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Well I am excited to hear about this new product and quickly signed up to order one mainly because I have been looking for more Union Pacific Excursion cars.

But then I reread that it has Wifi Camera... Brilliant! But then I thought how does this work. Do I need the Lionel Wifi system too?

Does this download video directly to your phone? Or can I direct it to my laptop so I can store larger files?

Will this be color video with sound?

Track or battery power?

Does the camera point out the back or along the roof line markers?

So many questions...

I was born before personal computers were around. So I am at a disadvantage... I will still buy the car, but may never use the feature.

How will this device work?

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Railrunnin posted:

I like the car, with that said I wish it was an 18" model and could be purchased without the camera for a reasonable cost. And an Amtrak version if that is not asking too much.

I have seen the Amtrak one on a few occasions on the rear of the Lake Shore Limited.

Paul

 The Amtrak theater car "American View" is a converted viewliner sleeper that looks nothing like Lionel's model.  It's a completely different car that would take completely different tooling to make. 

 

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J Daddy posted:

Well I am excited to hear about this new product and quickly signed up to order one mainly because I have been looking for more Union Pacific Excursion cars.

Except the photo in the Lionel catalog does NOT match the UP Fox Valley (former CNW car).

Exactly. I won't be ordering one for THAT reason.

Neat idea for those who like gizmos.  Nothing wrong with that either.

Hot Water posted:
J Daddy posted:

Well I am excited to hear about this new product and quickly signed up to order one mainly because I have been looking for more Union Pacific Excursion cars.

Except the photo in the Lionel catalog does NOT match the UP Fox Valley (former CNW car).

Yeah, Lionel did take some artistic license here. AS ALWAYS, its tough to know what we are going to get. But I am not taking the risk of these being sold out.

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Gpritch posted:

Seems to be a neat idea, but at a MSRP of $349 seems astronomical!  I can't see myself reserving the funds for such.

I think the camera is focused out the back of the car to deliver the view out of the back of the train.

Looks like pricing is around 255.00. Similar, but slightly higher than a station sounds diner.

How big is the camera? seems there will be seats and people in the back of the car...

MartyE posted:

To me it appears that no additional hardware is needed other than an App from Apple or Android.  I suspect you will need a WiFi service in your home or wherever you will operate this.  A small simple wireless router would due.  Of course I haven't seen one but I doubt a Lionel LCS WiFi module is required.

Will you be able to direct the video to your lap top?

86TA355SR posted:

Curse you JDaddy!  You just gave me an idea...

Since it's plastic, it wouldn't be hard to modify to the correct UP version.  Some sheet plastic, filler, paint, decals and it would be done.

Now I have to think this over....

I figure best to get one out of the chute... and if its a dud, throw it on the Bay... not sure if they will get the roof line right with the rear markers... maybe that is where the camera is?

The basic problem is that each of these cars is home grown and started as some other form of car. The catalogue clearly states this is a model of the Conrail car. In that form it is reasonably accurate, as a Dark Future CSX car it is wrong. The car has been modified at least twice in that period. Nowhere does it state road specific detailing. Maybe Lionel will jump in and answer as to how much if at all the car will change between roadnames. There are many variables, size and placement of windows  on the sides, The placement and number of lights on the rear,(some above and below the picture window), the marker lights, the provision for the roll up screen if it has it, etc. With modern slide tooling some of this may be possible without incurring too most cost.  Not only that, the specific cars have been modified over time, so even if they try, depending on what variation of your specific car is, it may not be produced as that version.

Having said all of this, I'm in. Unless you go brass I doubt your going to see anybody else jump in and produce something similar.  Because it is plastic I plan on modifying it if it isn't close enough. My only request of Lionel would be to put the 6 wheel trucks from their full dome car on the NS version. It is the only prototype of the bunch riding on 6 wheel trucks. I realize they wouldn't be the correct trucks but a lot closer the the 4 wheel ones.    I'm not too big on the camera, but we'll see.  Enough for now.

Steve

I think its neat as hell.  Sure i always want the most accurate model I can get.  Do I wish they were cheaper sure. Price doesn't really bother me though.  i suspect around 250 street price.   Im personally pulling the trigger on a UP and CSX because i ordered both trains.  If the camera is crap then they still look to be neat observations.   I'd rather take the gamble than the risk of not pulling the trigger.      

L & N posted:

The basic problem is that each of these cars is home grown and started as some other form of car. The catalogue clearly states this is a model of the Conrail car. In that form it is reasonably accurate, as a Dark Future CSX car it is wrong. The car has been modified at least twice in that period. Nowhere does it state road specific detailing. Maybe Lionel will jump in and answer as to how much if at all the car will change between roadnames. There are many variables, size and placement of windows  on the sides, The placement and number of lights on the rear,(some above and below the picture window), the marker lights, the provision for the roll up screen if it has it, etc. With modern slide tooling some of this may be possible without incurring too most cost.  Not only that, the specific cars have been modified over time, so even if they try, depending on what variation of your specific car is, it may not be produced as that version.

Having said all of this, I'm in. Unless you go brass I doubt your going to see anybody else jump in and produce something similar.  Because it is plastic I plan on modifying it if it isn't close enough. My only request of Lionel would be to put the 6 wheel trucks from their full dome car on the NS version. It is the only prototype of the bunch riding on 6 wheel trucks. I realize they wouldn't be the correct trucks but a lot closer the the 4 wheel ones.    I'm not too big on the camera, but we'll see.  Enough for now.

Steve

Now let's see, the Conrail RR is shuttered up as of the 1999's.  Where as the NS and UP are contemporary and operating now.  And from the pictures posted above the NS and UP cars look a lot alike.  So why model them?!

If you are into the CSX that another thing.

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