Lionel Chessie T-1 6-18011 Mods

That is really cool I always have loved the Chessie steam special. I have the ac motor version that I would like to upgrade to ERR and a DC motor. but have no idea where to start and I heard of timko does conversions but know nothing about them.

 

I would love every aspect of model railroading if it wasn't for the wiring and soldering  

Jhainer posted:

That is really cool I always have loved the Chessie steam special. I have the ac motor version that I would like to upgrade to ERR and a DC motor. but have no idea where to start and I heard of timko does conversions but know nothing about them.

 

I got a Timko motor a few years ago for my AF 4-8-4. Got it off of Ebay. It was a simple unscrew, replace, and re-screw, attach wires. Our Steam Specials should be the same way since they use a driveshaft to couple the motor to the gearing. Once again, being new to the 3-rail community, I didn't know any better. I would have done the ac-dc motor conversion and ordered the ERR DC Commander kit. The ERR system is straight forward. There's YouTube videos on how to do it. The only problem is, if you want to add "more stuff" to the engine, (i.e. fan driven smoke unit, Super-Chuffer) then you need to increase the size (number of wires) of the tether wire like I did. I used the 10 wire tether from MTH, think I have 2 wires left.

I can honestly say I'm learning as I go.

Chris

Jhainer posted:

That is really cool I always have loved the Chessie steam special. I have the ac motor version that I would like to upgrade to ERR and a DC motor. but have no idea where to start and I heard of timko does conversions but know nothing about them.

Such a deal I have for you.  I have one of these that was stripped for upgrade.  It has the Timko DC motor and an MTH fan driven smoke unit all mounted and ready for the electronic upgrade.  It was painted and it's all black right now and unnumbered, but you could swap your boiler and tender shell and be ready for the TMCC upgrade.   You could even sell the all black one with the AC chassis.

The Mini EX arrived today. Already installed and ready to program. This thing is tiny!  The program switch didn't come with push on connectors, so I  soldered to the pins on and heatshrinked.  I'll be using the long antenna due to the metal cover for the coal bin, unless I can find some sheet ABS and mold it. Anybody have some ultra thin ABS?  Decals are next on the agenda.

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Hand brake was installed over the weekend. Now I need to get it painted up.

 

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Chris

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Why not float the tender shell, that's the classic way to create a TMCC antenna?  Some Kapton tape and plastic screws and you have a giant antenna.

Here's the latest installment for today.

I'm always a bit apprehensive to try new things, ie. (make decals). This whole process is very time consuming. I'll list what I used at the bottom of this post. But here's the left side of the tender and I couldn't be any more pleased with the results. A huge Thank You to C&O Allie for providing the WORD document so I could make the decals. These were exactly the right size for this Mohawk Hudson Tender. I did have to use the Horse vs. train race from one set and the "Chessie Steam Special" from another set, to get what I was looking for. There were 2 sets on the same page.

But what surprised me was the tender number and the gallons for the rear of the tender. I didn't realize the reason Allan had those numbers and words with a black background. So, I removed the black background and just tried printing the numbers and words in yellow. I had everything ready to apply and I put them on and you couldn't see anything. Hummmmm...So I pulled those off before they set up and went to the sides. SUCCESS!  The sides look great! Both sides are exactly the same. THANK YOU ALLAN!

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Now, back to the rear of the tender. I printed out some more numbers and letters but with the black background... I did everything the same as before. To get the quality of printing I was looking for, I used the photo setting in the printer properties and BEST image quality. I printed this decals twice allowing the ink to dry in between printings. 

But on the first reprint, I don't think I left the ink dry long enough and when I sprayed the bonding spray, the yellow numbers and letters turned orange. So, now I'm on my second reprinting and I'm going to let the ink dry until I get ready to turn in for the night and then spray. That way they'll be ready for tomorrow. I sprayed 2 light coats to seal the ink, allowing the bonder to dry in between coats.

This is what happened on the first reprint after bonding.

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And this is what I'm waiting on to dry. This is before bonding.

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Oh, almost forgot the hand brake is now painted.

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This is what I used to make the decals. I bought these off of Amazon. Best of all, these are Made in USA. I'm very happy with this product from Testors. This decal paper is for inkjet printers ONLY. I've used 2 of the 6 sheets in this process.  You need the Bonder Spray to prevent the ink from washing off when you soak the decals. As I stated in my last posts, I'm always learning, and sometimes I use more product than necessary to do the job.

