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Hello, I recently bought a Lionel Winner set with a boxcab electric 1010 locomotive and two 1011 passenger cars. All the couplers were missing.  I haven't been able to find any clear pictures showing the original couplers and how they attached underneath.  Apparently there were at least 2 designs, mine is the one that lacks the additional support bracket towards the axles. I bought some reproduction Winner/ Lionel Jr. tab and slot couplers but they don't work well and I can't figure out how they would have attached to make them function reliably. I'm guessing the design was bad and that it was revised to include the additional support bracket.

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Well, this mystery remains unsolved. Harry Henning got back to me and offered 150-26, a tab and slot coupler like what I've already tried. If indeed this was the coupler used, I'm surprised Lionel would sell it that way. On the other hand, I understand that the Winner line was a very cheap depression era product, so who knows. Maybe that's why all of the couplers were missing and I found remnants of rope left on the axles.

It's a nice little set and it reminds me of the Chicago Aurora & Elgin that used to run in the suburbs of Chicago, where I live. I'll probably fabricate something, but I prefer to keep it original.

Any suggestions?20230220_21172320230220_211743

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Well, this mystery remains unsolved. Harry Henning got back to me and offered 150-26, a tab and slot coupler like what I've already tried. If indeed this was the coupler used, I'm surprised Lionel would sell it that way. On the other hand, I understand that the Winner line was a very cheap depression era product, so who knows. Maybe that's why all of the couplers were missing and I found remnants of rope left on the axles.

It's a nice little set and it reminds me of the Chicago Aurora & Elgin that used to run in the suburbs of Chicago, where I live. I'll probably fabricate something, but I prefer to keep it original.

Any suggestions?20230220_21172320230220_211743

I don't have any original pieces left to photo for you but recall the couplers were a u-shape that once inserted were flattened out to hold them in. Hard to come by unless you locate a junker

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Well, this mystery remains unsolved. Harry Henning got back to me and offered 150-26, a tab and slot coupler like what I've already tried. If indeed this was the coupler used, I'm surprised Lionel would sell it that way. On the other hand, I understand that the Winner line was a very cheap depression era product, so who knows. Maybe that's why all of the couplers were missing and I found remnants of rope left on the axles.

It's a nice little set and it reminds me of the Chicago Aurora & Elgin that used to run in the suburbs of Chicago, where I live. I'll probably fabricate something, but I prefer to keep it original.

Any suggestions?20230220_21172320230220_211743


I believe you’re looking for these.

https://hennings-trains.shopli...el-hook-coupler.html

Be very careful bending the little tinplate tab on the car body to get them in place.  You want to move it as little as possible.

Once the coupler is in place, you may need to adjust the tab down to secure the coupler from coming out.  Fine needle nose pliers with a long, thin beak are your friend here.

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@Ives1122 posted:


I believe you’re looking for these.

https://hennings-trains.shopli...el-hook-coupler.html

Be very careful bending the little tinplate tab on the car body to get them in place.  You want to move it as little as possible.

Once the coupler is in place, you may need to adjust the tab down to secure the coupler from coming out.  Fine needle nose pliers with a long, thin beak are your friend here.

Thank you for your suggestion!  I will investigate it.  Best regards,  Max

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