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It’s time for another Legacy conversion. We have this beautiful Scale Pennsylvania T1. This is another locomotive from the MTH Lionel lawsuit. “Lawsuit series” I’m calling it. This once again is another engine we might not see from Lionel anytime soon. It be a surprise if they did, and if they did expect to pay 3k for it...... Ill be using the sound board from the Legacy LionMaster #5511 from about 10 years ago. Little more expensive route but it should be worth it.

This thread will be dedicated only to the conversion of this Loco to Legacy. Sit back and enjoy for the next coming weeks.

Enjoy!

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It’s time for another Legacy conversion. We have this beautiful Scale Pennsylvania T1. This is another locomotive from the MTH Lionel lawsuit. “Lawsuit series” I’m calling it. This once again is another engine we might not see from Lionel anytime soon. It be a surprise if they did, and if they did expect to pay 3k for it...... Ill be using the sound board from the Legacy LionMaster #5511 from about 10 years ago. Little more expensive route but it should be worth it. 

This thread will be dedicated only to the conversion of this Loco to Legacy. Sit back and enjoy for the next coming weeks. I believe I have all the necessary parts to convert it. If not ill be dead in the water till Lionel opens back up again. 

Enjoy! 

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Can't wait to see the progress.

Update: 

This conversion will be a slow one. The tender will be pretty straight forward. I have chipped away at that first.  But the engine has been a struggle. Due to the way things are lining up, It will require 3d printed parts. Custom Brass parts as you have seen in the past are possible to make, but if I have multiple units coming through for upgrades, I want to save some time and just go with the 3d printed part.

These parts I can draw up on my computer with some ease, but my printer will not be able to print in the required materials for certain items needed. Light holders or board holders I can make at home in PLA or ABS but anything around the smoke units such as a exhaust funnel will have to be done 3rd party in material that I can not print. 

Here is an example of what I have been working on. I was not happy with the smoke volume out of the “stock” smoke unit through the stack. I will not be using the DSMK for this project due to the fact that there is not enough airflow from one fan to vent the smoke properly. I dont think the circuit can support two smoke motors and two resistors. Nothing is official yet, but the concepts are close. (And yes these items line up when the shell is on) 

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Update: 

This conversion will be a slow one. The tender will be pretty straight forward. I have chipped away at that first.  But the engine has been a struggle. Due to the way things are lining up, It will require 3d printed parts. Custom Brass parts as you have seen in the past are possible to make, but if I have multiple units coming through for upgrades, I want to save some time and just go with the 3d printed part.

These parts I can draw up on my computer with some ease, but my printer will not be able to print in the required materials for certain items needed. Light holders or board holders I can make at home in PLA or ABS but anything around the smoke units such as a exhaust funnel will have to be done 3rd party in material that I can’t not print. 

Here is an example of what I have been working on. I was not happy with the smoke volume out of the “stock” smoke unit through the stack. I will not be using the DSMK for this project due to the fact that there is not enough airflow from one fan to vent the smoke properly. I dont think the circuit can support two smoke motors and two resistors. Nothing is official yet, but the concepts are close. (And yes these items line up when the shell is on) 

Looks great Bruk.

@Bruk posted:

Update: 

This conversion will be a slow one. The tender will be pretty straight forward. I have chipped away at that first.  But the engine has been a struggle. Due to the way things are lining up, It will require 3d printed parts. Custom Brass parts as you have seen in the past are possible to make, but if I have multiple units coming through for upgrades, I want to save some time and just go with the 3d printed part.

These parts I can draw up on my computer with some ease, but my printer will not be able to print in the required materials for certain items needed. Light holders or board holders I can make at home in PLA or ABS but anything around the smoke units such as a exhaust funnel will have to be done 3rd party in material that I can’t not print. 

Here is an example of what I have been working on. I was not happy with the smoke volume out of the “stock” smoke unit through the stack. I will not be using the DSMK for this project due to the fact that there is not enough airflow from one fan to vent the smoke properly. I dont think the circuit can support two smoke motors and two resistors. Nothing is official yet, but the concepts are close. (And yes these items line up when the shell is on) 

If you are going to be using the older style modular sound boards for this engine, are you then going to have use the older motor driver boards?

The sound serial communication from the RCMC is different than the R4LC.  Jon Z. is really the guy to ask, but from my recent conversation with him, I think there may be a disconnect or two between the older modular board and what the RCMC says to the RS board.  I know that trying to drive the new Legacy RS-Lite boards with a Legacy R4LC is a no-go, that's why I mention it.  You get a few functions, but many sound effects aren't happening without having the RCMC drive the serial data to the RS-Lite board.

In the past if its IR to IR it should not be a problem using a RCMC with the older Legacy Railsounds. There is always issues if you try and hard wire the serial data lines as we all know.

In fact the the 700e Hudson is equipped with an RCMC board and this same Legacy RS6 board set up from the Vision Steam LM T1. Same idea I am using. 

@Norton posted:

FYI you can get small diameter aluminum tubing, 1/8"-5/8" OD that you can bend by hand without a tubing bender. If it would work it would be less expensive than 3D printing the parts.

https://www.mcmaster.com/flexi...end-aluminum-tubing/

Pete

I have seen this stuff before and used it. its great stuff. But my problems are that I already have 3 people interested in having this conversion done to their T1's. I need a better process for my end product that can be consistent every time. So far on my list to be able to convert 6 locos it will cost me $55 dollars for all the parts from Shapeways. (subject to change)

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