Specifically, what is the brand and size (I guess that's 5/32 inch ID) of Ernie's hose. And the barb Union...Ernie? The fact that it doesn't collapse much at the bend out of the pump is interesting to me...until I put a tool shed addition on the back wall that the hose can rest in .

Chuck TCA LCCA ARRL BMWMOA

cjack posted:

Specifically, what is the brand and size (I guess that's 5/32 inch ID) of Ernie's hose. And the barb Union...Ernie? The fact that it doesn't collapse much at the bend out of the pump is interesting to me...until I put a tool shed addition on the back wall that the hose can rest in .

There is more discussion on the tubes on page 2 of this thread. There are a couple of links to Amazon from Ernie.

Yea kind of waiting to find the best solution. I sent my smoke loader back a couple weeks ago with the leaking hose. Lionel sent me a new smoke loader.  Haven't put any fluid in it yet. Ran out of Lionel Fluid. Looking at it today and it almost looks like there is something on the hose at the pump. Like a glue or seal type something at the connection. So don't know if I should fill it up and let it rip or change the hose first, when I get some fluid.

Schnucks posted:
cjack posted:

Specifically, what is the brand and size (I guess that's 5/32 inch ID) of Ernie's hose. And the barb Union...Ernie? The fact that it doesn't collapse much at the bend out of the pump is interesting to me...until I put a tool shed addition on the back wall that the hose can rest in .

There is more discussion on the tubes on page 2 of this thread. There are a couple of links to Amazon from Ernie.

Thanks. Got 'em. Maybe they will not kink as much as mine did.

Chuck TCA LCCA ARRL BMWMOA

Gweedo posted:

Yea kind of waiting to find the best solution. I sent my smoke loader back a couple weeks ago with the leaking hose. Lionel sent me a new smoke loader.  Haven't put any fluid in it yet. Ran out of Lionel Fluid. Looking at it today and it almost looks like there is something on the hose at the pump. Like a glue or seal type something at the connection. So don't know if I should fill it up and let it rip or change the hose first, when I get some fluid.

Change the hose. The odds are pretty good that it will leak. The glue seems like it was super glue. I picked it all off after I cleaned up the unit.

Chuck TCA LCCA ARRL BMWMOA

cjack posted:
Gweedo posted:

Yea kind of waiting to find the best solution. I sent my smoke loader back a couple weeks ago with the leaking hose. Lionel sent me a new smoke loader.  Haven't put any fluid in it yet. Ran out of Lionel Fluid. Looking at it today and it almost looks like there is something on the hose at the pump. Like a glue or seal type something at the connection. So don't know if I should fill it up and let it rip or change the hose first, when I get some fluid.

Change the hose. The odds are pretty good that it will leak. The glue seems like it was super glue. I picked it all off after I cleaned up the unit.

Oh so the glue is nothing new. Thank you. I think I gonna go with 5/32 hose and the ties. Don't want to clean that mess up again.

cjack posted:

Still getting some fluid seep at the rear wall so I separated the two panels it's made of and the middle was totally saturated with smoke fluid. Must have creeped up by capillary action. Ack!

Not sure why you're still having problems, Chuck. I've been running the "Quick Fix" since I got home from York and found the problem. No leaks at all. You could also try the permanent fix using the full hose and barb. just a suggestion.

Ernie

 

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The fix works for me. No new leaks.

It's just that when it leaked out a half bottle of Lionel Premium Smoke Fluid a week ago, it seeped up into the back wall between the two layers the wall is made out of. Then that seeps back down onto the platform floor. So I peeled apart the wall and dried it, then put the wall back together. I also found fluid under the antenna plate that was glued to the inside of the wall. The leaky hose must have been touching the bottom of the antenna and capillary action occurred there too.

I probably should have asked for a new dry one, but I'm gaining on it. It looks good now...dry everywhere I think.

Chuck TCA LCCA ARRL BMWMOA

cjack posted:

The fix works for me. No new leaks.

It's just that when it leaked out a half bottle of Lionel Premium Smoke Fluid a week ago, it seeped up into the back wall between the two layers the wall is made out of. Then that seeps back down onto the platform floor. So I peeled apart the wall and dried it, then put the wall back together. I also found fluid under the antenna plate that was glued to the inside of the wall. The leaky hose must have been touching the bottom of the antenna and capillary action occurred there too.

I probably should have asked for a new dry one, but I'm gaining on it. It looks good now...dry everywhere I think.

Ok, Chuck, I thought you were still having a hose leak.

Ernie

 

Proud Member of the OGR Family, Designer of Unique TMCC Products, Lionel Collector and Operator, Lionel Beta Tester, Original Train-Ca-Teer Member

Lionel2341 posted:
cjack posted:

Still getting some fluid seep at the rear wall so I separated the two panels it's made of and the middle was totally saturated with smoke fluid. Must have creeped up by capillary action. Ack!

