at least the idea of it is on their radar
As far as existing tooling goes, a set of VIA Rail F40s and some matching 21'' passenger cars would be awesome. From a new tooling standpoint, Strasburg Rail Road #90 would for sure bring some hardships to my wallet.
A Legacy PRR T-1 would be nice if I'm honest.
K4 with short haul tender (like the 2011 release)... and with the same paint colors they used back then!!! The bright aluminum smokebox and bright red tender deck paint on the recent H10s hurt my eyes
I would like to see.........
Scale open sided auto racks.
Scale enclosed auto rack with sounds.
The Lionscale (Weaver tooling) actually produced. Especially the wood chip hoppers I have been waiting for for several years now.
Maybe a couple of 0-4-0 or 0-6-0's made for Buffalo Creek railway. Also a 6 pack of Buffalo Creek Railway boxcars.
Wtshful thinking but it is all right to wish it may come true...........................Paul 2
@Trainlover9943 posted:I agree. Especially on the 2.0 set. The F3 set was very nice but not 1k nice.
Ditto. I went back and forth on that one many times. I really wanted to buy that set but that price point was, er, out there. Actually made the decision easier in the end.
Many of us have been calling for some sort of nod to PW or PW-inspired in the recent catalogs. Trying again, Lionel. 
@paul 2 posted:I would like to see.........
Scale open sided auto racks.
Scale enclosed auto rack with sounds.
I forgot. Yes, sound cars. I'd prefer command control ones but conventional would work too.
Tier IV GEVOs pretty please
PRR M1b #6755.
I want a scale Interstate Alco RS-3 diesel. I think Lionel has the K-Line tooling.
After this year they may be the only game in town. (for the most part) You'll get what they make. LOL! It's a joke. I'm kidding before anyone gets upset.
@Trainlover9943 posted:I can't find the thread and I don't remember what was covered in it but what is everyone wanting to see in the new lionel catalog? I'm hoping for some subways, MU cars and a Legacy genesis. Also, has anyone heard rumors of what may be in the catalog? I know in Trainworlds Lionel update, Ryan said the typical PRR, NYC items but what is confirmed if anyone knows.
We were talking over here, but who's keeping score.
https://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/...4#146001355019150814
As for what, well, if it's steam, I'll like it. Diesel, maybe not, electric, we'll see. All anyone can really do is hope, and that goes for so many levels. See what comes I suppose.
- Some new accessories.
Lionel reproduced most P/W accessories back in the late '90s & early 2000s which were very well received and still popular today. And it's time to produce some innovative and fresh accessories.
- Halloween.
- Surfliner passenger cars.
LC +2 Spokane Portland & Seattle F-7's would perk my interest.
More TOS Star Trek goodies.
Dilithium ore car.
Matter / Antimatter containment car.
Legacy streetcar and/or trolley. Also, a Lionchief plus 2.0 Amtrak set.
Landsteiner nailed it:
"A device to enable control of LC/LC+ locos from the Cab-1 and Cab-2, and a device that will enable control of TMCC/Legacy locos by the Universal Remote. As Ryaninspiron has discussed and shown possible.
Retrofit kits so that LC, or, preferably LC+ can be put in conventional locos or locos with command systems that may have little or no future (sorry about that)."
As for me- anything PRR; especially an LC Plus 2.0 GP-7 or 9. As far as I know- the last Pennsy GP-9 was 2015 (SKU: 6-82792) in Legacy. They don't pop up for sale very often.
- Legacy scale PRR ALCO S2 switcher again but at a lower price.
- Postwar scale PRR E6 Atlantic with the features of their recently released Legacy A6 Atlantic.
- Legacy scale PRR S2 Steam Turbine #6200 with smoke deflectors and back to real coal load.
- And the one we will never see: Legacy scale PRR T1 4-4-4-4.
Oh, what the heck... Even though snowballs in a certain hot place have a better chance...
A Legacy American Flyer S Scale SD40-2.
