The Dreyfus Hudson and the streamlined PRR K4 were products of George and Gary Kohs. The company was known as Fine Art Models but also as Marketing Corporation of America. The matching passenger cars were also sponsored by them. All of this was in conjunction with Richard Kughn at Lionel. Samhongsa had nothing to do with these pieces. At the time he was working exclusively in the three rail train production for Mike Wolf. The NYC Dreyfus and possibly the PRR K4 were available in two and three rail versions/.

The 3-rail NYC Dreyfuss Hudson was limited to a production of 750 units. Item# 6-18027 and 6-18029 with roller base# 6-23001

 

The 2-rail NYC Dreyfuss Hudson was limited to a production of 500 units. Item# 6-18026 with roller base# 6-23000

 

The 2-rail PRR K-4 Pacific was limited to a production of 300 units. Item# 6-18028 with roller base.

The roller base may be the same as the 2-rail Hudson. I am not sure about that fact.

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Benny

The Fine Arts/Smithsonian 20th Century Limited and Broadway Limited passenger cars shared components and tooling - unfortunately incorrectly for the Broadway.  While Pullman Standard produced both prototype trains in 1938 (they debuted on the same day!) there were differences in window arrangement.  One difference relates to the observation car floor plan.  To offer views of the Hudson river running westbound in the late afternoon the NYC ordered their cars with the rooms on the left and the aisle on the right.  On the PRR management had the aisle & room placement flipped so that their premium passengers had a view of the countryside unobstructed by trains running in the opposite direction.  The floor plan difference noticeably impacts window arrangement. The NYC models are correct - the PRR ones not so..  IMO the worst car in the Fine Arts Broadway set from a prototype modelling perspective is the lounge.  It is totally wrong in window arrangement - merely the NYC car in PRR paint and lettering. 

 

Smithsonian/Fine Arts never offered a diner for their 38 Broadway apparently as it would have entailed significant additional tooling.  The inaugural 38 Broadway diners were heavyweights modernized in the PRR's shops while the 20th's diners were new cars built by Pullman. 

 

PRR shortcomings aside, the models were beautifully made (and very heavy).

 

Ed Rappe

Ed Rappe           PRRT&HS 421

I hesitate to contradict Eric Lindgren's near encyclopedic knowledge of all things O scale, but I don't think Samhongsa built the LSC Dreyfuss Hudsons. I have owned one since new, along with nine of the matching 20th Century cars. The only builder's marks on mine are cast into the locomotive's gearbox and read S. J. Models - Korea.

 

On a different note, the  bellows on almost all of the diaphragms on my cars have deteriorated (read disintegrated) over the years and I'm in need of a material to make replacements with. The Lionel Smithsonian Lifetime Warranty is worthless, so I'd welcome any suggestions other owners or people familiar with these cars may have.

 

 

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