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Purchased at least 5 years ago, it failed in first year and was stored.  Took it apart today and found the all plastic gears on one truck were binding.  The motor pinion gear has a bent tooth which jams every revolution.   The pinion is a press fit and is so loose now it can be removed my hand.   Pretty sure I can fix with another 9 tooth pinion. I found a brass one on a slot car motor, but I think plastic one would be better.  

Just for personal knowledge, is this a K-line drive?

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Well, that's the K-Line truck design if that's what you mean.  Truthfully, if you have a brass gear you can press on and will work and mesh properly, that's the one I'd use.  The plastic gear has probably split and that's why it's loose.  If you press a brass gear on, make SURE you support the shaft on the opposite side of the motor or you'll wreck the motor.

@Kelunaboy posted:

Just for personal knowledge, is this a K-line drive?

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Not sure what you mean by "K-Line drive?" While this truck design was used by K-Line in the S-2, Alco FA, RDC Budd car and the MP-15, it was used by Lionel first in all of their starter set types of diesel locomotives.

Matter of fact, I can tell by the photo this is unquestionably a Lionel version (aside from the extra and different colored wires) because Lionel to my knowledge has always placed the traction tire wheels both on the same geared side of the engine. K-Line put them all over the place, but most frequently in a diagonal arrangement, with one traction tire wheel on the geared side of the loco, and the other on the other axle on the other side.

I think Lionel's traction tire arrangement is much better and doesn't cause the same amount of "gear growl" as do the K-Line engines mentioned above.

But Ryan Selvius is correct: On this particular 2005 cataloged engine, Lionel used a plastic pinion gear right off the motor, instead of the usual brass gear. And as such, there have been many documented problems with that gear breaking on this particular engine.

It would be easier to get a Lionel replacement motor with the brass gear. FYI, a similar K-Line motor will not work because the number of gear teeth on the pinion gear on the motor shaft is different on K-Line's motor versus the Lionel one.

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Thanks everyone!   I used term the "K-Line drive" because it resembles the drives in my K-Line locos and I recall seeing "K-Line by Lionel" or similar phrase.

Anyway my pinion swap hasn't work so far.  Supporting the shaft, I tapped a brass gear on - went on with single light tap.  Mesh feels fine when turned by hand,
but when assembled and on the track I hear the motor spinning at high speed and truck gears are not engaged.  Not sure what is happening until I can power
it up on the bench.  My dad taught me to be a DIY guy so fixing this going to happen!

Looked up the parts on the Lionel site and the motors are available as is the truck assembly below.

62088431064-WHL MTR TRK / W/MTR / W/SNSR / STARTER DIESEL


I believe W/SNSR refers a sensor in the truck connected to the sound board.
The purple-orange-black ribbon cable plugs into a board with chip labeled "diesel",  in the lower left side of photo.


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Alaska #1804 is out of the shop and running like new!   Both motors had a problem with the original plastic pinion gears, I replaced one with a slot car pinion I had, and used the new motor with pinion on the second truck.  Could have used a exploded view parts diagram to guide me, but I worked it out and only required one trip to hardware store to replace the "speed nut" holding on the middle gear.

Gaining confidence with train repairs and find it as enjoyable as running trains and layout building.

Thanks to everyone for the assist!

Alan

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