Rusty
Ron, the T1, Class A, and Dreyfuss are all waiting for some magical tooling to appear. If by some small miracle one of those three pop into the catalog that are scale, look out. Hopefully if they do manage to do so, hopefully they won't have them all in the same catalog at the exact same time with as many different versions(including the purple cow version that was never intended for the public to see). That would definitely make a lot of people happy to see any of those three produced. I know I have said that the Dreyfuss I would order each version(except the purple cow) that is based on the real deal. I don't want any fantasy schemes of it.
One thing I am sure that will probably be making its way around the rotary is probably Y steam engines. Was it 2012 or so for Y3's, and 2015 & 2016 for Y6? I can't remember what the other locomotives that where produced around the same time, H7's? I think that was what they were, or something someone will correct me on.
Gee. Why do posts like this always seem to crop up about a month after the prior catalog hit the streets? Was that one not good enough? 
@RadioRon posted:Gee. Why do posts like this always seem to crop up about a month after the prior catalog hit the streets? Was that one not good enough?
Maybe what they want was not there. Always what’s next if you don’t see what you want. That’s the only thing I can think of. Of course boredom with no train shows gets to you. Catalogs are the train show since Romona Corona came into town.
How about a new Conventional Classics Set?
Sunrise
3-unit U.P Big Blow set in diecast, or a veranda turbine.
@RadioRon posted:Gee. Why do posts like this always seem to crop up about a month after the prior catalog hit the streets? Was that one not good enough?
Because Lionel has said that the 2020, part 2 catalog will be released on July 15.
@Sunrise Special posted:How about a new Conventional Classics Set?
Sunrise
I'd consider it. Just hope it wouldn't cost an arm and a leg.
@laz1957 posted:Better QC!!!!!!
Hope might not be enough. Maybe praying would work.
Deliver product as advertised. As they say on shark tank "For those reasons I'm out".
Do we know when exactly the catalog is going to be released? I know its typically mid-to-late July but can't remember if Lionel has given a specific date for this years yet.
The Vision Line version of the Hudson. It wouldn't actually be Vision now, and shouldn't be priced as such, since those features have filtered down into other engines.
And with some variety, other than NYC. No centipede PT, or Vanderbilt tenders. A lot of other Hudsons have been made with those, including the J3a's with all the squabbling about the lights. Lets see some other road names, prototypical or not.
Personally, I would like to see one as the Santa Fe warhorse Hudson, disc wheels, standard 6-wheel tender, maybe the polar express type. Not the NYC type with the long coal load. The weathering could be optional.
It's been 10 years for the VL style Hudson, it's due.
Dave
I never can tell if these are lists of guesses that we think Lionel might make, or wish lists of what we could hope for. If it is the second option, I would like something like this.
It is a little late to celebrate the 80th anniversary of the 1939-40 World's Fair, but I would like something like this.
By the same token of what many have been saying, its time for the F40 to come back. It would be great to see new paint schemes like VIA, MTA, and Grand Canyon. Maybe even new cabbage schemes? In 2017 I asked lionel on a facebook live if they had any plans to do a New Jersey Transit one, and it was hinted that the tooling was available but the licencing was still needed.... Also, that Amtrak cab controlled amfleet car that hasn't seen the face of a catalog since 2010 would be a great seller if it had the functionality of a cabbage. If the niche is there, I'd also say Legacy HHP-8s. As for a new tooling, something like the Legacy H10; variety of features, no 072 min curve requirement, but also doesn't break the bank.
Legacy Hiawatha w/Whistle Steam.
Jim
I might be in for a Grand Canyon F40 set. Their Budd coach rolling and station sounds full length dome car could be used.
Hoping for more MTH Engines, Cars and DCS.
@rdj92807 posted:Hoping for more MTH Engines, Cars and DCS.
You'll be waiting a loooong time for those.
I would like to see more Postwar style trains and train sets like the 120th anniversary Sante Fe train set. They don't have to be exact duplicates of postwar trains but I like the feel and look of Postwar trains.
