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Rider Sandman posted:

I, too, have some on order from ‘16 in road names that aren’t in the current catalog. They were cataloged with all-metal trucks with hidden tabs and are $20 less MSRP. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. 

2016 prices were supposed to be honored.  I'll ask Ryan when I see him at the Amherst show.

superwarp1 posted:
Rider Sandman posted:

I, too, have some on order from ‘16 in road names that aren’t in the current catalog. They were cataloged with all-metal trucks with hidden tabs and are $20 less MSRP. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. 

2016 prices were supposed to be honored.  I'll ask Ryan when I see him at the Amherst show.

Gary, if you could double check with Ryan while at Amherst about the Central Vermont car, I sure would appreciate it, put my mind at ease. Thank you.  

Arthur posted:
superwarp1 posted:
Rider Sandman posted:

I, too, have some on order from ‘16 in road names that aren’t in the current catalog. They were cataloged with all-metal trucks with hidden tabs and are $20 less MSRP. It will be interesting to see how it all shakes out. 

2016 prices were supposed to be honored.  I'll ask Ryan when I see him at the Amherst show.

Gary, if you could double check with Ryan while at Amherst about the Central Vermont car, I sure would appreciate it, put my mind at ease. Thank you.  

Will do, I thought I had that one on pre order as well but I can’t find a receipt.

superwarp1 posted:

Talked to Ryan today,  there was no room  in the catalog to fit all the milk cars that were announced in 2016.  All that have been announced including the central VERMONT will be made. Expected early fall delivery 

Thanks for following up with Lionel.

If you think about it, it makes perfect sense NOT to re-catalog the previous ones .

Since they seem to be honoring the original pricing structure for the old ones, how would you handle that if you re-cataloged them and took new orders?  (you couldn't easily say it would be one price if you had it on order from 5 years ago, but more if you order one today). 

Much cleaner to just let the old orders roll in and then catalog new ones to go with them with new road numbers (at the new price point) if more of those particular  road names are warranted due to popularity.

-Dave

superwarp1 posted:

Talked to Ryan today,  there was no room  in the catalog to fit all the milk cars that were announced in 2016.  All that have been announced including the central VERMONT will be made. Expected early fall delivery 

Gary, thank you very much for getting confirmation that the Central Vermont will be produced. At this stage of the game, I'm not concerned about the price increase.

Art 

I was informed early on the tooling was lost, and switching manufactures to produce them. I believe that's all been sorted out. Now it seems to be logistics, waiting on Vermont, and the 4 Metca Run cars.

...I received this email on 11/12/2020

"Repeat after me ... IT'S ABOUT TIME
Yes, the long awaited Brookside and Riverside Milk Reefers are on their way.  See attached for a photo of the Brookside production sample.  The cars still have to make their way across the ocean; about a 6 week journey this time of year.  So, it looks like they'll arrive at the port right at the end of December.  As soon as they make their way to us, we'll ship them out right away.  They should be in your hands by the end of January.
Thanks so much for sticking with us.  Also coming in the same shipment is our Long Island and Pennsylvania Milk Reefers. "

Mine arrived yesterday.  I'll post a youtube review this weekend.   I will say a few things:

1. Graphics are spot on. the details on the cars are like the old ones

2.  The truck frames look cheaper, no longer sprung.  Most don't have the white lettering on them but I've seen the NYC version with the lettering.  I will say they are the best gliding trucks I've ever seen.  Very little friction, they beat out everything on my pike, Weaver, MTH, Older Lionel milks, AtlasO.  I placed one on a very slight grade and they start rolling down.  Very effortlessly.

3. Lobster claw couplers are an absolute JOKE.  Total junk, flimsy, won't couple with other cars, not at the right height.  I've not converted my older Milk cars due to the fact the trucks/couplers are the best Lionel ever came up with.   I don't have that dilemma with these.   Those claws are going.

@Paulee posted:

I was informed early on the tooling was lost, and switching manufactures to produce them. I believe that's all been sorted out. Now it seems to be logistics, waiting on Vermont, and the 4 Metca Run cars.

...I received this email on 11/12/2020

"Repeat after me ... IT'S ABOUT TIME
Yes, the long awaited Brookside and Riverside Milk Reefers are on their way.  See attached for a photo of the Brookside production sample.  The cars still have to make their way across the ocean; about a 6 week journey this time of year.  So, it looks like they'll arrive at the port right at the end of December.  As soon as they make their way to us, we'll ship them out right away.  They should be in your hands by the end of January.
Thanks so much for sticking with us.  Also coming in the same shipment is our Long Island and Pennsylvania Milk Reefers. "

The PRR and LIRR Milk Reefers are in the process of being packed up for shipping to those who ordered.  They should go out within the next week or two and be in your hands by the end of the month.  The Brookside and Riverside Milk Reefers are still in North Carolina awaiting their final QC inspection.

Stu

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Hello Superwarp1,

You wrote:  "Lobster claw couplers are an absolute JOKE.  Total junk, flimsy, won't couple with other cars, not at the right height. "  I agree.  I noticed the coupler discrepancy when my Central Vermont arrived a few days ago.

Unfortunately, when I pushed the CV to couple with a first run milk car, I broke the knuckle off on the older car.  Both cars had their knuckles open.  And then I stupidly broke another coupler when I tried to mate the CV with another first run milk car.  The coupler tolerances must be off ever so slightly that mating the current run of milk cars with the earlier runs is nearly impossible.  And risky as I found out.  I used Goo to reattach the broken knuckles.  Goo creates and incredibly strong bond.  Also, I ordered two replacement trucks from Lionel.  I hope that Lionel actually has the older trucks in stock.  If so, maybe, I should ordered another two for the new CV car.

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