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Jayhawk500 posted:

Here's the latest installment for today.

I'm always a bit apprehensive to try new things, ie. (make decals). This whole process is very time consuming. I'll list what I used at the bottom of this post. But here's the left side of the tender and I couldn't be any more pleased with the results. A huge Thank You to C&O Allie for providing the WORD document so I could make the decals. These were exactly the right size for this Mohawk Hudson Tender. I did have to use the Horse vs. train race from one set and the "Chessie Steam Special" from another set, to get what I was looking for. There were 2 sets on the same page.

But what surprised me was the tender number and the gallons for the rear of the tender. I didn't realize the reason Allan had those numbers and words with a black background. So, I removed the black background and just tried printing the numbers and words in yellow. I had everything ready to apply and I put them on and you couldn't see anything. Hummmmm...So I pulled those off before they set up and went to the sides. SUCCESS!  The sides look great! Both sides are exactly the same. THANK YOU ALLAN!

DSCN2380

Now, back to the rear of the tender. I printed out some more numbers and letters but with the black background... I did everything the same as before. To get the quality of printing I was looking for, I used the photo setting in the printer properties and BEST image quality. I printed this decals twice allowing the ink to dry in between printings. 

But on the first reprint, I don't think I left the ink dry long enough and when I sprayed the bonding spray, the yellow numbers and letters turned orange. So, now I'm on my second reprinting and I'm going to let the ink dry until I get ready to turn in for the night and then spray. That way they'll be ready for tomorrow. I sprayed 2 light coats to seal the ink, allowing the bonder to dry in between coats.

This is what happened on the first reprint after bonding.

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And this is what I'm waiting on to dry. This is before bonding.

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Oh, almost forgot the hand brake is now painted.

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This is what I used to make the decals. I bought these off of Amazon. Best of all, these are Made in USA. I'm very happy with this product from Testors. This decal paper is for inkjet printers ONLY. I've used 2 of the 6 sheets in this process.  You need the Bonder Spray to prevent the ink from washing off when you soak the decals. As I stated in my last posts, I'm always learning, and sometimes I use more product than necessary to do the job.

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Chris,

Not a problem - the decal job looks great!  Seeing you do your tender brings back memories of my daughter and I doing mine.  I really love that this hobby is something people can share with each other.  

Thank you to you both for the kind words! For some reason the system isn't allowing me to reply to your posts.

I have a 6"x12" .060 thick sheet of ABS coming for the cover on the coal bin. So, besides putting all of the grab irons and handrails back on I'm pretty much will be done with the tender. I did try and spray the decals for the rear of the tender last night. The black still bled into the yellow turning it orange somewhat. I do have another plan...I'll post it up if it works.

Until next time...

 

 

 

Chris

Chris,

Try spraying 2-3 coats of the bonder on the black decals.  I made mine pretty thick to prevent the bleeding.  I also didn't leave the decal in the water too long when applying.  I had it in there for 15-20 secs and then let it sit until the decal started sliding off the backing with just a little pressure.

Well I got it to work. Reprint again yesterday, sprayed 4 very light coats and used a hair dryer in between to ensure the decal didn't stay too wet too long. I also went to the local print shop to see if they could make something at small. He said he'd try but no guarantees. So now I have a backup plan. If the print shop fails, I now have my decals.

Chris

Okay, The print shop was a failure. Letters were too small for the printer. So I resorted back to the decals. I put the first decal on and the 16000 GALS. WATER disappeared on the black body. But yet, I can see them on the paper...DUH, I'm using clear decal paper. I should be using white decal paper so the yellow numbers and letters stand out. So, Back to Amazon....to get the correct paper.

Chris

Sorry its taken so long to get this post up. Life has gotten in the way, I bought my dream car so a total frame off restoration is in order. Now I have to paint the house and rebuild a deck before winter. Yeahhhhhh.......

But I did get the white decal paper the other day and I got the rear decals made. I'm not too impressed with the white paper, but it is what it is. I think I should be able to put a small amount of paint around the edges to hide the fact its a decal. I just wish the clear would have worked instead.

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This could be my last post until the summer is over. Thanks again to GunrunnerJohn and C&O Allie for their help thus far. Thanks to everyone else for the kind words over the past few months.

Please remember to be fire safe this summer. Looks to be a mild fire season in the PNW. Hope everyone one else has a mild fire season too.

Chris

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