How about a set of the original Metroliners in PRR,Penn Central and Amtrak?
E3b
Mike promised to make it, 
Vision line Thomas the tank engine!!!!
@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:Vision line Thomas the tank engine!!!!
Heck why not? In fact, I would like to see some of these scale locomotives in Lionel Lines!☺
Top load grain box cars.
traditional game sized Providence and Worcester GP locomotive
@Dj'sOgaugetrains posted:Vision line Thomas the tank engine!!!!
I’m fully on board with this. I’d love a legacy Thomas.
Amtrak Siemens Charger any version, S2 PRR Turbine
I feel as it's been a while since we've seen a N&W Y6 or Class A.
@Madockawando posted:Heck why not? In fact, I would like to see some of these scale locomotives in Lionel Lines!☺
I’m not hoping for anything, but if a scale Legacy Lionel Lines Hudson should happen to be included in this upcoming catalog, it would certainly get my attention. Heck, a Lionel Lines Lionmaster LC+ 2.0 version, using the Lionmaster NYC Hudson tooling (if that is possible) would be okay too.
@GregM posted:I’m not hoping for anything, but if a scale Legacy Lionel Lines Hudson should happen to be included in this upcoming catalog, it would certainly get my attention. Heck, a Lionel Lines Lionmaster LC+ 2.0 version, using the Lionmaster NYC Hudson tooling (if that is possible) would be okay too.
I like your thinking. I would love to see a detailed yet affordable Lionel Lines Lionmaster Locomotives. Two things I like about "Lionel Lines" locomotives:
- Its traditional
- Because it is in a sense "generic" you can pull any railroads rolling stock behind it.
2 Rail products
@Madockawando posted:I like your thinking. I would love to see a detailed yet affordable Lionel Lines Lionmaster Locomotives. Two things I like about "Lionel Lines" locomotives:
- Its traditional
- Because it is in a sense "generic" you can pull any railroads rolling stock behind it.
I think the Lionmaster Hudson is the best looking traditional-sized steam engine built in the modern era. Seems like a no-brainer for the new LC+2.0. If not that model, how about the K-line semi-scale Hudson. That's a close 2nd to the Lionmaster for us semi-scalers.
There were some neat Weaver MR boxcars, including spent grain boxcars, a few years ago - perhaps Lionel could re-issue as part of their LionScale line?
David
I wish they would stop making their products in kit form.
Dave
Bring back the 18" aluminum passenger cars. Not everybody likes the scale 21" plastic cars. I have a large layout where the 21" cars run fine but I prefer the slightly shorten cars.
Also, please make an engine, any engine that does not need to get returned or replaced immediately for quality control problems or bad electronics.
Thanks.
Donald
@Madockawando posted:Heck why not? In fact, I would like to see some of these scale locomotives in Lionel Lines!☺
About scale locomotives in Lionel Lines.
The last issue (2014) of the scale S2 Turbine had a Lionel Lines version.
When the Lionelville & Western RR debuted I thought it was to be the scale version of Lionel Lines. Not much has been made though. A Northeastern caboose and an 0-8-0 was made in 2012.
Dave
@Bob Dixey posted:How about a set of the original Metroliners in PRR,Penn Central and Amtrak?
Using the 18" Amfleet cab car tooling would be a great start; the only (probably) new tooling would be the correct sideframes on the trucks.
Over the past 15 years with at times various rumors of a "DNR" in place for this highly detailed and selectively compressed product line I'm glad that Lionel has kept their Lionmaster semi-scale line on life support and did not completely pull the plug. Besides the SD80/90 diesels, they've reissued w/ Legacy or LC+2 the Big Boy (2x), class A, challenger and T-1, BUT I still must ask @Conrail6358 (Ryan K.) and @Dave Olson why hasn't Lionel reissued their great looking and popular Lionmaster Hudson (2004) or CabForward (2007) with either Legacy or their (TMCC enhanced/Legacy LITE) LC+2 electronics? Both the Hudson and cab-fwd have a very strong secondary market demand and it's been almost a generation since we've seen a new version. In addition to their respective original issued roadnames, I imagine both these models would be popular with a "Lionel Lines" roadname option.
