Lionel ATSF Brass Hybrid Announcement

And BTW I just tried the pre-order process and it appears you pay 100% UP FRONT!  And the least expensive delivery to me is $49.95 (which they also appear to want up front.)  Given Lionel's on time delivery history they may have your money for quite a while.

They generously will wait to collect sales tax until it ships!

To clarify this: You do not need to pay 100% now. When you complete the order process you will get an email that your preorder has gone through.  You will be charged the full amount when these locomotives ship - which we hope to be in late December.

Glad to see there is a lot of buzz around these, several have already been sold.  Thank you,

Ryan and the Lionel Team

Thanks for the update.  Perhaps a statement on the order page to this effect would be appropriate?

Conrail6358 posted:

To clarify this: You do not need to pay 100% now. When you complete the order process you will get an email that your preorder has gone through.  You will be charged the full amount when these locomotives ship - which we hope to be in late December.

Glad to see there is a lot of buzz around these, several have already been sold.  Thank you,

Ryan and the Lionel Team

Thanks for the update.  Perhaps a statement on the order page to this effect would be appropriate?

I'm happy to see Lionel enter another market, but it just causes me more fear that they will be permanently leaving my market and I will not be able to send them my money anymore.  As I've said in the other threads, I can't have brass in my house, too many kids playing with the trains.  And in no way will I not let them do so.  Can't get them in the hobby if I don't let them use them.

Lionel has had a serious lack of nice Legacy steam locomotives with O36 min radius.  Even more lack of ATSF in that category.  They need to take the LC+ steamer bodies and put Legacy guts in them.  I have yet to meet a kid that likes running LC locomotives, they hate that built-in safety delay.  They will if that's all there is, but they don't do it for long.  If I give them a Cab-1, or let them use the transformer throttle, then they'll run them a lot longer.

SINCLAIR, IF you have not seen this particular Well Designed Locomotive, It's my personal feelings that You Need Not Worry about your Grand Kids, It's Welded and made Well. The Really Neat Feature is it can be operated by The I-Phone, So, Your Grand Kids will have a Grand Time....It's a fun time in Our Hobby, and this is Locomotive will be a Great Heirloom to Leave for Your Family...I am excited to see Lionel go this Direction....Wow!  So, It's Legacy Controlled, and I-Phone Compatible. Let's have fun running our trains....I ordered the Sante Fe 3222 in Black...

I would like to see Lionel put a Kadee coupler pad on the tender. Anyone else? Is it too late to add it Ryan?

I too would appreciate kadee mounting pads!!!

jonnyspeed posted:

I would like to see Lionel put a Kadee coupler pad on the tender. Anyone else? Is it too late to add it Ryan?

You might have to eMail him directly, as I don't think the Lionel folks pay much attention to the 3RS (3-Rail SCALE) forum, since Mike R departed. Just a thought.

There's lots of Thoughts, all Really Good, so, Lionel could make a 2 Rail Scale Version with KD coupling, Three Rail Scale Version with a KD Coupling System, or add the Swinging Bell, Cylinder Exhaust, and Rear Blowdown and keep the coil coupler on the neat tender....Wow, it's fun to Dream...$$$$$$$

I sent an email to Dave Olson.  I will post his reply.

Great news from Dave Olson....

I am glad to see Lionel reading and interested in our Ideas....If there is a scale coupler mounting on the tender, what happens yo the coil coupler? Just Wondering? 

leapinlarry posted:

I am glad to see Lionel reading and interested in our Ideas....If there is a scale coupler mounting on the tender, what happens yo the coil coupler? Just Wondering? 

Simply do what I have done to ALL my steam locomotive models, i.e. remove that big coupler and throw it in the trash! Oh, wait,,,,,,,,I also did that to what few diesel models I have.

Here is where all my lobster claws end up....

Question if this model uses the dicast frame from the the legacy mikados why is the minimum radius for this engine 054? I have the legacy mikado and it does 036 curves and switches just fine. 

Lionelzwl2012 posted:

Question if this model uses the dicast frame from the the legacy mikados why is the minimum radius for this engine 054? I have the legacy mikado and it does 036 curves and switches just fine. 

Please remember that this is a "scale" model, and thus the tender is more closely coupled to the engine than most/many "toy train" steam models. Also, this is the 3RS (3-Rail SCALE) Forum, thus the modelers here generally have much larger curves and a more "scale oriented" layout.