Ernie is this the proper tubing?
Don't get me wrong I love Lionel and have been collecting for over 40 years but I was frustrated on this one taking 3 or so years to get out to the public. This has happened with other accessories. I wound up building one 4 months ago using the same building as the one TAS used. It works great! I got a call about a month ago from a hobby shop in Georgia where I must have pre-ordered the Smoke Fluid Loader when it was up for pre-order. My cost was much cheaper then the new selling price so I bought it. I guess I am glad I haven't had it out of the box yet. I'll wait for Lionel to offer the hose. Also glad I visit this site often.
Why would they use a joined piece and not 1 solid line from fitting to fitting??? Made in China. Lol...
Lionel2341 posted:Ok here's the fix.
To make it easy to access the pump remove the back wall, it pops off easy. The culprit is the boom hose that breaks. The photos show how to repair the break. The hose coupler has to have a 1/8 ID to function correctly but not over 5/32 ID. The original Lionel hose will fit snugly into the coupler and provide a leak proof connection. The feed hose does not need to be repaired unless you want to do both. The fuel hos can be purchased at any hobby store that carries radio controlled cars or airplanes. Lionel is in the process of buying the correct hose. I'm sure they would send a piece upon request once they have it.
Sorry, but I have to ask a stupid question now.
Based on the pics, it looks like the curvature of each hose coming off the pump is still greatly hanging over the area where the wall will be when re-assembled.
If they are pushed in towards the inside of the house to allow the wall to be replaced, could it not cause the flow issues described again? (sorry if I read the other posts too fast, but it sounded like that was a big part of the issue. The fix looks like it can stop leakage, but will the restricted flow maybe still be an issue?)
-Dave
BFI66 posted:Ernie is this the proper tubing?
No Don't use Vinyl, You want to use "Glo Fuel Hose" Amazon has it.
Ernie
Dave45681 posted:Lionel2341 posted:Ok here's the fix.
To make it easy to access the pump remove the back wall, it pops off easy. The culprit is the boom hose that breaks. The photos show how to repair the break. The hose coupler has to have a 1/8 ID to function correctly but not over 5/32 ID. The original Lionel hose will fit snugly into the coupler and provide a leak proof connection. The feed hose does not need to be repaired unless you want to do both. The fuel hos can be purchased at any hobby store that carries radio controlled cars or airplanes. Lionel is in the process of buying the correct hose. I'm sure they would send a piece upon request once they have it.
Sorry, but I have to ask a stupid question now.
Based on the pics, it looks like the curvature of each hose coming off the pump is still greatly hanging over the area where the wall will be when re-assembled.
If they are pushed in towards the inside of the house to allow the wall to be replaced, could it not cause the flow issues described again? (sorry if I read the other posts too fast, but it sounded like that was a big part of the issue. The fix looks like it can stop leakage, but will the restricted flow maybe still be an issue?)
-Dave
No, it works fine, because you're not compressing the original hose as you would in the way it's installed by the factory.
Ernie
E-UNIT-79 posted:Why would they use a joined piece and not 1 solid line from fitting to fitting??? Made in China. Lol...
Lionel2341 posted:BFI66 posted:Ernie is this the proper tubing?
No Don't use Vinyl, You want to use "Glo Fuel Hose" Amazon has it.
Ernie
Dave45681 posted:Lionel2341 posted:Ok here's the fix.
To make it easy to access the pump remove the back wall, it pops off easy. The culprit is the boom hose that breaks. The photos show how to repair the break. The hose coupler has to have a 1/8 ID to function correctly but not over 5/32 ID. The original Lionel hose will fit snugly into the coupler and provide a leak proof connection. The feed hose does not need to be repaired unless you want to do both. The fuel hos can be purchased at any hobby store that carries radio controlled cars or airplanes. Lionel is in the process of buying the correct hose. I'm sure they would send a piece upon request once they have it.
Sorry, but I have to ask a stupid question now.
Based on the pics, it looks like the curvature of each hose coming off the pump is still greatly hanging over the area where the wall will be when re-assembled.
If they are pushed in towards the inside of the house to allow the wall to be replaced, could it not cause the flow issues described again? (sorry if I read the other posts too fast, but it sounded like that was a big part of the issue. The fix looks like it can stop leakage, but will the restricted flow maybe still be an issue?)
-Dave
No, it works fine, because you're not compressing the original hose as you would in the way it's installed by the factory.
Ernie
It looks ok, I just fixed it. You want to keep the splice short, but adequate on the hose to hose area. I found it best to clean the smoke fluid well off the hoses so they won't pop out when fitting the wall back. The wall does bend the hoses a bit, but not enough to kink or pop them out.
Still waiting on fluid seep...
Anybody know if the b-Gone Cleaner from Mega-Steam is safe on the plastic base paint?
Ernie sorry to be a pain in the butt. Could not find Glo fuel hose or Glo fuel tubing in a search on Amazon. Could you post a link so we buy the right tubing
Much appreciated
-Pete
BFI66 posted:Ernie sorry to be a pain in the butt. Could not find Glo fuel hose or Glo fuel tubing in a search on Amazon. Could you post a link so we buy the right tubing
Much appreciated
-Pete
No hobby store near by? BTW the hobby store here has small, medium, and large fuel tubing. Then they what looked like it might be bigger for fueling with a probe. That worked. Silicone hose.
Try searching for silicone fuel line or hose.
cjack posted:BFI66 posted:Ernie sorry to be a pain in the butt. Could not find Glo fuel hose or Glo fuel tubing in a search on Amazon. Could you post a link so we buy the right tubing
Much appreciated
-Pete
No hobby store near by? BTW the hobby store here has small, medium, and large fuel tubing. Then they what looked like it might be bigger for fueling with a probe. That worked. Silicone hose.
Try searching for silicone fuel line or hose.
Amazon is just easier for me. Nearest hobby shop is quite a trip from where I live.
Amazon just got a bit confusing. They had alot of different types of tubing. I am not into RC so I was not aware of all these types and noone really stated what type of tubing at the outset of this thread except to state 1/8 ID
I'll figure it out unless someone would like to help me out with a link. Thanks- Pete
Thank yoU
-Pete
Where do you get the couplings? A couple of 90 degree elbows would work nice with the wall so close to the pump.
My thoughts too. A couple of right angle 1/8 inch ID silicone elbows.
Too bad Frank Petit wasn't around to design this thing !!
I wouldn't blame the designer. I think the design is actually quite good. I would put the blame on a poor execution of the design. Generally it is well executed, but the missing screw holes and poor connection to the pump are not the designer's fault.
More overpriced....$&$&&$
Maybe it is in one of those threads or common sense to most of you...but, why is that switch even included with the accessory if it seems it must be slid in one certain direction for the thing to work properly? I can understand an "off" position...but, what for what is the "reverse" position used?
I probably missed that somewhere...I am prepared to be ridiculed and chastised.
