Well at least the price of the PRR 4-4-0 is cheaper than the SMR D8...
The question will be will the Lionel Coach sets [a Different Model Coach] look as good as the SMR coach sets!
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Surefire posted:No more Eureka Palisades? Was excited for that one
The Eureka is a 3' Gauge locomotive.
Rusty
I took these pictures in 2003 of the York. The York is in New Freedom, PA just a short drive from the York fairgrounds.
http://www.steamintohistory.com/
Scott Smith
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I waited for this announcement before choosing to comment.
Detail appears to be nicely done on the passenger cars.
If HO can be made with sounds and smoke, then this could have.
At the very least, a smoke unit could have been added (they were 30 years ago) and Legacy instead of Railsounds 4, in the passenger car.
Good marketing....now you have to buy and additional product to get sound.
Thank you, Ryan, for posting that YouTube link.
OK; since they've got the base models/framework complete, how long before a repro of the loco in Back to the Future III?
No smoke and optional sound?
Soo Line posted:I waited for this announcement before choosing to comment.
Detail appears to be nicely done on the passenger cars.
If HO can be made with sounds and smoke, then this could have.
At the very least, a smoke unit could have been added (they were 30 years ago) and Legacy instead of Railsounds 4, in the passenger car.
Good marketing....now you have to buy and additional product to get sound.
Soo,
I’m with you! They should have “Smoke” & definitely Legacy Railsounds !!!
I'm not sure why anyone is surprised by the no sound and smoke situation. Lionelacknowledged this when they did the "soft" announcement at the TCA Museum during York week.
The adding of sound in a car is new, but I can't imagine anyone legitimately thought Lionel was going to change their mind and decide it was possible to put sound in the engines themselves when they said it would not happen only less than a month ago.
I may go for a set of the 2 main engines and a few cars. We'll see. The only negative with the adding of sounds in the car, is now one will not be interior detailed, since it obviously has to hide the electronics.
A big part of the attraction to items like this for me (Heritage Series - BFOC, John Bull, etc.) is the details on the pieces. Having one look out of place due to the sound electronics being hidden inside is a compromise I'll have to think about.
-Dave
The posting from Ryan above mentions sounds in the coaches (I would have to assume the CP AND UP sets. The Lionelstore descriptions do not mention any sounds at all, or at least I didn't see that.
Ryan Would you please verify if there is another set to be listed with sounds or if this is an oversight to be corrected.
Thanks
Gray Lackey
Soo Line posted:I waited for this announcement before choosing to comment.
Detail appears to be nicely done on the passenger cars.
If HO can be made with sounds and smoke, then this could have.
At the very least, a smoke unit could have been added (they were 30 years ago) and Legacy instead of Railsounds 4, in the passenger car.
Good marketing....now you have to buy and additional product to get sound.
I agree in general 
But speaker size means allot, and placing it in the passenger car will probably give better sound. However, I am not that interested in the passenger cars and would be more interested in period freight like flatcars and other types. That leaves the engine soundless. Sound could be included in a boxcar, perhaps the next catalog will have matching freight.
Dave
It's great that Lionel notified the OGR forum personally. They could have just treated the OGR market just like the rest of the market.
Good marketing to put the sound car as an add on. That way not everyone has to buy it.
It never hurts to be thankful.
Love the engines and cars and a great job by Lionel. I would love to have one but out of my price range.
For those getting them, good luck I think they will be a treasure to own.
Dave
I'm very excited for these models, they look beautiful! Now the decision is which one to buy! The lack of smoke and sounds I'm not surprised about since they are such small prototypes, most other 4-4-0s in O gauge are either oversized prototypes or repainted generals (other than SMR) so it's nice to see brand new accurate locos on the market!
Nice offerings for sure! On the fence due to $$. Debating getting something.
i don't have time to watch the video right now. How much $$ for the engines?
$1100 each. Available from dealers or Lionel. Don't know if dealers will cut you a discount. Rather doubtful 
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Interesting set. Does anyone know if the legacy system on these includes the IR sensor? I do not see any indication in the descriptions. It really would be nice to run them on a controlled layout.
Bachmann is offering in HO the UP and CP 4-4-0s probably over size but with DCC and I think sound for less than 1/4 the price of a Lionel O model. I know they are partly brass but Legacy electronic must be large compared to DCC.
Rusty Traque posted:Surefire posted:No more Eureka Palisades? Was excited for that one
The Eureka is a 3' Gauge locomotive.
Rusty
I'm well aware.
It was mentioned as an option in the TCA presentation.
