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I have eight 027 42" path switches on my layout. I run both MTH DCS and Lionel Legacy. My Lionel Legacy engine loses all of its sound when it rolls over the switch. The engine has no problem going over it, but as soon as the tender's pick up rollers touch the switch all the sound is gone and the marker lights on the tender go out. The engine will keep on going and its headlight and marker lights will remain on, but the tender totally loses power. If someone could please help me with this problem I would greatly appreciate it.

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Originally Posted by Salvato17:
The engine is brand new and it has 2 pick up rollers on the tender, one on each truck. I've had this exact same problem happen with a conventional Lionel engine which also has 2 pick up rollers on it, one on each truck. The legacy engine is a K4 PRR #6-11338.

Sal,

 

Thanks for the item number, I would install a 9 volt battery in the tender and that should solve the problem, but Like Rod said above you can try and rotate the rollers or install a jumper wire.

 

 

Alex

Originally Posted by Salvato17:
Is it easy to install the 9 volt battery?

Yes, it's pretty easy. The instructions are on page 20 of your locomotive's manual. Just in case you don't have the manual at hand, here is the relevant page. 

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Edit: The manual page shown above is for the 6-11338 that you specified earlier. But this isn't a K4. Just to be sure that I've given you the right instructions, can you confirm exactly which locomotive that you have? The battery installation process should be the same though.

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Originally Posted by Salvato17:
I have the legacy prewar K4 #3667 I haven't looked through the manual completely yet just because I haven't had time. Thanks for the diagram I thinkit will help.

Thanks for the information. I've just looked at the on-line manual for 6-11327 (PRR K4) and strangely, this manual doesn't seem to mention the battery. But I'm pretty sure that it should have one, as every other Legacy locomotive I have encountered has one. The tender appears to have the same 4 screws needing to be removed to open it up, and you should then be able to see the battery holder and connector.

If anyone else here has a K4, perhaps they will be kind enough to confirm this?

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Actually, the problem is much deeper than a battery - it's a Legacy problem, with at least some locos. I have a Legacy USRA 2-6-6-2 that will lose its sound, and it won't come back

without a restart. I also have 2 earlier TMCC USRA 2-6-6-2's that run over the same track and which NEVER have that problem - and have NO batteries.

 

Even when a TMCC loco tender momentarily loses power and blips a little silence - very rare - it comes right back of its own accord.

Not so with the Legacy Mallet. The loco has a problem, but hopefully not a design flaw.

 

There a NO batteries in any of my (overly) numerous TMCC steam (or otherwise) locos; I do not use batteries, and if one comes in a loco, I remove it. They are alkaline batteries and will eventually leak. Plus, the battery was designed for Conventional running below 

8 volts to preserve the sound.

 

Except for the Legacy Mallet, I have no RS-death problems. I'm not debating, but in my actual observation, the battery can be a Band-Aid in a Command loco, but it's not a fix.

 

 

 

Originally Posted by D500:

Actually, the problem is much deeper than a battery - it's a Legacy problem, with at least some locos. I have a Legacy USRA 2-6-6-2 that will lose its sound, and it won't come back

without a restart. I also have 2 earlier TMCC USRA 2-6-6-2's that run over the same track and which NEVER have that problem - and have NO batteries.

 

Even when a TMCC loco tender momentarily loses power and blips a little silence - very rare - it comes right back of its own accord.

Not so with the Legacy Mallet. The loco has a problem, but hopefully not a design flaw.

 

There a NO batteries in any of my (overly) numerous TMCC steam (or otherwise) locos; I do not use batteries, and if one comes in a loco, I remove it. They are alkaline batteries and will eventually leak. Plus, the battery was designed for Conventional running below 

8 volts to preserve the sound.

 

Except for the Legacy Mallet, I have no RS-death problems. I'm not debating, but in my actual observation, the battery can be a Band-Aid in a Command loco, but it's not a fix.

 

 

 

Fitting a battery is not intended to be a 'fix'. It is recommended practice to prevent the sound system shutting down if there is a power interruption. 

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Originally Posted by Salvato17:
So I went to try and solve my problem and when I turned the engine in it was fine. As soon as it moved about two inches the legacy rail sounds stopped working and the tender would buzz a little bit here and there. I tried resetting it and shouting it off and restarting it but none of these have worked

This could be one of two things, your track might need to be cleaned, or the infrared senor's are misaligned between the engine and tender.

 

Alex

If you have not done so, try to eliminate the obvious: Clean track, check track power with a lighted car/caboose, clean wheels/pick ups on loco, if you can open the shell and check connectors and power harnesses, and so on, do it. If you have other Legacy locos that work well on the same track at the SAME time, then the loco has a problem...Good Luck!

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