Lionel Dealer Display Layouts, Factory Layouts and Postwar Layouts

The golfer's name is Ed Dougherty, I believe.

Steve

If people can post photos of some of these layouts, some of us might be able to redraw the track plans to show here. Some old layouts show up on auction sites occasionally and I try to grab the pics while they are available.

I just picked up the Carp book last night on eBay for a really good price. 

I would be happy to scan & email anyone a track plan once I get the book - I would assume next week

Hi Folks, 

    Really love the moving cars, buses, and trucks on the highway.  I can hear some sort of squeaking, possibly from pulleys?  Does anyone know how that effect was achieved?  Bicycle chain under the road surface? -- did I read that somewhere before?  Thanks!

Take care, Joe.

True, and I thought about this after I posted. I think getting the various plans posted here (and not necessarily from the book) isn't going to be a problem. Between guys like the always helpful Ace, and some others, many of the plans have already appeared. 

Nice!  Darn, I didn't even think about eBay (slapping forehead).  I may take you up on your offer, Christopher.  

Another link to some good info on a D-264-

http://rztrains.com/D264_Details.htm

More from the web-

D-224 (Thanks DOC for ID)

D-264

D-289

D-289

Repro D-148

D-146

D-132

Lionel 10M  (is the number correct?)

Lionel D-???? (Need help in ID'ing)

Modified D-225

173S

Beat up D-190

D-106

D-133

6-3007 (Modern era)

D-290

That's all I can find.  Numbers verified by Carp's book.

CSXJOE  That first picture is a D224. Looks just like a friends of mine . He also has a D225.

You mean the elevated highway on the D-63 layout? I think its some sort of chain mechanism, although I'm not sure how they achieved the effect. I found the vid while surfing youtube.... Maybe somebody with more knowledge than I can post details about it?

The D-146 & D-190 would have to be my faves out of that group

Hi Pennsy Fan, 

    Thanks for info!  (I should have mentioned the D-63 layout in my question.)  Thanks for posting the links to all the videos.  I imagine that O scale die cast cars with AAA battery operated LED headlights would be a great effect on that moving highway.  I guess a heavy chain could handle the weight.  Those light-weight plastic cars would put much less stress on the mechanism as compared to several die cast vehicles.

Take care, Joe.

I've seen the injection molded plastic one from time to time at York and Allentown. I'm not sure what the item number is. They usually are not nearly as expensive as the postwar ones.

I concur! I believe he has turned to layouts as the focus of his collecting.

Hi Folks,

    I just found this about the elevated highway mechanism: http://cs.trains.com/ctt/f/95/t/209631.aspx  (2nd to last post)  Seems like a great technique!

Take care, Joe.

As far as the layout book is concerned, I E-mailed Roger Carp and he replied

"Right now, there are no plans to reprint or update
my book on Lionel displays."

I wonder how much of the book is actually in the public domain? I have the phone number for John at East Coast and I'll see if he bought the rights from Kalmbach when he bought the old Greenberg Book Store.

Trainman9:

I verified on the official U. S. copywrite webpage that the copywrite is still held by Kalmbach.

Yes, but did you check the US CopyRIGHT page?

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Guess John got some of the rights to re-print books but perhaps none related to Carp.

I've never read the book but it seems to me that the original display designs belonged to Lionel Corporation in its various re-incarnations. Without actually seeing the contents of the book itself it is fair to say that Carp simply compiled the information and unless he did some of the design work it is the original Lionel design that he used. I know that Ed Doughty was given mention as one of the contributors.

Does anyone know if Carp did any original work for the book other than just research.

Lastly, if this book is so popular why doesn't Kalmbach simply re-print it.

It arrived today !!

Here are a few more pics I found on my laptop HD - 

D-1601

D-291 - 

D-261 

D-224

D-222

D-148

D-133

Christopher,  are these all your sets or do you know who owns all these Lionel display sets.  Pretty neat layouts.  Nick

Nick - I wish these were mine!   Just photos I collected off the internet a while back for research as I was planning to build one

Christopher, you should have saw how that D-148 started out. It was in sad sad shape before the man who shot those photos refurbished it. If you're really looking to get to know how to build a Postwar Dealer tribute layout it might be worth your while to try and make friends with this gentleman. He has gone to great lengths to study correct mountain materials, find correct paints which are available in today's market, etc. His Ebay handle is HiRailFarms. Might be worth shooting him a message and letting him know what you are working on. 

Christopher, great pictures!!

One question, on one of the pictures showing a control panel there are two white switches with orange buttons.  Do you know what kind of switches they are and what accessories they operate?

Thanks

George

#91 Lionel adjustable circuit breaker  1957 - 1960  (at top center)

http://www.tandem-associates.c...el_trains_91_acc.htm

beat me to it Ace!

That's a good idea - I checked on eBay & there are 2 users with that name. Do you happen to know which one it is?

I asked Roger Carp since Kalmbach was not planning to re-issue the book, would they entertain the option of scanning it and offering it as an E-book. 

His reply was :

"I'm sorry but Kalmbach has not made that option available."

That is as far as I can go so good luck on E bay or-

He did have some copies available for sale.  You can contact him at his E-mail listed in CCT.

Christopher, Glad you got the Carp book.

If you would be willing to scan and email a couple of the track plans it would be greatly appreciated.

I'm interested in two of the 5x9 O gauge plans, D-147 and D-164.

Email is: jjdjsweet@comcast.net

Thank you!

Looked for but could not find his e-mail address. Did he say what he was selling copies for?

No problem.  I can scan them tomorrow at work & send them to you when I get home.

I'll probably use PDF format - does that work for you?

Trainman9:

Any new issue of CCT has it on the staff listing page.