It would be good to see a Lionmaster steam offering once every 3 to 4 years ...especially now that the future of MTH's Railking line is imperiled. Depending on how things settle out... maybe Lionel could license or rent some of the Railking tooling and produce those items with Lionel's electronics? Lionel did similar with a number of the K-Line scale tooling.
I'm not normally a Lionel buyer, but have no bias against the company.
Personally I'd like to see more 21" Budd cars, but have them sold as individual cars and not as sets. For example, I'd like to add some coaches and they did a nice job with those. I'd also like to see them make a Budd baggage / dorm, not a baggage / coach. I don't need any more observations, diners, or dome cars at this time so the sets don't appeal to me much.
Like GG1 4877, I am not really a Lionel modeler or fan, but I will admit their subway sets are fantastic. I missed the boat earlier with the R27, R30 & R16 sets. I hoping a rerun of the R27/R30 would be in the works especially in the Redbird paint scheme. And I'm still hoping for some more Post GOH modern stuff like the R38, R42, R44/46, R68 and maybe a R160. I like their M7's but think it's time for Lionel to really put that MTA license to work!
Well, l see somebody else also wants #90...l'll take mine in original Great Western livery, and still want the Little River 2-4-4-2...which would run on all the layouts that won't turn a Big Boy..both would require new tooling... since both the Strasburg and the Little River's Smokies are very heavily visited in normal years, a few would sell.
@jonnyspeed posted:2 Rail products
That would be great. I hate to be negative but I just don’t see it happening. Hopefully, I will be wrong.
a traditional o gauge version of the ELX Midnight special i don't have a chance with the legacy version
ELX tier 4
ELX halloween k4
an lc2.0 halloween freight set
a jessie halloween train (Jessie was a disney show from 2011 to 2015)
a clear ghost train
1. LionChief Plus 2.0 Santa Fe Warbonnet F3 AA Set (separate from the 120th Anniversary Set), with an optional, powered matching B unit
2. LionMaster/LC+ 2.0 Northern 4-8-4 Steam Locomotives - Santa Fe #3751 would be AMAZING
3. Another round of traditional-sized Madison passenger car sets - Santa Fe would be nice, but as you can tell, I'm a little biased.
4. Honestly, I'd really like my 2019 Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 orders first before considering buying anything else...
Paigetrain says: "A clear ghost train".
Brilliant. Best idea on Halloween trains in long time!
Thanks! Let's hope Lionel takes it under consideration. 
@Patrick Downing posted:1. LionChief Plus 2.0 Santa Fe Warbonnet F3 AA Set (separate from the 120th Anniversary Set), with an optional, powered matching B unit
If the Santa Fe F3 AA separate sale set came with the same announcements as the Super Chief starter set FT engine look out. I can see the possibility of doing what I have sworn not to do and pre-order them.
I don’t believe I have anything to worry about since the likelihood of that happening is IMO even less than this next catalog having a similar PRR F3 AA set in the non-prototypical Tuscan paint scheme some of us want. If I am wrong and both sets are in this upcoming catalog could be quite the dilemma or just expensive.
something with a price less then the average mortgage payment that runs right out of the box and lasts for a year or more.....too much to ask???
My top choice would be more of the Union Pacific Heritage passenger cars. Ideally, would like a full set of the heritage cars.
It really shouldn't be that difficult given existing products:
40' DD Express TTG boxcar accurate height and also with high speed trucks.
21" UP passenger cars. Late 40's to 50's "in service" appearance sets.
Then also separately offer choices of individual blunt end dome observation cars with "City" drumheads for COSF, COLA, and COSL.
Modelers can build the length of a passenger train with one or two different 4-car sets then separately choose the individually offered "named train" observation cars.
