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First off I’d like to say I’m a long time viewer of this forum. The knowledge on this forum has helped me out tremendously because it’s been a long time since I ran trains as a kid and boy did the hobby come a long way  super excited to be back. Switched over from conventional to TMCC/Legacy and soon to be MTH once the basement is complete. But again, thank you for the knowledge on this forum. 

 

So I decideed to take down my two looping main lines to allow for a single mainline that will encompass the whole basement. When the loops were set up I had the 072 switches (new style I’m assuming 5165&5166) doing the jobs of switching between loops. There are six switches in total. I bought the tubular track from menards. Ok but not great. The switches worked fantastically and of course I had each loop on a seperate electrical feed from the old school ZL transformer with two control knobs. Ran this system for about 8-10 months. Got bored with it and decided to do a single mainline around my whole basement to get a idea of what I want it to look like when I start to finish my basement. I want my basement to be an entertainment area that has TV, bar, couches and a train layout with a yard on one side of the basement and a loop the encircles the rest of the basement. Well enough of the backstory. I put the new layout together and it ran for a week with no hitches. Then this morning when I got home from work I ran the trains on the outer loop for about 10-15 mins before crossing over to turn my trains around. I’m running four legacy SD-90’s with about 10-15 freight cars of different sorts. They hit the switch and then after the first locomotive hit the next piece of track my layout shorted out. I have no idea what happened. First I though a section of track came loose and there was a derailment (frequent issue with the menards tubular track, again serviceable but only if you screw it down to wood which I will do if I can solve this issue and keep tubular), but there was no track separation anywhere. Next I took sections of the track apart to troubleshoot the short and foud no shorts in the tubular track when the 072 switches were all disconnected from the track. 2 of the 6 switches show continuity on the rails that are the two anti-derailment rails but the other four don’t. Did I short these? I read online that these newer switches are terrible compare md to the ones of the 1970’s and before. I want tubular but I’m leaning more and more toward Atlas. Any suggestions? 

 

PS the first photo with the passenger car on the crossover is the piece of track where the short occurred. Second photo kind of helps give an idea as to how it looks from the other side. 

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MD,

   I recommend you test and get your 072 switches working correctly, then insert them back into your layout and test run them again.  The newer 072 switches do have some problems, you may need to take them apart and see if any of the wiring has been damaged.  

I also recommend you Upgrade Track and Switches for your new Train Room layout, especially sense you already own Lionel Legacy. Invest in FasTack with FTCC Switches for problem free running, you will not be sorry.  You will be able to run your wireless low voltage plug and play FTCC Switches directly from the Legacy Cab2 HHRC, a way cool way to operate.  My recommendation is to get rid of the newer 072 switches, and eliminate your problems with them.

If you want to stay with the Tin Plate Track you can transition in and out of FTCC Switches and still control them with the Cab2 HHRC, this does work out very well.  I use the FT transition Track Pieces to accomplish this, when I use Tin Plate Conventional Track.  Once you see how nice this works, you will get rid of all your newer tubular 072 switches.

Have fun building!

PCRR/Dave

Construction on the Pine Creek Train Room Continues!

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PCR,

Thank You for the reply. I was worried I would have to switch away from the tubular. I don’t want a layout of tubular andanotjer brand since this will be a semi permanent layout. Guess I’ll tear into them this weekend. Might be time to invest in a newer track system like atlas since their switches have tmcc in them I think. I wanted fasttrack at first until I saw it in operation. Looks kind of cheesy

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