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I happen to take a bit of time last night studying the coaches very thoroughly and even contacted Ryan to get some more information on these particular set of coaches. I know that when I look at a new catalog I tend to try and see as much as I can, usually I look for build dates on cars because of what year I want to model in, but these I wanted to see the coach numbers.

I did a bunch of small research both on Lionel Dot Com, the catalog(online), and Strasburg's roster to see what cars were in fact being made. Well, the coaches are the same, that is I mean the 1990's and 2000's are the same set of coaches. Ryan confirmed this to me last night, as I didn't know that ahead of time, maybe some already knew, I don't know, just trying to put that out there in case someone doesn't want to order the same thing twice, so to speak.

Below is the list of product numbers, number of the cars, and names of the cars. You will note that the only difference other than the artwork change on the side of the cars(if you can see it clear enough), is that car #60 got it's name changed. All the rest of the cars are the same cars.

2227030 looks to be #62 Gobblers Knob and #59 Grasshopper Level(1990's)
2227040 looks to be #72 Mill Creek and #70 Cherry Crest(1990's).
2227050 looks to be #62 Gobblers Knob and #59 Grasshopper Level again, different art(2000's)?
2227060 looks to be #72 Mill Creek and #70 Cherry Crest again(2000's)
2227170 looks to be #60 Eshelman Run(was this renamed to Donald E. L. Hallock) and #96 William McFarlan(1990's).
2227180 looks to be #60 Donald E. L. Hallock and #96 William McFarlan(2000's).
If you want to order all the cars you can, just figured I would point this out to anyone who didn't know that is going to get the cars.
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Unfortunately (or maybe fortunately), Nicolas Smith did a custom run of #96 the "William McFarlan" and #72 Mill Creek was offered as an add-on car by MTH. That limited my options for the passenger cars down to just one of the two packs.

Lionel hinted during their show that open-air cars could be coming sometime in the future. I too would spring for a Hello Dolly as soon as it is offered.

Definintely would be interested in the open airs in the modern paint scheme (2000's). Not sure if I would like those as a 1 or 2 pack.

Currently, I have the MTH 3-pack plus the NS Exclusive Marion car.

Considering getting the 2-pack that has the combine in this catalog, but not as the prices that it is being offered at. I'm actually pretty happy they did away with that baggage car that MTH offered.

The big question: how will the paint stack up against MTH paint?

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Well, open air cars I don't think anyone has done, and that means new tooling needed. See how long that takes if they do decide to do those. Guessing that may be as well for other offerings we have not yet seen.

They could reuse most of the tooling from the current cars (Frame, roof, trucks, majority of the detail parts etc.)

Would just need a new body/ modify the current body. This quickens the turn around time.

@Prr7688 posted:

They could reuse most of the tooling from the current cars (Frame, roof, trucks, majority of the detail parts etc.)

Would just need a new body/ modify the current body. This quickens the turn around time.

Don't know. Ryan said that they went with what they could make. He also said he didn't want to make anything else using the toolings and painting it to one of the cars(like the Marian or other cars) that doesn't look like that. It would be interesting if they could use the toolings to do the open air cars, but I don't know if that would work for those.

I didn’t know there was one offered with the Cherry Crest name on it. Obviously, named after the Cherry Crest Adventure farm down the road. My fiancé and I love taking the kids there. We are planning to go again this year. I might have to order that one right after I cut off my arm and leg and sell them so I can pay for it!

Did any of the MTH cars have the Cherry Crest name? Although I doubt I will ever see those MTH cars on the secondary market. I do have one MTH Strasburg passenger car and I am concerned about the paint color matching.

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@Hudson J1e posted:

I didn’t know there was one offered with the Cherry Crest name on it. Obviously, named after the Cherry Crest Adventure farm down the road. My fiancé and I love taking the kids there. We are planning to go again this year. I might have to order that one right after I cut off my arm and leg and sell them so I can pay for it!

Did any of the MTH cars have the Cherry Crest name? Although I doubt I will ever see those MTH cars on the secondary market. I do have one MTH Strasburg passenger car and I am concerned about the paint color matching.

I don't know Phil, but I would suspect that it is a possibility since the tooling is the same. No idea where to look.

@Hudson J1e posted:

Do you guys think these cars will still have the Kadee coupler pads as the MTH versions did? And will the MTH 2 rail trucks fit these cars? There is always a possibility that Lionel will change stuff right? Just wondering.

Don't know. I looked at the catalog for these and the later ones in the catalog, no mention on either. Also popped on YouTube to review what they said about them on the Ryan & Dave show, no mention. I would suggest email Ryan or Dave to see if they can answer this. Either that or tag them here to see what they say if they reply.

@Hudson J1e posted:

I didn’t know there was one offered with the Cherry Crest name on it. Obviously, named after the Cherry Crest Adventure farm down the road. My fiancé and I love taking the kids there. We are planning to go again this year. I might have to order that one right after I cut off my arm and leg and sell them so I can pay for it!

Did any of the MTH cars have the Cherry Crest name? Although I doubt I will ever see those MTH cars on the secondary market. I do have one MTH Strasburg passenger car and I am concerned about the paint color matching.

Passenger car 70 is named "Cherry Crest" in real life and on the mth model.

@Conrail6358, @Dave Olson  hey Ryan, could you or Dave please answer the question on if these cars will have the Kadee couplers pads that @Hudson J1e asked above? I know that the catalog doesn't list them, and that you and Dave didn't mention them during the catalog review. I am guessing this could be a "We're looking into it" or "stay tuned" if it's not possible to answer at this time.

I know that it doesn't matter to me, but gotta cover all the bases, right? I'm sorry I didn't get a chance this week to pop this on sooner, just been busy Dave this week. Hopefully we'll hear sometime soon.

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