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Hey everyone! First off thank you for the overwhelming amount of knowledge and support you give! After all the help with audio amp replacements, ps2 and ps3 troubleshooting, legacy questions etc, ive gone backwards and down the rabbit hole of restoring conventional locos now lol

I have a new to me Lionel Classics 44E freight set #6-51001 from 1989. Gears were frozen shut, complete teardown. Lots of smiles/miles on this loco atleast!

The motor armature was rubbing against a rivet inside, damaging the windings enough to remove a small trace of winding. I grinded down rivet smooth etc.

Ohms test to confirm as it was running at 2-2.4 amps and sparking alot. (Did clean everything from wheels, gears, motor, e-unit, pickups, new brush springs etc)

A-B= 2.3

A-C= 2.4

B-C= 1.4 ohms

Being curious/bored late lastnight i soldered the missing gap in the winding and everything ohms out equally at 1.3 -1.4 ohms all around. Is this a "valid" repair or totally a bad idea?

My main problem is i dont have the manual or can find one anywhere to order a replacement armature. (Hence the dumb idea to solder it lol)

As always thanks for the help!

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The other windings are damaged as well. It really needs to be rewound which isn’t a difficult job. You could do it yourself. There has to be a reason why it was hitting the rivet and grinding it down is not the real answer. You need to find out why it was doing it. Did it have shim washers for example that have been left out from a previous repair?

Yea the windings are really shot. I agree with the above poster. I've done a lot of work on that type of motor it looks exactly like a pre war motor like a type 8 motor from 1930 or 1931. That armature is shifting back and forth. There should be a fiber washer between the phenolic plate and the gear so the armature doesn't move. You should get the armature rewound. Talk to Bob Hannon (he wrote a couple of books on Lionel motors). Nice guy probably will cost about 50 or so plus shipping he does a great job. If you get it done when you install it you have to make sure that it doesn't shift yet is not too tight. One other thing to check is that the holes that the armature ends sit in are not too worn. If you need more help you can contact me. My email is in my profile

Jim

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