Got myself a new project, got this very Rusty and dirty 254E and 610 passenger car for $50 on eBay. As you can see from the pics, it's going to need a lot of work but I'm up for the challenge! 20170608_202425

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I thought about bidding on that one,  but didn't... I've got too many projects as it is!  That's not that bad, I've bought worse!  You can do it!  Just go slow, take everything apart carefully, keep track of the parts, ask questions here if your not sure of something.  It'll look great when you are done!

 

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And Orange, and Pea Green, and Dark Olive.  Some of them had bottom bead stripes and/or hatches painted a trim color (red, orange, cream)

 

There is a small number of red 254s that made it into either Macys sets or Sears sets. This has been documented in the past, but I cannot confirm it.

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Rob English posted:

And Orange, and Pea Green, and Dark Olive.  Some of them had bottom bead stripes and/or hatches painted a trim color (red, orange, cream)

 

There is a small number of red 254s that made it into either Macys sets or Sears sets. This has been documented in the past, but I cannot confirm it.

Bruce Greenberg, in his recent studies of Lionel's Prewar "0" gauge production, has seen and photographed these body colors of the 254/254E locos: Dark Green, Mojave, Light Olive, Orange (Lionel - Yellow), Light Green and Pea Green.

Ron M

Blake posted:

So what would be a good match for Light olive green at least in Lionel colors? 

Henning's sells Collector Color. Their Olive and maroon will be an exact match and is easy to use. Its what I used on my 610 cars 35 years ago before Henning's took over the line. They are also a forum sponsor.

Pete

Dennis and Blake, what kind of spray guns are you using? I haven't had super-good results with rattle cans, and am thinking about diving in with a sprayer, since I have a compressor already....what kind of paint are you using, enamel, lacquer, latex???

GeoPeg posted:

Dennis and Blake, what kind of spray guns are you using? I haven't had super-good results with rattle cans, and am thinking about diving in with a sprayer, since I have a compressor already....what kind of paint are you using, enamel, lacquer, latex???

I'm using a badger 155 airbrush that I got a few years ago, the paint is Olsen's Lionel collector color paint which enamel paint! 

I was using an older pasche airbrush.  I forget the model,  I managed to get a decent paint job, but I have a lot to learn I think.  I'm still not comfortable determining how much to thin and brush settings etc.  To top it off, I intended to spray a coat of gloss clear but mistakenly grabbed a can of satin and sprayed all of them with that.  They looked great before  the satin, but I don't like the after satin.  Also I need to buy the decals and there are a bunch of them on these cars.  That paint I used is an enamel and I just used regular paint thinner that I bought from Menards.

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Timothy Sprague posted:

very nice. get those brass inserts nice and bright and it will look awesome. I painted one black a few years ago, i know it was never a 254 color, but wanted a Coal Train.

Tim

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Tim, I like your coal train each and every time you post it!!

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A good sprayer is the Paasche #62 3oz. sprayer.  $49.95 w/ a 10' air hose that fits any 1/4" pipe thread compressor outlet. Only 35# pressure needed, 25# min. when actually spraying. The great thing is that the #62 has NO adjustments to play with. Cut the paint w/ thinner and go. Clean up is fast and easy.  If you use an air brush, it will require more thinning and more coats.  With the sprayer, I will normally only use 1 coat for like a roof.  Spray the inside first, the out side last.  I use an old electric oven to bake the paint. Set at 225 degrees, and place / hang your item on the rack.  Leave the oven door open and let the heat flow over the item. It is normally dry in 15 minutes, and then I can spray the other side. Our paint is an alkylld enamel, and is also plastic compatible. We use Naphtha as a solvent due to it's quicker flash point.  Harry 

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Harry Henning posted:

A good sprayer is the Paasche #62 3oz. sprayer.  $49.95 w/ a 10' air hose that fits any 1/4" pipe thread compressor outlet. Only 35# pressure needed, 25# min. when actually spraying. The great thing is that the #62 has NO adjustments to play with. Cut the paint w/ thinner and go. Clean up is fast and easy.  If you use an air brush, it will require more thinning and more coats.  With the sprayer, I will normally only use 1 coat for like a roof.  Spray the inside first, the out side last.  I use an old electric oven to bake the paint. Set at 225 degrees, and place / hang your item on the rack.  Leave the oven door open and let the heat flow over the item. It is normally dry in 15 minutes, and then I can spray the other side. Our paint is an alkylld enamel, and is also plastic compatible. We use Naphtha as a solvent due to it's quicker flash point.  Harry 

Sounds like excellent advice ... except for the oven drying part - I can only imagine my wife's reaction to such a sight! Not to mention the stinky oven! Maybe when she's out of town visiting relatives........

My oven is in the barn where we paint the MEW wheels,  then bake before mounting the nickel rims. This is shared w/ the Lionel late model race car during the summer. ( Mr.  Hitchcock,  we finished 5th in points this year).   The barn is not insulated at all.  I have to get all of my painting done before cold weather. Brrrrrrr!  Harry 

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Dennis Holler posted:

No stinky oven, do when she is asleep or not home.  I've got some headers i need to bake too...... lol

good luck fitting headers in an oven Dennis! I need new headers for the road runner..but I think I'll pull the plug and get some cermaic's

Dave

 

 

 

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Steamer posted:
Dennis Holler posted:

No stinky oven, do when she is asleep or not home.  I've got some headers i need to bake too...... lol

good luck fitting headers in an oven Dennis! I need new headers for the road runner..but I think I'll pull the plug and get some cermaic's

Thinking seriously about exactly that, plus they need to fit around clutch linkage as well��

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