Not sure why you're still having problems, Chuck. I've been running the "Quick Fix" since I got home from York and found the problem. No leaks at all. You could also try the permanent fix using the full hose and barb. just a suggestion.

Ernie

 

Ernie,  Personally I like the 5/32 fix- but I cannot find a source for the barb reducer! Could I impose on you for source /purchase? Thanks in advance sir.

I got mine up and running today. Put the 1/8" Tygon Tubing I picked up last week. Ran a solid piece from the tank to the pump with a tyrap at each connection. Ran a solid piece from the pump to the outlet pipe with a tyrap at each connection. Put in some Lionel fluid primed it and all was good. Then  the fluid stopped. Thought maybe the hose was kinked. No there was a small piece of like plastic crumb stuck in the line at the outlet pipe. Took the hose off and flushed the lines. There must have been little bits of like plastic crumb like flash in the tank. Think I have it all flushed out. Working good now and should not have any more leaks.

Gweedo posted:

I got mine up and running today. Put the 1/8" Tygon Tubing I picked up last week. Ran a solid piece from the tank to the pump with a tyrap at each connection. Ran a solid piece from the pump to the outlet pipe with a tyrap at each connection. Put in some Lionel fluid primed it and all was good. Then  the fluid stopped. Thought maybe the hose was kinked. No there was a small piece of like plastic crumb stuck in the line at the outlet pipe. Took the hose off and flushed the lines. There must have been little bits of like plastic crumb like flash in the tank. Think I have it all flushed out. Working good now and should not have any more leaks.

Good Job, could have been a small piece of the old hose.

Ernie

Proud Member of the OGR Family, Designer of Unique TMCC Products, Lionel Collector and Operator, Lionel Beta Tester, Original Train-Ca-Teer Member

I found that the glue, I guess super glue, they used to try to cement the whittled down silicone hoses kind of crumbled and had to be cleaned out from around the pump nozzles. That's probably what it was.

Chuck TCA LCCA ARRL BMWMOA

nmtrains posted:
Lionel2341 posted:
cjack posted:

Still getting some fluid seep at the rear wall so I separated the two panels it's made of and the middle was totally saturated with smoke fluid. Must have creeped up by capillary action. Ack!

Not sure why you're still having problems, Chuck. I've been running the "Quick Fix" since I got home from York and found the problem. No leaks at all. You could also try the permanent fix using the full hose and barb. just a suggestion.

Ernie

 

Ernie,  Personally I like the 5/32 fix- but I cannot find a source for the barb reducer! Could I impose on you for source /purchase? Thanks in advance sir.

https://www.sullivanproducts.c...ponentsMainFrame.htm

Scroll down on this page and look for aluminum tubing adapter # 485

Ernie

 

Proud Member of the OGR Family, Designer of Unique TMCC Products, Lionel Collector and Operator, Lionel Beta Tester, Original Train-Ca-Teer Member

Just an FYI to everyone in case they have this same issue. I could not get the smoke loader to program at all using the acc button on my cab 1 as the smoke loader instructions indicate. Finally I tried the eng button then my assigned number and it works great!

Hello! I am new tot he forum, but not to O Gauge trains. I recently purchased the Lionel Legacy Smoke Fluid loader and have one issue. When installed, the fluid appears to be dispensing properly, the light works, and also shuts on and off with my CAB-2 remote. The issue is that the arm does not swing as directed in the instructions. I turn the red wheel as directed and get no motion. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks,

Brian

Brian K posted:

Hello! I am new tot he forum, but not to O Gauge trains. I recently purchased the Lionel Legacy Smoke Fluid loader and have one issue. When installed, the fluid appears to be dispensing properly, the light works, and also shuts on and off with my CAB-2 remote. The issue is that the arm does not swing as directed in the instructions. I turn the red wheel as directed and get no motion. Anyone have any ideas? Thanks,

Brian

We presume you have given it an id via the program/run switch, and, have added it to your Cab2 as an accessory.  Then you access it with this address. If needed here's a link to the manual. 

smoke fluid loader

 Ted

I had issues with my smoke fluid filler. The manual clearly states you can use either the Lionel quick connect or standard wiring. I soldered two wires to my track accessory wiring bus, as I did with all other such accessories. I programmed it to my Cab 2, but only some of the functions worked. It did not pump oil. I returned it to my dealer for an exchange but purchased the Lionel plug-in. With all three wires installed, the accessory functioned as advertised. Despite the manual clearly saying you can use a two wire standard connection, all functions are not available with this connection type.

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