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Please read my post earlier in this thread.

The worm gears on Lionel's 700-series Hudsons like your 18058 are back-driveable.  But it's a double-threaded worm, not a triple threaded one as used on the Berkshires.  So the wheels will turn the motor only after a lot of break-in time.  Lionel's 1990s-2000 Hudsons (the ones with a screw holding the wheel to the axle) are notoriously "tight," and will need a LOT of break-in time to smooth out.

Also twenty years is a long time and hardened grease is a real problem.  Be prepared to dig it out and re-lubricate.

If I have to bet, your 1964 model may have enough track time that the wheels will turn when it arrives.  But don't force them!

Regarding the handrails on the 18058, be gentle.  If the connection breaks or it shorts to the shell, you'll have no wireless command signal.  As MartyE said, the hinge side is round and the other side is straight.  That plastic is insulation for the radio signal so don't remove it.  Good luck!

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So I finally got around to putting this engine on the tracks. I now have a brand new MTH Z-4000 transformer which I love. I took the engine shell off to lubricate it where I can. Of course all the side rods. I usually clean out the gearbox and replace with synthetic grease but this one had so many circuit boards on top of the gearbox I didn't bother. Hopefully this American Made (?) engine has better grease than the stuff I find in the MTH engines. Anyway, a good oiling and I put it back together. The tender takes one standard 9 volt alkaline battery not the rechargeable type like the MTH tenders. 

I got it all ready to go - turned on the juice and let it idle for a few minutes to allow the capacitors etc. to "wake up" after sitting for 20 years. And she huffed and puffed and started breathing like an engine! - really cool!. Then I blew the whistle and the top of the tender popped off! I laughed my head off! What quality you just gotta love it. So I re-seated the thin plastic "coal" load on the tender. Hit the whistle again and POP! Off came the coal load! So I bent the plastic locating pin a little and so far it seems to be holding. Great sounding whistle though! 

Beautiful motor and drive system. VERY well done.  Everything fits together quite well. The plastic volume control pot is quite flimsy being supported only by its connection to the board but it isn't used a lot so I guess it isn't a big deal. I wish there was a physical switch to turn off the smoke. 

I am very happy with this engine and love the sounds. The infra-red connection makes it so easy to use without having to mess with plugging in wires. It pulls like a maniac. It came out of the box with the blind center drivers that have a tire. There are a pair of flanged wheels in the box to replace these if so desired. And when the tires wear out I am going to do just that.

It looks magnificent in the display case - but now that it is on duty I have my 1950 773 in the display case in its place.

Check the video - the tender thing is hilarious! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVB2PrWZGi0

Your coal load in the tender is not seated all the way down. Either you did not seat it correctly after you installed the battery, or the fit is not correct. You should not be able to see the sides of the load sticking up past the outside edge of the tender.

BTW, you don' have to instill the battery for operation, it is just to keep the sound active when the power is interrupted. 

Charlie

fisherdoc posted:

<snip> Hopefully this American Made (?) engine has better grease than the stuff I find in the MTH engines. Anyway, a good oiling and I put it back together.  <snip>

 

Check the video - the tender thing is hilarious! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVB2PrWZGi0

Fear not! The CC 773 was made in Chesterfield, MI. I had the good fortune to watch the assembly and testing of the CC 773's (Each and every one was fully tested!) during the 2000 TCA Convention summer tour of the Lionel factory. My two decade old sample is a well-made, good running loco with a hearty whistle. Ah, the good ol' days. 

Enjoy.

Bob 

Maybe a little off-topic.  I know all of the older Hudsons pretty well.  But who can point me to a list of the Hudsons made from, say, 1993 or 1994 through to the 11209 Vision Line model?  I'm trying to figure out when Lionel changed the chassis (I think it went through at least two iterations.)  Also, which ones have the wheels that screw into the ends of the axles.  Thanks!

Ted S posted:

Maybe a little off-topic.  I know all of the older Hudsons pretty well.  But who can point me to a list of the Hudsons made from, say, 1993 or 1994 through to the 11209 Vision Line model?  I'm trying to figure out when Lionel changed the chassis (I think it went through at least two iterations.)  Also, which ones have the wheels that screw into the ends of the axles.  Thanks!

Sounds like a good topic for another thread Ted, .....I’ll help contribute to that, but let’s not trample on FISHERDOC’s thread, as this will get off subject of his thread, I believe........Pat

Lionel Mod 6-18058 Century Hudson 4-6-4 #773Lionel Mod 6-28062 100th Anni Gold Hudson No. 1900Have all engines from first CC and they all run great!  Really like the Hudson and have no complaints.  I believe it was the first engine I acquired that has the infra red drawbar.  Do have others but acquired them after getting the CC engines.  And, like the CCII engines, as well.  Haven't ever run the gold 1900 Hudson.... yet...  Yes, hard to believe it has been twenty years!  So many engines, so many track miles.. so little time!

Jesse  TCA 

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