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I can understand some of you being frustrated and I hear you trust me. Even with no figures the cost of this set was priced really well. $750 shipped and I received a beautiful E9 Legacy engine and 4 awesome looking passenger cars. Everything is working so far, no electrical, motor issues, paint problems, and all my passenger cars are perfect. If the only thing I have to do is install figures then so be it, it's worth the price of admission for me. This is my humble opinion and I'm sure it's not shared, but I try not to sweat the small stuff. Enjoy the set as it's absolutely stunning and worth it.

@BNSF-Matt posted:

I can understand some of you being frustrated and I hear you trust me. Even with no figures the cost of this set was priced really well. $750 shipped and I received a beautiful E9 Legacy engine and 4 awesome looking passenger cars. Everything is working so far, no electrical, motor issues, paint problems, and all my passenger cars are perfect. If the only thing I have to do is install figures then so be it, it's worth the price of admission for me. This is my humble opinion and I'm sure it's not shared, but I try not to sweat the small stuff. Enjoy the set as it's absolutely stunning and worth it.

I, actually, agree with your point of view. That's why I kept the set and contacted Lionel for the figures knowing it was going to be a DIY fix. I have , also, fixed two other small issues with loose trucks on the cars. The passenger figure varieties they sent are useless except for populating one car. As it stands, others have a better set than I do for the same price. So, another phone call on Monday.

@WinstonB posted:

I, actually, agree with your point of view. That's why I kept the set and contacted Lionel for the figures knowing it was going to be a DIY fix. I have , also, fixed two other small issues with loose trucks on the cars. The passenger figure varieties they sent are useless except for populating one car. As it stands, others have a better set than I do for the same price. So, another phone call on Monday.

I agree that 7 figures per car is really low, and like you I like to pack my cars full of travelers. Luckily I have two unopened Lionel passenger packs which I will be using to fill the cars along with the ones Lionel is sending.

I hope you can get more figures WinstonB.

Got some passengers headed my way👍🏻 I ran my set today and it is very impressive. The only issue I have is the alignment of the E unit rear coupler with the front coupler of the Combo car. The E unit coupler sets up higher than the Combo car, almost by half way. Anyone else notice this or have issues? On level track it didn’t matter. On a dip in the track the cars disconnected from the engine.

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@N&W 1218 posted:

Got some passengers headed my way👍🏻 I ran my set today and it is very impressive. The only issue I have is the alignment of the F unit rear coupler with the front coupler of the Combo car. The F unit coupler sets up higher than the Combo car, almost by half way. Anyone else notice this or have issues? On level track it didn’t matter. On a dip in the track the cars disconnected from the engine.

I don't have an issue with the F unit and Car 1, but Car 1 and Car 2 disconnect sometimes. I think it's the coupler on Car 1 so I took a bit of glue and locked it down for good.

Besides that it's a beautiful set and well worth the price.

After reading the postings concerned about the number of passengers that Lionel is sending folks, I went back and checked the actual number of passengers each car in my consist came with:

Car number one - 7 passengers

Car number two - 6 passengers

Car number three - 6 passengers

Car number four - 15 passengers

As a whole, looks like 7 is the expected number of passengers for this set.  Not sure how the observation managed to get so many more passengers.

I guess everyone wants to ride in the observation car.

Happy railroading,

Don

Further to DGJONES' comment regarding the number of people per car, I wonder if the length of the car has any bearing on the number that Lionel puts in each car?  The reason I ask is because I own a 6 car set of Lionel 15 inch N&W 'Powhatan Arrow'  Aluminum Streamlined cars (6-15333) and they also have seven (7) passenger figures per car - even in a combo car.  Consequently I'd be curious to know if Lionel has a policy as to the minimum number of figures - depending on whether the cars are 15, 18 or 21 inches in length.  🤔

Picked up my set from McCormicks hardware last week--no passengers--no big deal as I waited 47 years for someone to make this set because I was the guy who took on the job of painting&lettering the 4 cars and the Diesel that 1st pulled them which was a U 33C from the Delaware&Hudson.Did all painting outside on a siding track at the Lebanon NJ passenger station which was privately owned by Ross Rowland.So thanks to Lionel for making it,as for me having to put in some passengers---no problem.  Chet

Rory,yes Lionel did a super job on the colors.When I saw the Preamble pictures in the catalog the roofs looked white and told myself well I'll be repainting them.When I opened the box and saw that they were painted silver it was right on.I actually have a unopened gallon of the CON LUX steel guard Pacific blue that was left over,I also still have the pounce pattern for the lettering--hand lettered--no decals back then.  Thanks for the nice compliment.    Chet

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