Modify the existing observation car with a clean blunt end to be used for all and make a chromed drumhead piece for each train name. Paint with different accurate car numbers.
Someone like me would definitely buy at least two different 4 car sets and all three separate observation offerings. I could interchange the the observation cars as I wished. Others might just pick up only the one city car they really want. Please listen to customers who are telling you they will actually spend money to purchase.
@David98 posted:There were some neat Weaver MR boxcars, including spent grain boxcars, a few years ago - perhaps Lionel could re-issue as part of their LionScale line?
David
I wasn't aware of these. I'll watch for them on the secondary market. I'll still hold onto the small hope Lionel will reproduce these knowing all the Milwaukee Road ribbed cars are great sellers,
central of georgia
I'll join the chorus for a scale Legacy NYC Dreyfuss Hudson with matching 20th Century Limited cars. Would think doing a vision line version with multiple smoke effects would be warranted. I would buy all of that. Two road numbers at least, especially if they had the different tenders and paint schemes.
The PC&F 57' Mechanical Refrigerator cars
both LionScale 6-car set and Made in China O scale editions
SOO LINE 10000 to 10018 even numbers only
All 10 road numbers.
Lights, sounds, smoke in 1 reefer made in China.
built for the SOO LINE in 1965
Andrew
Falcon Service
Western Maryland 1309, “Maryland Thunder”
My wants in life are simple: a reasonably accurate Milwaukee Road transfer caboose.
A NYC woodsided caboose with more scale proportioned separately applied details . The ones in the last catalog are still using the same car from the mid 80’s. Time to re tool or offer ones done in brass.
PRR K5, brass hybrid....
@prrhorseshoecurve posted:Im hoping for a 21" congressional set from Lionel or 21" f.o.m painted trailblazer.
I wish Lionel would announce more of the sought after Weaver models such as the RS3 and GP38 and Roadrailers-especially the smooth side ones for Triple Crown and Amtrak!
I’m with you on the GP38; perhaps some nice, plain blue Conrail ones!
@Dave_C posted:A NYC woodsided caboose with more scale proportioned separately applied details . The ones in the last catalog are still using the same car from the mid 80’s. Time to re tool or offer ones done in brass.
Are the ones from the last catalog at least scale length?
The O scale LEGACY GP30 and GP35 have yet to be produced in the SOO LINE schemes and graphics as built and delivered during 1963 and 1964.
The O scale Extended-Vision Caboose in the GT or GTW scheme of the GRAND TRUNK WESTERN and CV scheme of the CENTRAL VERMONT.
SOO LINE Extended-Vision Cabooses in new road numbers for the SOO GP30 and GP35 models.
What might actually happen is that they have GRAND TRUNK WESTERN and CENTRAL VERMONT GP9 diesel-electric locomotive in the 1970's and 1980's paint schemes, because people ordered the GTW GP9 from 3rd Rail.
Andrew
If the U30C returns are they going to finally have the SOO LINE 1968 paint scheme produced?
If the SD40 returns will it be made in the SOO LINE 1969-1970 paint scheme?
I was hoping that the LionScale Modern 50' plug-door box cars would be produced in the CENTRAL VERMONT White, Black & Green paint schemes applied to CV 50095 to 50099 in 1974 by Berwick, Forge & Foundry. They could add CV 50100 in that CENTRAL VERMONT scheme to make it an even 6 car set.
Andrew
The ACF CENTER FLOW, 3560 Cubic Foot, 3-bay covered hoppers that are now in the LionScale line still have yet to be produced for
ALASKA RAILROAD
Boston & Maine
Chesapeake & Ohio original scheme
DULUTH, MISSABE & IRON RANGE
ILLINOIS CENTRAL GULF
NORCHEM
CORN PRODUCTS
Similar covered hoppers were owned by SOUTHERN
The O scale ACF CENTER FLOW, 3560 Cu Ft, 3-bay covered hopper in the LionScale line needs to be put on Roller Bearing trucks since it was built after 1965.
Andrew
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